EU To Attack Bible? America is already anti-Christian

Sierra Times ^ | Dorothy Anne Seese

[Sir Gawain]

EU To Attack Bible?
America is already anti-Christian
By Dorothy Anne Seese
Published 04. 24. 02 at 23:23 Sierra Time

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Under dateline of April 24, 2002, the BBC's online news site reports that the EU could ban the Old Testament on grounds of racism, and criminalize it under the EU's anti-racism laws, according to a British law expert.

Why should that surprise anyone? The Bible has been under constant attack in America since 1962, with the foundations for such attack going as far back as Supreme Court case opinions rendered in the 1940's. However, the major thrust of the attacks against Christianity, the Bible, and America's Christian heritage were begun in 1962 with the Supreme Court's decision in Engle v. Vitale and again in 1963 in Murray v. Curlett, the Madalyn Murray O'Hair case which brought Mrs. O'Hair into national awareness for her atheism and assault against Christian beliefs.

The European Union is the face of the New World Order and as such, it will oppose any concept of God as historically revealed in the book we know as the Holy Bible. The events recorded in the Bible date back to the dawn of creation, but were written down beginning some 3,500 years ago, by some 40 authors. In order to make one world governance succeed, it is necessary to establish one world religion and destroy the historical faith that has continued in succession for so many millenia. It is an assault against Judaism as well, since the first 39 books of what Christians call the Bible are the Jewish Scriptures, including the Torah.

However, as far as anyone has reported, Islamic teaching are still being conducted at taxpayer expense in Los Angeles public schools and perhaps elsewhere.

The American Civil Liberties Union is not protesting the teaching of Islam, but it immediately files suit if Christian doctrines are mentioned in schools, or, for that matter, even if one prays out a Christian-sounding prayer out loud.

For a continent that was once definitively Christian in profession if not in practice, Europe is home to many cathedrals and churches. Church attendance is now approximately 10 percent of the population of the European nations, or even less. The once powerful Church of England, of which the Queen is titular head, is now almost a historical relic. It is hard to imagine that England was home to one of the most scholarly theologians and dramatic preachers of the 19th century, Charles Haddon Spurgeon. It is equally incomprehensible to realize that missionary David Livingstone came from England to go into Africa to evangelize the natives.

England now exports rock stars and has since the Beatles.

Europe and America tend to run together, and they are hurtling toward the globalism that so far transcends commerce as to almost make the commercial aspect of no real import. The globalist agenda is to create a vehicle for world domination, including thought, word and deed of the peoples of the earth, and the very number of them that their elite consider appropriate to a "sustainable earth."

Islam, having blasted its way around the Middle East since the 7th century A.D. is now blasting its way onto the world scene as the rising religion of the age, but it is only a convenient tool of the globalists to bring down Judaism and Christianity ... the globalists will have a bland, new age religion of no particular import other than personal "spirituality" without definition other than that which each person feels is appropriate to his or her lifestyle.

Monotheistic religions are on their way out under the UN, EU, and the leaders behind these organizations, including the United States. It matters not what the people want, the governments of the world are now detached from the people. We've seen the United States government grow increasingly detached from the will of the people over the past four decades until our government is now an oligarcy of the wealthy rather than a body of elected servants. "Of, by and for the people" is history ... it's also toast.

Christian persecution, and continued Jewish persecution, will continue and in due time, the prophecies of the Bible will be fulfilled -- the agents of the beast and the false prophet will find themselves enveloped in the final battle of the ages and their own eternal condemnation.

The EU may make the Bible illegal, but they can never make it untrue.

The same applies to the US government and its liberal Supreme Court.

Anticipating just such attacks throughout the ages, the Lord admonished:

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (KJV)

Good advice -- from the only truly reliable Source of all wisdom and power.

[Sir Gawain]

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[Portnoy]

I smell a folklore...hopefully.

[JoeMomma]

America is anti-Christian just because our governmental bodies don't go to great lengths to endorse Christianity as the 'unofficial' religion of the State? This is news to me. I had no trouble going to church both times yesterday. Our local school system doesn't teach Bible classes, but that doesn't have any effect on my ability to study the Bible at home. The local courthouse doesn't display the Ten Commandments, but I'm fine with that since my ability to worship remains intact. I'm quite happy with a government that doesn't allow others (ie- Pat "The Gambler" Robertson) to force their religion on me.

