The Left is first to ban guns from everyone else and first to use guns when everyone else isn't listening to them. I trust that your nation will overcome this tragedy, however.
Posted on 05/07/2002 1:35:04 AM PDT by knighthawk
Hilversum/The Hague - Pim Fortuyn is dead. The 54 year old politician was killed in a cowardly way just after 18.00 hour in front of the studio from Radio 3 at the Mediapark in Hilversum.
Fortuyn, that was threahened that same day earleir, was hit bi at least three bullets in the head, neck and chest. Inspite of efforts to reanimate him by the medics.
The cabinet yesterday met in an emergency meeting. Agreed was upon that today togehter with the leaders of List Pim Fortuyn the decision will be made wether the elections will continu May 15. "Everyone wil understand that we want to take in account the thoughts of his party, before taking a desicion," according a emotioned minister-president Wim Kok around midnight yesterday.
The suspected killer of Fortuyn was arrested 5 minutes after the shooting. It is a 33 year old white Dutch man who lived in Harderwijk. The man is known with the securityservices who see him as extreme left.
The man, who's house has been searched, directly requested after his arrest for the Dutch lawyer mr. Bakker-Schut.
According minister Korthal (Justice) it is most probeble he acted alone. Although this is not certain. The exact motives are yet unknown.
The suspect, who was indentified by two withnesses as being the shooter, does not want to comment the assassination.
Also it is unknown how he managed to enter the since Septemer 11 secured Mediapark.
A 15 nab string investigation team has started an investigation. According the police no threats were reported in advance.
Police did place all party-leaders under strickt policesecurity.
Elections
Politic The Hague reacted shocked. Second Chamber chairman Van Nieuwhoven announced yesterday that the electioncampaigns until May 15 will be cancelled.
It is still not clear wether the elections, at which Fortuyn was set to cause a landslide in the Dutch politics, will still go on May 15.
Minister Jorritsma does not approve of that: "I feel that it would be bizar."
Prior to the emergancy meeting minister Pronk spoke of the "first political murder of the Dutch democracy".
Fortuyn's biggest opponent Melkert (PvdA, socialists) spoke of a "disgusting deed and a low in the democracy in the Netherlands". Just like all other parties, the PvdA has cancelled it's electioncampaign. "Eveything has changed now. We must think about wether to continu the elections."
Also there were shocked reactions outside of the Netherlands. British prime-minister Blair says England mourns. "What feeling politicians manage to draw, the only place to take action against them is the voting-cabin."
The lawyer of Fortuyn, Oscar Hammerstein, spoke immidiatly after the murder of his client his anger about the fact police never took serious threats against Fortuyn. According to him Fortuyn was threathened often during the last months. "We do not know from what side those threats came. That the cowards never talked about," according Hammerstein.
Henk Westbroek, who founded Livable Netherlands, the former party of Pim Foruyn, thinks a political climate was created in which crazy people do such things. He pointed towards PvdA leader Melkert and Green Left leader Rosenmoller.
That same thought is also found at the List Pim Fortuyn. A spokesman said that the assassination was caused by the demonization of the left parties.
The left made it clear: speak out against us and you will be demonized. Continue and you will be killed.
I hope elections will go one and I will still vote for Fortuyn. He may be dead, but his actions will be kept alive!
The Left is first to ban guns from everyone else and first to use guns when everyone else isn't listening to them. I trust that your nation will overcome this tragedy, however.
I hope Pim's List triumphs.
God save the Dutch.
Can you tell this underinformed American what office Pym Fortuyn was running for? Do you think he will get a large sympathy vote, even in death? And are his party's chances of winning seats in the upcoming election improved or impaired by this tragic event? Also, we Americans find it difficult to understand how the Dutch government could postpone elections. Is this legal in Holland, or does it have a precedent in Dutch history? Thanks, and of course my sympathies to your country's political future. I don't know enough about Mr. Fortuyn to support him outright, but his movement seems overdue, and headed in the right direction.
What could be more galling than to switch on a public access tv channel, see some modern-day Mexican Zapatistas, with their guns on display and their faces hidden by bandanas, being interviewed by admiring leftists... then see these same leftists, in the next segment, call for gun control in America?
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The reason they want to ban guns is because they want helpless victims.
She also said her circle thinks the May 15 elections will probably have to be postponed.
The left may have overplayed its hand this time.
This happened in America back last fall in New York City. If I recall right, the elections for mayor were postponed b/c of September 11.
I suppose everyone understands that Fortuyn, even though he didn't have all that good a prospect of winning (like Le Pen in France), nevertheless he had to be accorded the chance to make his case to the voters.
This takes us back to the bad old days, when anarchists murdered the presidents of both France and the United States.
Words cannot express the profound sorrow I feel today at the assassination of Pim Fortuyn. He was incredibly courageous to take a stand against the political ills of the Netherlands. Despite the death threats, he continued to speak the truth.
I do not know why I have been moved as deeply as I have been by this tragic event. But there are moments in history when a man comes on the scene whose life is so vibrant, that even an assassins bullet cannot bring it to an end. Somehow I do not think the memory of Pim Fortuyn will fade with the next glaring headline of tomorrow's newspaper.
It is time for significant political change in the Netherlands. If that now happens, then his life was not in vain.
Yesterday a report came out that said he would become the biggest party. I know I will still vote for him, and many others also will. He may be dead, but we will not give up the fight. Others will take over.
The elections cannot be stopped with normal laws, only with a special law.
There is a meeting as we speak wether the elections will be postponed.
I will keep you people informed. Gotta go, I'm at work now.
But the List Fortuyn said they wanted the elections to go on May 15! Fortuyn started a motion that cannot be stopped.
