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Welcome to Photopoint.com -- We REALLY want to see how dumb you are!
Email to "members" ^ | May 2, 2002 | Photopoint.com

Posted on 05/02/2002 6:22:50 PM PDT by Howlin

I received the following email today, did you?


NOTE: This email contains information about your PhotoPoint account:

Account Name: XXXXXXXXXX
Account Password: XXXXXX

This is a one time email, and you will not be put on any mailing lists.

As of December 14th, 2001, Pantellic Software, creators, owners, and operators of PhotoPoint.com were forced to cease operations due to financial reasons. PhotoPoint Corp USA similarly entered Assignment for the Benefit of Creditors in July of 2001.

There are currently no plans to bring PhotoPoint.com back online, although we are always interested in discussions from interested business partners for doing so.

CD Ordering Now Available ------------------------- Due to the demand, as a means for members to get copies of their photos, we have arranged for them to be able to purchase CD's of their PhotoPoint accounts. As Pantellic is insolvent, this is being done by a third party.

This offer a short term offer, and will only be extended until May 31st, 2002. All orders must be placed by this time (and payment received by June 15th at the latest). The cost of a CD is $24.95 USD plus $9.95 USD shipping and handling, and includes all of your photos, captions, and guestbook entries. (This is half the price of archive CD's avaialble from other photo sharing sites.)

CD's may be ordered by visiting http://www.photopoint.com

Your account information is as follows: Account Name: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX Account Password: XXXXXXXXX Number of Photos: 320 Size of Account: 12733 K

You may go directly to ordering a CD for your "XXXXXXXX@XXXXXX" account by going to this link:

http://cd.photopoint.com/perl/order.pl?email=XXXXXX@XXXXXX com&password=XXXXXXX&step=2

If this link does not work for you, just visit http://www.photopoint.com and follow directions for ordering the CD, and enter your email address and password above when prompted.

We appreciate your patience and understanding, and hope that this option is useful to people who may have neglected to keep their original copies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: photos; scams; suckers
I don't know about YOU guys, but I'll be ordering MINE today..........NOT!

Imagine, paying to get my OWN pictures back!!!!

1 posted on 05/02/2002 6:22:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RonDog; Snow Bunny; Seeking the truth; LukeFReeman; Hank Rearden; Bloody Sam Roberts...
FYI.
2 posted on 05/02/2002 6:25:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sungirl; michigander; snowfox; SamAdams76
Lookie here.
3 posted on 05/02/2002 6:26:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I can't fathom this, but some people didn't save a copy of their photos. This is probably the only way they have of getting them back.

(I burn CDs.) :0)

4 posted on 05/02/2002 6:26:44 PM PDT by IVote2
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To: Howlin
I also had an account with them. They can keep the CD.
5 posted on 05/02/2002 6:27:08 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: undergroundwarrior; Bush2000
Fyi.
6 posted on 05/02/2002 6:29:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: IVote2
I cannot believe it either. I had an account, but have the copies!
7 posted on 05/02/2002 6:29:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BeforeISleep
I'd like my money back.
8 posted on 05/02/2002 6:30:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Don't we all...Luckily, I backed up all of my pictures too.
9 posted on 05/02/2002 6:31:14 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Howlin
ROTFLMAO

A BIG NOT is right Howlin !!!!!!

10 posted on 05/02/2002 6:31:43 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Did you get this email? I nearly died laughing! Pay for my OWN pictures? If they were decent people, even though they aren't giving our money back, they'd open the site for a day or two and let people get their OWN pictures off the damn server!
11 posted on 05/02/2002 6:32:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Imagine, paying to get my OWN pictures back!!!!

Imagine, paying to have someone use their storage to store your pictures. Un-American.

12 posted on 05/02/2002 6:35:38 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: IVote2
(I burn CDs.)

Is that some sort of hi-tech digital hómage to "Farenheit 451"?

14 posted on 05/02/2002 6:57:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Howlin
Wow, I just sent them a flaming email back telling them where to put their offer. I come here, and I've already been pinged to this thread. LOL!

I still have all my photos, I just wanted the captions. I used Photopoint more as an inventory system for ebay. When Photopoint went down, my inventory was gone... Oh well, I know better.

