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Israel knows how to use Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer
TIME mag | May 2002 | TIME mag..... Matt Rees

Posted on 05/11/2002 1:26:31 AM PDT by dennisw

 

 

http://www.time.com/time/2002/jenin/story.html#

 

INSIDE THE CAMP (Jenin)
The Palestinian fighters had made their own preparations. Booby traps had been laid in the streets of both the camp and the town, ready to be triggered if an Israeli foot or vehicle snagged a tripwire. Some of the bombs were huge – as much as 250 lbs. of explosives, compared with the 25 lbs. a typical suicide bomber uses. On Day 2 of the battle, when the town had been secured but the fight in the camp was just beginning, a huge Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer rolled along a three-quarter-mile stretch of the main street to clear booby traps. An Israeli engineering-corps officer logged 124 separate explosions set off by the vehicle. In the camp, the explosive charges were even more densely packed, and tunnels had been dug between houses so that Palestinian fighters could move around without exposing themselves on the street. Many noncombatants had fled; Israeli intelligence believes half the camp's residents had left before the troops arrived, and that by the third day of the battle 90% of the residents were gone. Even so, that left as many as 1,300 people inside the camp. According to leaders of Islamic Jihad interviewed by Time, around 100 of those left were armed fighters...............

The street is a new one, carved by a huge bulldozer out of what was once a narrow alley. It leads to a place where gunmen and tanks forged a new, terrifying chapter in the long wars of the Middle East. The alley was just three feet wide before the Israeli army sent its heavily armored Caterpillar D-9 down what is now a rutted track; as you walk along it, up a mild gradient toward Hospital Street, your feet raise little puffs of dust from the rubble of what were once concrete homes. The path is covered with the litter of war — broken sea-green ceramic tiles, a punctured cooking-gas............

 

 

 

 


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Very good use of bulldozer to clear anti tank mines etc. Same will be done in Gaza when the time comes.

NOTE: Israel takes the D-9 and adds armor to it and is also (I am guessing) reinforcing the blade.

1 posted on 05/11/2002 1:26:31 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: monkeyshine, ipaq2000, Lent, veronica, Sabramerican, beowolf, Nachum, BenF, angelo, boston_libert
PING!!!!

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2 posted on 05/11/2002 1:29:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
They should go in with tracked Backhoes.

One with a 300 gallon bucket at the end of the boom.
You can knock down buildings and pick them up afterward

. Put two snipers in the 3/4 inch steel bucket...you can elevate them 50 to 60 feet above street level.

3 posted on 05/11/2002 2:02:36 AM PDT by KDD
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To: dennisw
I guess this will bring peace a lot nearer.
5 posted on 05/11/2002 2:25:20 AM PDT by unending thunder
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To: ex con

 

My opinion is this D-9 is far from the biggest bulldozer around. The blade looks pretty reinforced as it is.

 

http://www.ritchieequipment.com/Dozer/CAT%20D%209%20H%2090V-4421_cover.html

 


7 posted on 05/11/2002 2:33:40 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: KDD

Interesting- we see a lot of similar excavators on roadwork around here.

8 posted on 05/11/2002 2:43:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: dennisw
The US should send Israel a boat load of D-11s.
9 posted on 05/11/2002 5:08:30 AM PDT by Ken in Denver
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To: Ken in Denver
explosions and Heavy Equipment!!! They should have filmed that baby! They could have recouped the cost of the operation selling the tape to rednecks like me who would watch it!!! EXTREME Pest Control, WHO YA GONNA CALL? Ariel MAN!!!
10 posted on 05/11/2002 5:49:48 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: dennisw
Darn...a D9 is big enough and powerful enough to plow through multi storied buildings without any strain...I can just IMAGINE the effect one of those buggers would have while plowing a path through MULTUPLE BUILDINGS, even WITHOUT the boobytrap-busting armor plating!

AWESOME!!

11 posted on 05/11/2002 5:59:19 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
Israel has had these D-9's for years. An important use of them now is to clear roads of the new anti tank mines the Pallies have been using. Israel does not want to see it Merkaba tanks taken out like this. 

I guess the Pallies don't have too many asphalt paved roads. Palliland is a Guatemala standard of living in the MidEast desert

12 posted on 05/11/2002 6:28:22 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: sleavelessinseattle
explosions and Heavy Equipment!!! They should have filmed that baby! They could have recouped the cost of the operation selling the tape to rednecks like me who would watch it!!!