I suspect the Dutch will get through this OK, and maybe some good will come of it.
It was the primary election, not the big race, and it was just as well. Nobody would have voted after 9:00 that morning.
Eco leaflets, bullets at Dutch murder suspect home
AMSTERDAM, May 7 (Reuters) - The suspected killer of Dutch maverick politician Pim Fortuyn had environmentalist propaganda and ammunition at his home, public prosecutors said on Tuesday.
But chief public prosecutor Theo Hofstee said the man suspected of gunning down the gay anti-immigration Fortuyn on Monday had shed no light on the motive for the attack.
"The suspect has made no statement," Hofstee told reporters, adding that the 32-year-old man had no criminal record but that bullets were found at his home that matched the calibre of casings found at the murder scene.
Hofstee said a search on Monday night of the man's home in the central town of Harderwijk -- in the Netherlands' staunchly religious "Bible belt" -- "found that he was in possession of material that indicates involvement in environmental activism," though he said he made no link between that and the murder.
He also said police found a car used by the suspect in Hilversum, where Fortuyn was shot after giving a radio interview, and that the unnamed suspect was calm and "in possession of his senses" when he was arrested shortly after the killing.
The man, whom police had said previously was 33, will make an initial court appearance in Amsterdam on Wednesday, where prosecutors will ask for permission to extend his custody.
05/07/02 06:30 ET
Your country will survive, just as ours has survived assassinations and attempted assassinations of our presidents, acts of terror and inept, incompetent and corrupt leadership. It's the strength of the people that will get your country through this.
The leftists (socialists/Marxists/Communists/Maoists) are killers. This is what Whitaker Chambers came to understand. This is what any in America who have been paying attention understand. But this is what (of course) is ignored by the Marxist Media Puppets all over the world. TO SAY THAT THE LEFT IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT TOLERATE OPPOSITION OR THREATS TO THEIR POWER - TO THE POINT THAT THEY WILL KILL THEIR OPPONENTS WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY - IS SOMETHING WE WILL NEVER EVER HERE THE ACADEMICS OR ENTERTAINMENT OR GOVERNMENTAL LOCKSTEP LEFTISTS SAY OUT LOUD.
We must persist in getting this truth out there.
Leftists are, (when all is said an done and when power threats become too great), KILLERS!
ELF-like, or Earth-First, or whatever they call themselves in Europe.
(If you really want to get the willies, I typed "EarthFirst" before I did a google search.)
Vijftig boeren en milieuactivisten uit binnen- en buitenland hebben vanochtend een tweetal gentech proefvelden in Groningen bezocht. Bij het tweede veld plantten zij biologische aardappels, zaden en dna-vogelverschrikkers. Ondertussen werd in Den Haag gedemonstreerd bij de Canadese ambassade, omdat Canada in de biodiversiteitsonderhandelingen rechten van inheemse volken wil ondermijnen. [Meer]
Massale betoging voor PalestinaRond de 30.000 demonstranten kwamen samen in Amsterdam om de terugtrekking van Israel van de Westbank te eisen.
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Although it is unquestionably true that the demonization the leftists engage in is improper and probably fomented a violent climate, the killer is of course ultimately responsible for his own actions. But leftists never want to take responsibility for their actions; that's why they're leftists.
This is a sad situation all around.
I hope everyone gets this message from the leftist haters. The left whipped up mass hysteria in France and the Netherlands and murder is the end result. The perp is an eviro-green activist also. Save the whales and murder your political opponents!
All of the nuts seem to manage to find common cause with each other.
It looks to me like anyone connected to the animal and earth activists just might be terrorists,terrorists in waiting or at the least terrorist supporters.
The perfect example of their big lie is JFK's assassination, perpetrated solely by that Marxist pipsqueak Oswald. The revisionists have succeeded in brainwashing millions of gullible fools that it wasn't the left but actually the right/Mafia/Nixon/miltary industrial complex.
At this moment, the left in Europe is feverishly looking for an excuse for Fortuyn's blood on their hands. Finding none, a lie will be created.
That was the thought I was going to post. I don't recall ever having seen the term "far left" used by the media before.
Conservatives are routinely labelled as "right-wing" or "far right" by the media. Those on the extreme left, on the other hand, are labelled "activists" or "progressive" but the word "left" is never mentioned.
Remember the coup attempt by the die-hard Communists in the last days of the Soviet Union? At that time, when even the liberal news media had to finally admit that the USSR was, indeed, an Evil Empire, the problem was easily solved. The news media and the liberals simply labelled those die-hard Communists as "a group of right wing military and KGB leaders".
I wouldn't mind having a couple of million immigrants like him land on our shores.
I'd bet that Fortuyn would want them to go on.
How often does one read the term "extreme left" in the media? It's usually reserved for the right wing, but I guess this separates the killer from all the other 'decent' left wingers.
Also it is unknown how he managed to enter the since Septemer 11 secured Mediapark.
That would be interesting to find out, particularly as at least some in the security services knew about his political views.
[Your comment] The left made it clear: speak out against us and you will be demonized. Continue and you will be killed.
That's very alarming and seems to be the opinion of others like Henk Westbroek. Is this perceived by the general populace? Also, I add my sympathies with everyone else's. Just maybe Fortuyn's murder will will act as a catalyst on outraged citizens and we'll see it in the voting results (whenever the election is held).
Of course - revealing his motive wouldn't benefit Reuters' agenda.
They did see fit to report the shooter lived in Netherland's 'bible belt', though.
The Democratic primary for mayor was scheduled for September 11, but all polling places were closed and the primary postponed due to the attack.
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