15 posted on 05/02/2002 6:58:08 PM PDT by abner
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To: Howlin,CincinnatiKid ,jd792 ,dixie sass,chesty puller,antivenom,muggs ,Grendelgrey ,GRRRRR ,uscon
Flatline bump
16 posted on 05/02/2002 6:59:42 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Howlin
Every internet account comes with 5 to 20 megs of free storage and will give you a URL for it all. Why not use that?
17 posted on 05/02/2002 7:02:09 PM PDT by Musket
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To: Musket; hole_n_one
Well, I was too dumb to figure it out, until hole_n_one explained it to me. Now I do!
18 posted on 05/02/2002 7:34:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Musket
(I cannot believe how easy it is with that FT thingy!)
19 posted on 05/02/2002 7:35:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
LOL!
20 posted on 05/02/2002 7:35:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; abner; Snow Bunny; BeforeISleep; Registered; Uncle Sausage; Merovingian; Billie...

Comments overhaerd from a loyal PhotoPoint customer: "Why, yes!
As a matter of fact, I **do** use PhotoPoint to host my online images.
Why do you ask?"

21 posted on 05/02/2002 7:43:16 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
LOL. That's just how I think they feel about us!

"Dear Photopoint: Yes, I'll have another!"

22 posted on 05/02/2002 7:46:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RonDog
Thank you, I feel much better now! ROTFL&L!
23 posted on 05/02/2002 7:50:26 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: RonDog
ROTFL.....Good one RonDog.
24 posted on 05/02/2002 7:50:45 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: jackbill
Imagine, paying to have someone use their storage to store your pictures. Un-American.

They charged people for storage, people paid, then they went out of business. Their customers were stiffed and now they have to pay again for a CD of their own pictures.

25 posted on 05/02/2002 7:50:54 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RonDog
Whoops!
overhaerd SHOULD have been overheard

26 posted on 05/02/2002 7:56:29 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Howlin
Hey Howlin...I paid my $19.95, because they wouldn't let me access my pictures which originally they let me post for free....so as soon as I paid...the website went down...What's up with these lunatics!
27 posted on 05/02/2002 8:17:51 PM PDT by KLT
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To: Howlin
At least you got an e-mail. They never contacted me about my photos. Luckily I was wise enought to back up all my photos on CD's anyway.

If you haven't invested in a CD burner, I highly recomend you do so now. They're not gonna get any cheaper than they are.

28 posted on 05/02/2002 8:24:24 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: jackbill
These dirtbags asked me to pay for the space. I did and then they closed shop. A mini Enron in the making.

Foll me once shame on me, These sh*theads aren't getting another dime from me.

29 posted on 05/02/2002 8:29:03 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Howlin
My guess is that they're providing this option just in case anyone had any material which they'd uploaded to the site and of which they had no other copy. I don't think anyone is planning on making any real money here, since few people have been unfortunate enough to have the only copy of their pictures on Photopoint. I don't know how many customers photopoint had, but I wouldn't be surprised if the number of customers taking them up on the offer is between 1 and 100. I don't know how much it costs to run those oodles-of-gigs servers, but if 100 people accept Photopoint's offer, that's $3500; if only 10 people do, that's $350.

Presumably, anyone who does accept Photopoint's offer will prefer payment of $35 to the irretrievable loss of the pictures. While it's possible if not likely that the third-party handling the CD mailing will turn some profit, I think this action is motivated more by a desire to avoid totally hosing anyone who was relying on having their pictures stored than a desire to make big money.

30 posted on 05/02/2002 11:07:07 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Howlin
I thought this sounded sort of familiar.
31 posted on 05/03/2002 4:41:34 AM PDT by michigander
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To: Howlin
I fart in Photopoint's general direction!
32 posted on 05/03/2002 5:06:00 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Howlin
They have to be joking.
33 posted on 05/03/2002 5:14:55 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Howlin
There's a wealth of information about this stuff at Hotwire's(Wired Magazine) Webmonkey in the how-to library. Here is a direct link to FTPing with CuteFTP, you need CuteFTP or something similar to upload your files to your ISP's server. I've found this to be much more dependable than PhotoPoint. Not that I've ever actually used PhotoPoint, but I've sure seen their logo enough times when their customers files won't load into a page.

