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Human Rights Watch: No massacre in Jenin camp
Jerusalem Post ^ | 5/3/02 | Jerusalem Post

Posted on 05/03/2002 6:05:14 AM PDT by tomahawk

Human Rights Watch: No massacre in Jenin camp

By The Jerusalem Post Internet Staff

IDF troops did not carry out a massacre in the Jenin refugee camp, the international Human Rights Watch organization has announced following it's investigation of the recent events.

According to the HRW report, Palestinian gunmen endangered the lives of local residents by preparing and setting explosive devices inside the refugee camp.

Armed Palestinians also utilized the camp area in order to plan terror attacks, the report determined.

During interviews with Human Rights Watch researchers, local Palestinian residents of the refugee camp did not claim IDF carried out a massacre....

The organization's chief investigator told Israel Radio that Human Rights Watch intends to publish a separate report on Palestinian suicide attacks on Israeli civilian targets - a phenomenon that he termed a crime against humanity.

The report will also investigate the involvement of sovereign nations in the preparation and execution of Palestinian suicide attacks.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jenin; palestinianlies
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To: tomahawk
I've got Mr. Milosevic on line 3 ... he wants to know if you can rustle up some sympathy for his war crimes since news of his genocide was so greatly exaggerated in advance of Clinton's "moral war".

He seems to think Serbia's actions should have fallen under the same veil of "internal civil conflict into which we cannot possibly intervene" which covers nations like Rwanda and Israel (for wholly different reasons, of course).

41 posted on 05/03/2002 11:43:00 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Brytani
Finally the truth comes out - 1 Palestinian killed is a massacre

Perhaps he was taking a page from Israel and the United States and looking at the human life "in proportion".

42 posted on 05/03/2002 11:46:13 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Brytani
Finally the truth comes out -

1 Palestinian killed is a massacre, one innocent Jew killed by a homicide bomber is a reason to celebrate.

May I nominate this for quote of the day?

43 posted on 05/03/2002 11:59:26 AM PDT by SKempis
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To: Askel5
Are you serious?
44 posted on 05/03/2002 12:01:05 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Here's a thread about the 'Keystone Kops Funeral': Funeral.

I'd love to see that film with the bereaved, grieving Palis in the funeral procession, then them running away alongside the "dear departed".

BTW, isn't it interesting how the pali-loving demonrats of a few months ago are now falling over themselves to prolaim support for Israel? They must be getting some interesting polling results these days.

Yes, and one of the big 'ifs' of our times will be "what if Al Gore had won the election?" That must give at least some Democrats pause.

45 posted on 05/03/2002 12:09:42 PM PDT by xJones
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To: SKempis
He hung up ... got tired of waiting.

Handling his own defense, you know. The US's attempts to broker deals with war criminals to help del Ponte coast to a World Court Cup Victory has got him hopping.

46 posted on 05/03/2002 12:19:19 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: xJones
(@#%!!&), that is, the funeral link should be: here
47 posted on 05/03/2002 12:21:21 PM PDT by xJones
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To: tomahawk
bump
48 posted on 05/03/2002 12:24:03 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SKempis
Sorry ... thought for sure you must be talking about Milosevic.

Looking at lives "in proportion"? Absolutely.

How have you missed that bit of salesmanship by which it's driven home to Americans the "real toll" of suicide bombings in Israel as if the horror that is indiscriminately terrorizing and taking of innocent, civilian human lives weren't sufficiently appalling on its face?

I believe one Israeli life counts for somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple thousand American lives. If I'm not mistaken, there was an article on the phenomenon recently.

It's a trial-attorney sort of world, I'm afraid.

49 posted on 05/03/2002 12:36:12 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: xJones
Thanks for the link.

Yes, and one of the big 'ifs' of our times will be "what if Al Gore had won the election?" That must give at least some Democrats pause.

Too horrible to contemplate...