LOL! Ain't that the truth? It'd be better than the TV show "Junkyard Wars". My family and all our little bubbas & bubbettes would eat it up. The Israelis ought to think about the marketing aspects...

13 posted on 05/11/2002 7:21:08 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones;sleavelessinseattle
As I recall from previous threads, the Israelis had cameras mounted on a large number of its pieces of equipment. Those tapes may exist. Sounds like it's time to put together a business proposal. Little bit of editing equipment, little bit of marketing savvy, we're good to go. Gotta be as good as the "Wildest Chases" shows. Throw in the video of the fake funerals and we're talking real entertainment.
14 posted on 05/11/2002 8:05:58 AM PDT by NerdDad
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To: dennisw
These are awesome machines. We had them in RED HORSE when I was in Korea.
15 posted on 05/11/2002 8:07:24 AM PDT by NerdDad
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To: dennisw
An Israeli engineering-corps officer logged 124 separate explosions set off by the vehicle. In the camp, the explosive charges were even more densely packed,

The Palies scream and yell when their homes are bulldozed and it's understandable. The Israelis are supposed to walk in and get blown up by all those bombs.

16 posted on 05/11/2002 8:31:05 AM PDT by xJones
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To: dennisw
Wazzup with the hand?
17 posted on 05/11/2002 9:26:48 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: dennisw
For a dose of truth:
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part I
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668601/posts
Non-evidence and Pali fabrication of evidence
Steyn: The UN is running out of blind eyes to turn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669411/posts
Interesting link on UN backpedaling
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669632/posts
Palestinians drop their hyped-up "massacre" charges
The Massacre That Never Was
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668572/posts
The testimony of pathological liars
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part III
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/672189/posts
Jimmy Carter, Mr. Middle East Fiasco, has an opinion
There was No Massacre in Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668650/posts
The Elite, The Paid, The Gullible all accept Pali lies
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part IV
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/672160/posts
Yet more non-evidence and Pali fabrication of evidence
NY POST: THE MASSACRE THAT WASN'T
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/667529/posts
Peres: There wasn't a house that wasn't booby-trapped
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part V
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/673145/posts
The Pali's contradict themselves and blame it on Israel
Steyn: It's time to snap out of Arab fantasy land
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669063/posts
Some great Oriana Fallaci quotes/links as well
WSJ: The Massacre That Wasn't - Part VI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/678521/posts
Pali grave digging and UN jury rigging
Jenin's 'Massacre' Death Toll Reduced to 56
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675752/posts
Say it slow: Israelis told the truth, Palis told lies

An interesting juxtaposition of tales:
Message From An Israeli On The Front Lines
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/673234/posts
"Entire families exploded themselves! It was horrific."
Palestinian Fighter admits: No Massacre in Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/671903/posts
2,000 bombs and booby-traps placed in the camp
Pediatrician: terrorists used children in Jenin camp
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/670962/posts
Doc: IDF did everything possible to avoid civilian harm
Palestinians Booby-Trap Wheelchair in Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/670810/posts
NOTE: The wheelchair was occupied!!
Jenin War Diary of a Hasidic Soldier - Part I
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/672951/posts
Israeli citizen-soldier describes what went on in Jenin
Massacre Claims Unsupported by Pali Fighters
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675129/posts
Pali eyewitnesses all support the Israeli version
Jenin War Diary of a Hasidic Soldier - Part II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/678298/posts
There is no army as humane as the IDF
Palestinian fighter's version of the Jenin battle
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/672896/posts
Pali Plan: Trap Israeli soldiers, then blow them up

Yellow Journalism: Sensationalism, Yes!   Truth, No!
How the L.A. Times and CNN Distorted Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/681552/posts
First, you start with an agenda...
Jenin: The Big Lie. Fighting the Media War
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/667296/posts
World media falls for Goebbels's 'Big Lie' ... Again
The Media and 'The Massacre'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668719/posts
Quick to report fantasy, slow to correct errors
Atrocities of the British Press
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669206/posts
Huge amounts of ink devoted to unverified Pali tales
Reporters Back Down From 'Massacre' Reports
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668509/posts
World press forced to face the truth: No Massacre
The Big Jenin Lie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/679694/posts
Putrid Pali Propaganda Promptly Panned - GO FR!