And visit your ISP's homepage for info on how to activate your FREE personal web space. You'll be glad you did.

P.S. Hotwire's got the best HTML Cheatsheet!

34 posted on 05/03/2002 7:23:01 AM PDT by Musket
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To: Howlin
Wellll...IF you don't buy them back...does that mean THEY own them?
35 posted on 05/03/2002 8:04:34 AM PDT by antivenom
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To: Howlin
I would think that you have enough users here to start a class-action lawsuit.
36 posted on 05/03/2002 8:12:23 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Howlin
BTW, I love the nearly $10 dollar shipping and handling charge. Hehehe. This people could write the book on how to scam people.
37 posted on 05/03/2002 8:17:47 AM PDT by Registered
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To: KLT
Hey Howlin...I paid my $19.95, because they wouldn't let me access my pictures which originally they let me post for free....so as soon as I paid...the website went down...What's up with these lunatics!

Plain and simple, they were ripping you off

38 posted on 05/03/2002 8:49:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
What really upsets me, is that I hear the owner of Photopoint is a FloriDUH Freeper....Now what's up with that?
39 posted on 05/03/2002 8:59:22 AM PDT by KLT
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To: KLT
Where'd you here that?
40 posted on 05/03/2002 9:05:10 AM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
Duh...hear.
41 posted on 05/03/2002 9:05:21 AM PDT by Registered
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To: KLT
Publik edgycated.
42 posted on 05/03/2002 9:05:58 AM PDT by Registered
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To: KLT; Registered; HKDragon2; Howlin
What really upsets me, is that I hear the owner of Photopoint is a FloriDUH Freeper....Now what's up with that?
Not sure if Dale Gass (CEO of the now-defunct Pantellic Software) visits this forum, but I know that Michael R. Tomkins (reporter for The Imaging Resource) does, at times, using the screen name hkdragon2.

See also, from articles about the PhotoPoint mess written by hkdragon2:

PhotoPoint: Deadline extended!
By Michael R. Tomkins, The Imaging Resource
(Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 22:34 ET)
...The deadline for ordering backups of images (which include the captions and guest book entries) has been extended from April 30th through to May 31st 2002, due to problems getting emails out to members advising them of the chance to get their albums back. This is, according to the site, the last chance to retrieve those lost memories - orders must be received by May 31st and paid for by June 15th. If you have been hesitating, think now - you haven't much longer to decide!
Thanks to RonDog / Free Republic for this item! - more...
and

PhotoPoint: Archive CD's finally available! (UPDATED)
By Michael R. Tomkins, The Imaging Resource
(Friday, April 5, 2002 - 14:20 ET)

...UPDATED 2002-04-07 16:19ET: Dale Gass, CEO of the now-defunct Pantellic Software (and an understandably difficult man to get hold of recently - we're sure he's flooded with emails), replied with comments on this news item. He firstly noted that the ordering page was ambiguous and has been updated. The cost of backing up an account onto CD is per account, and not per CD required - our item has been updated in several places to reflect this fact, and our thanks to Dale for clarifying this.

Dale also noted that one of the reasons for the significantly higher shipping cost than found from other online photo-sharing sites is due to the fact that all CDs are being sent via trackeable shipping methods:
"Regarding the shipping pricing; we decided to go with a *trackable* option, to avoid any confusion about lost or missing CD's; we thought this important as it is likely a bit of a "last chance" for people to get their photos, and we wanted to make sure everyone had them in their hands.

Unfortunately, shipping costs from Canada to the US are rather high; to California is $14, shipping Canada Post Expedited. The other shipping options are only slightly less expensive, and don't allow for tracking or receipt confirmation. The volume of expected orders just isn't high enough for us to get any significant pricing break.

Similarly, our inquiries into pricing for shipping to Europe were similarly shocking; close to $25 to ship to England, similar pricing for Germany, in the two examples we priced out. So far, we've only had a single inquiry from overseas; we will do what it takes to find a way to help out folks overseas. It depends upon the level of interest, and the sampling of countries represented, to determine how we proceed, though. I think it's safe to say we will find some way for international members to get their photos back. Judging from the relatively small demand, it will probably be handled on a case-by-case basis."
- more...

43 posted on 05/03/2002 12:12:53 PM PDT by RonDog
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