Anyone who thinks that just because Christianity isn't endorsed by governmental bodies that Christianity is under attack by the gummint needs to be inducted into the Tin Foil Hat club.

[Icthus]

"..but they can never make it untrue.."

[A. Pole]

America is anti-Christian just because our governmental bodies don't go to great lengths to endorse Christianity as the 'unofficial' religion of the State?

What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?

[Victoria Delsoul]

The EU may make the Bible illegal, but they can never make it untrue.

[moyden]

A liberal dream come true!

Every liberal is a thug.

[anguish]

What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?

Are you saying that the support came because of the parties religion?

[irgbar-man]

Under dateline of April 24, 2002, the BBC's online news site reports that the EU could ban the Old Testament on grounds of racism, and criminalize it under the EU's anti-racism laws, according to a British law expert.

Comment by an unnamed talking-head "Brit law expert." Speculation. Good rant, though.

[A. Pole]

What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?

Are you saying that the support came because of the parties religion?

Good question. I wonder myself what is the real attitude of the establishment. But puting aside the question of motivation, the truth is that American (and European policy) in Kosovo and Bosnia was/is anti-Christian and pro-Muslim as a matter of facts and not of declared intentions. "Look at what they do and not at what they say".

[smith288]

The article took clear cut examples such as state funded teaching of Islam in California. Also, no Christian sounding prayer in school regardless if its to ones self. These are individual rights the state is taking away from us. Its not the lack of endorsemento f Christianity from the govt, its the outright endorsement of atheism as the supreme rule of thought.

[timestax]

bttt

[DittoJed2]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1947000/1947370.stm

Not folklore. It is on their website.

BBC News
Wednesday, 24 April, 2002, 09:17 GMT 10:17 UK EU law 'could ban' Biggles Biggles was a fictional flying ace People who distribute stories about fictional children's hero Biggles or the Old Testament could be criminalised under a European anti-racism law, a top Law Lord has suggested. Lord Scott told peers that a proposed framework directive for the harmonisation of EU member states' laws against racism and xenophobia "would almost certainly cover Biggles". "It would probably cover the distribution of the Old Testament as well," he said. "I don't know what the government's reaction to this particular proposal will be. "I imagine it will be a mixture of horror and laughter." Terror fears Dashing World War I flying ace James Bigglesworth, nicknamed Biggles was created by Captain WE Johns in the 1930s and spawned dozens of adventure novels, but its seemingly racist terms offended many. Lord Scott was speaking during a debate on proposals for a Europe-wide arrest warrant. He said: "If any member state creates offences on these lines ... and prescribes three years' imprisonment as a possible penalty, we in this country would be expected to extradite the accused under a European arrest warrant." Categories of offences such as racism or xenophobia needed to be made "much more specific". Plans for a Europe-wide arrest warrant were agreed by ministers in the wake of the 11 September US terror attacks for introduction by 2004. Although the UK hopes for an earlier arrangement with five other member states. Extradition fear According to Lord Scott, the European Commission's proposals for an offence included "public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material containing expressions of racism or xenophobia". "So distribution of, for example, literature containing expressions of belief in race, colour, national origins etc as a factor determining aversion to individuals or groups would be a criminal offence," Lord Scott argued. "And extradition of a person accused of the offence could be sought under the arrest warrant." Former Euro-MP Lord Kingsland QC, for the Tories, said: "I believe the EU is making a serious mistake in extending the terms of this arrest warrant beyond the issue of terrorism." Home Office minister Lord Rooker, replying to the debate, confirmed that a draft Extradition Bill would be introduced before the summer recess in August, ahead of full legislation next session. Lord Rooker, who did not comment on Lord Scott's comments about Biggles and the Bible, assured peers: "We are not inventing extradition." The Bill aimed to speed up extradition procedures within the EU.

[DittoJed2]

FYI

[Redshift]

"Every liberal is a thug." The lack of thought behind this defies easy description. I'd imagine some liberals are thugs, just as are some centrists and conservatives. To claim that "every" liberal is this way is nothing more than a way to hoodwink yourself; a way to make it psychologically easier to hate an ill-defined group of people. It makes you feel completely self-righteous, doesn't it? However, it does nothing to further thoughtful political discourse.

