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To: Lorianne
The bottom line is it take TWO people to create a new person. Both are responsible for either preventing conception or standing up and being accountable for the consequences. You either believe in personal responsibility or you don't.

I see no argument with your principles. Now how do we place them into operation? Further, how do we keep people who can't support their kids from further procreation? They have a right to have sex - they do not have a right to create lives they will not support. How do we stop them?

21 posted on 05/09/2002 11:18:20 AM PDT by jimt
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To: jimt
I see no argument with your principles. Now how do we place them into operation? Further, how do we keep people who can't support their kids from further procreation? They have a right to have sex - they do not have a right to create lives they will not support. How do we stop them?

I don't see a magic bullet. I'm not willing to go in for totalitarian measures like China and I don't see such measures being supported in America. In practice that means decent people who believe in equal justice are over a barrel so to speak. But we're not totally helpless.

I think we have to think longer term. First step IMO is to acknowledge in our everyday speech and mores that parents have obligations to kids they co-create. Never, ever verbally in any way shape or form give the impression we don't believe in personal responsibility. Don't cut anyone any slack whatsoever. This is really important because what we have to do is change the mindset that people in the US have come to believe that no matter the problem, it's always the other persons's fault. Pass the buck is our real national passtime, not baseball.

The next thing I would do is go into the schools and pound it into our kids that if they create a new life they WILL BE held accountable. Both parents, 50/50. No exceptions. I would NOT indoctrinate our young people to believe that inequity is OK. Making others pay (especially young children) for your part mistakes will NOT be tolerated. To me this is non-negotiable. If you create a kid, you create automatic obligations for yourself for at least the next 18 YEARS! This point cannot be made often enough in our schools and it has to be equal, 50/50 down the line obligation. The last thing we need to be teaching children is how to pass the buck onto someone else.

And we need to follow through with this, make sure both boys and girls know that society holds them accountable for their actions. There should be zero doubt about how serious we are about this. We could start by making kids accountable for all their actions from Kindergarden on up, not just OOW pro-creation. This sets the tone early on and conditions kids to believe they will be held personally accountable.

Basically, I take a stance similar to Bush's stance on terrorism. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. There are NO nuetral parties. IMO, making excuses for bad behavior and letting people off with zero accountability makes one part of the problem.
23 posted on 05/09/2002 12:22:00 PM PDT by Lorianne
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