50 posted on 05/03/2002 1:26:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: tomahawk
My favorite is how the 'refugee camp' has running water, television, electricity, parking spaces for cars, etc.
51 posted on 05/03/2002 1:45:23 PM PDT by finnman69
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To: Askel5
I believe one Israeli life counts for somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple thousand American lives. If I'm not mistaken, there was an article on the phenomenon recently.

Isn't that an unjustly cynical interpretation and condemnation of what they have said? I have yet to see such a suggestion at all. All I have seen is reference to population numbers not value of individual lives lost.

Referencing the proportional impact of x number of lives lost between countries is a very far cry from saying one life is worth more than another. The first is a legitimate statement on the impact upon a population, the latter is immoral.

One has to be paranoid at best to disregard face-value and extrapolate such a sinister message from a legitimate statistical observation.

52 posted on 05/03/2002 2:56:37 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: SKempis
The first is a legitimate statement on the impact upon a population, the latter is immoral.

Perhaps when we make a practice of doing it for all nations the victims of terrorists or massacre, this statistical practice the press employs for Israel won't jump out at me so.

To be honest, I can't recall a foreign tragedy's ever being "brought home" thus though it might have made for some impressive statistics if we'd applied this legitimate statistical analysis to places like Rwanda, Iraq or Tibet.

I'll see if I can't find you the article which got my attention. Regards.

53 posted on 05/03/2002 3:07:06 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: SKempis
I'd be honored.
54 posted on 05/03/2002 3:41:43 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: Askel5
The fact we don't hear it about all nations is probably more reflective of the smallness of the population (compared to Iraq or Tibet...) in addition to current events bringing to fore the parallels, comparisons, and contrasts between America's war on terorism and Israel's.
55 posted on 05/03/2002 3:42:41 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: tomahawk
That's because only a certain select group of countries are allowed to do whatever they want to civilians and others (e.g. Israel) have to pamper and comfort them (even if they are harbouring terrorists or are terrorists themselves) and risk losing hundreds of soldiers in the process. The world is not a just place.
56 posted on 05/03/2002 5:11:38 PM PDT by Turk2
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To: tomahawk
During interviews with Human Rights Watch researchers, local Palestinian residents of the refugee camp did not claim IDF carried out a massacre....

The organization's chief investigator told Israel Radio that Human Rights Watch intends to publish a separate report on Palestinian suicide attacks on Israeli civilian targets - a phenomenon that he termed a crime against humanity.

The report will also investigate the involvement of sovereign nations in the preparation and execution of Palestinian suicide attacks.

It's about freaking time! When did they all of this sudden decide to be fair and balanced?

57 posted on 05/03/2002 6:47:34 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: tomahawk
does this includes the bodies that the Palis' dug up from the local graveyards and dumped there to inflate the 'body count'??
58 posted on 05/03/2002 8:12:42 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: The Electrician
My husband saw some film of two Palestinians carrying what was purported to be a corpse of one of the victims in a blanket. They stumbled and the "corpse" fell, and ...stood up!
59 posted on 05/04/2002 12:24:32 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Redcloak
Thank you for posting the orginal Human Rights Watch report, which the Jerusalem Post seems to think credible, yet omits the parts which reflect against Israel.

"Human Rights Watch also documented cases in which Israeli troops used Palestinian civilians as human shields, a practice prohibited under international humanitarian law. In one case, IDF soldiers forced eight civilians to shield them by making them stand on a balcony while the soldiers fired at Palestinian gunmen. Kamal Tawalba and his fourteen-year-old son were among them. Tawalba described how the soldiers kept them for three hours in the line of fire, and used his and his son's shoulders to rest their rifles as they fired."

To me this is a new despicable low for the IDF thugs. This is something a criminal might do to effect a get-away. Do our "allies" in the IDF truly reflect our Western, democratic values?

60 posted on 05/04/2002 1:43:47 AM PDT by Tarakotchi
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