[Caipirabob]

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[RAT Patrol]

In those same government schools Christians are called bigots for not embracing homosexuality. That is a fact! I don't have any problem at all with leaving religion out of the government schools. But while it is not endorsed I expect it to also not be condemned.

Liberals control the schools. It is nothing but re-education camp.

[MarkWar]

>"I believe the EU is making a serious mistake in extending the terms of this arrest warrant beyond the issue of terrorism."

[sarcasm]

Imagine that!

An effort is being made to take measures put in place to battle terrorism and extend them to cover every-day social functioning...

Gee. Who could ever have imagined such a thing occurring?

Not to worry. Such a thing might happen in Europe, but IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE.

Right?!

[/sarcasm off]

Mark W.

[ohioman]

When Moyden called every Liberal a thug, it really hid a soft spot with you. Kind of close to home huh.

[Polonius]

Calling a still overwhelmingly Christian nation "anti-Christian" is a stretch to say the least. I certainly agree that there's a strong anti-Christian sentiment among certain elites, but they are far from a majority. Also, as JoeMomma pointed out, it's a far cry to say that a lack of governmental promotion of Christianity makes America "anti-Christian." Trying to turn Christians into yet another put-upon victim group will only backfire, especially when the worst instances of discrimination Christians can point to are a lack of prayer in classrooms and religious displays on public property.

[Dimensio]

Also, no Christian sounding prayer in school regardless if its to ones self.

When did this happen and when was it held up in court?

[jrewingjr]

Scary. The news of the real world is eerily sounding more and more like straight out the Left Behind series. The same incremental anti-Christian steps, both in rhetoric and legal action. I read all of the LB books up to and including The Mark last summer and would recommend them.

[skeeter]

However, it does nothing to further thoughtful political discourse.

Besides providing a truthful basis for such discourse, you may be right.

[JoeMomma]

The article took clear cut examples such as state funded teaching of Islam in California.

And I agree that's wrong. Just as wrong as state funded teaching of Christianity.

Also, no Christian sounding prayer in school regardless if its to ones self.

That's not true. The state cannot tell someone not to pray a private prayer to one's self. If you have evidence to the contrary, please tell me. I'm interested.

[JoeMomma]

What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?

It's wrong. Just because I don't support state-sanctioned Christianity doesn't mean that I would support state-sanctioned other religions.

[let freedom sing]

EU= evil union

[smith288]

You didnt hear the story about the kindergarden girl who was pulled from school for praying to herself in school? how about this one?

Here

[Michael2001]

The EU may make the Bible illegal, but they can never make it untrue.

Precisely

[Michael2001]

What do you think about support for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians?

It is now coming out that some of the plotters of 9/11 came from Bosnia and Kosovo. They thanked us with a bang

[LarryLied]

Say hi to the gang down at the ADL, the ACLU and PFAW for us.

[JoeMomma]

Say hi to the gang down at the ADL, the ACLU and PFAW for us.

Ahhh ... when you don't have an intelligent rebuttal, hurl insults. Seems to be your m.o.

Quite difficult to do since I'm not a member of either three of the organizations. About the only membership I have in any organized group is the NRA. The NRA is good, right?

Ensuring freedom of religion is a conservative ideal, my friend. Endorsing a particular religion is just plain Taliban-esque, ,but not at all conservative.

[LarryLied]

Barry W. Lynn uses the "I'm protecting freedom of relgion" schtick too. Anyone who knows the history of religion in America knows it is a crock. You and Barry have as much interest in protecting freedom of religion as the ACLU does in upholding the constitution.

[JoeMomma]

You and Barry have as much interest in protecting freedom of religion

I'm not sure who Barry Lynn is, but you are not qualified to make that assessment of me. I know what I stand for -- a conservative value called freedom of religion.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

PINGINGS

[anniegetyourgun]

America is only anti-Christian in that most Americans do not serve Christ. Sure, a majority claim to be Christians, but are so in name only and/or do not follow the essential tenets of the historic Christian faith.