We're from the UN.   We're Here to Help.
The Overseers of Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675737/posts
Camps run by UN are centers for terror bombings
U.N.'s Point Man In Jenin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/673541/posts
Arafat's militia gangs rely on Mr. Roed-Larsen
Guilty Until Proven Guilty
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675043/posts
Surprise! The UN has a not-so-hidden agenda
The Jenin Probe Ends
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675737/posts
UN unhappy about Israel's possible exhoneration

And so, in conclusion:
The 'Jenin Massacre' Hoax
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/677148/posts
Living in a world of monstrous moral inversion
The Phantom Massacre
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/672761/posts
War Crimes in Jenin were committed by the Palis
Terrorists admit they carried out atrocities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/679306/posts
Fanatics brutalize women, children, old men
Jenin's War Criminals
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675340/posts
What the Palestinians did was the real war crime

18 posted on 05/11/2002 9:27:25 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: My Identity
http://www.chamsah.com/EvilEye.htm .....But I'm going to get a better looking one.
19 posted on 05/11/2002 9:32:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

http://www.meru.org/contin.html or http://www.meru.org

20 posted on 05/11/2002 9:54:39 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/Torah.html

As Stan Tenen has noted, the 613 Commandments are divided into 365 negative Commandments and 248 positive Commandments.
The 365 correspond to the central number in the 27x27 Magic Square and the 9x9x9 Magic Cube.
The 248 correspond to the 248-dimensional Lie algebra E8, the 8-dimensional E8 lattice, and the (3,5) Torus Knot.

21 posted on 05/11/2002 10:14:26 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: monkeyshine
http://www.luckfactory.com/mideasthand1.html
22 posted on 05/11/2002 10:20:25 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Israel takes the D-9 and adds armor to it and

Caterpillar is another heavy industry that the globalist bushbots want to export to Mexico or China.

23 posted on 05/11/2002 10:26:45 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: dennisw
This is cool stuff. The kind of stuff that raises the hair on the back of my neck.

Toda Raba for the links!

25 posted on 05/11/2002 10:36:24 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Waskishi
WOW! F-16's tanks nukes and now d-10's against kids with slingshots.

If you believe that, I've got Salon stock for you at only a buck per share. Hurry while it lasts!

26 posted on 05/11/2002 10:49:41 AM PDT by dighton
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To: dennisw
D9



D11

27 posted on 05/11/2002 12:36:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NerdDad
LOL I forgot about the fake funeral!!!
28 posted on 05/11/2002 12:57:22 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: dennisw
I WANT A D-9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
29 posted on 05/11/2002 1:03:34 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: dennisw
Thanks for the story. There's also a poll there you all might want to hit.
30 posted on 05/11/2002 1:12:33 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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To: dennisw
Good information. Thanks Dennis.
31 posted on 05/11/2002 6:02:33 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dennisw

32 posted on 05/11/2002 6:27:51 PM PDT by klpt
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To: dennisw
Good job, Israel!
33 posted on 05/11/2002 7:10:42 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: klpt
Now that is one huge tank. No wonder the Pallies are spooked by them.
34 posted on 05/11/2002 9:57:58 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Wow, that model would come in handy for removing those pesky muzli howl towers from the skyline.
35 posted on 05/12/2002 9:23:24 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Jeremiah Jr
Zome of the crock and AlAks-hole mosque too. Let the games and revelations begin. I'm ready.
36 posted on 05/12/2002 9:35:21 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Waskishi
WOW! F-16's tanks nukes and now d-10's against kids with slingshots. John Wayne " the smaller the man bigger the dozer.

Let's take a look at how this really works... First the palestinians, armed with knives, guns, and now bombs, take on school children, housewives, and the infirm. Later, when confronted by Israeli police, they send their children with slings and stones... They are the ones who keep escallating the war... In fact, it is now a war due to the actions of the palestinians. Arafat could have chosen to have a viable state for the palestinians, but that would have meant halting the "intifada," which some, like you, insists was begun by the actions of Sharon, even thought there's irefutable evidence that it was planned far in advance of Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount, which you should be aware of, is a Jewish Holy site. BTW, the Temple Mount was off limit to Jews from 1948 through 1967, when it was liberated from Jordan (not the palestinians). Oh, and before then? Well, Jews had access to it, but if they dared pray at the Western Wall of the Second Temple, they were assaulted and sometimes killed by the arabs...

Mark

37 posted on 05/12/2002 12:53:45 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: klpt
Anybody hereabouts know the other name for a military D-9 'dozer. Surely there's at least one former combat engineer around here....

[The Allis-Chalmers HD 16M did its share of the heavy work too]

-archy-/-


38 posted on 12/04/2002 8:46:59 AM PST by archy
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To: dennisw
Bump
39 posted on 12/04/2002 8:53:28 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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