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Shooters hired to kill up to 15,000 kangaroos on Australian army base
Star Publications (Malaysia) ^ | 2002/5/20

Posted on 05/20/2002 3:54:51 PM PDT by jedi150

!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> Shooters hired to kill up to 15,000 kangaroos on Australian army base

MELBOURNE, Australia (AP): Shooters gathered Monday to begin killing up to 15,000 kangaroos on grasslands within an army base in southern Australia, after
the animals' population surged and they were beginning to starve.

The Defense Department hired nine shooters to reduce the kangaroo population on the 44,000-hectare (110,000-acre) Puckapunayl army base in the southern state
of Victoria, department spokesman Brian Humphreys said.

"Shooting will start in another day or so,'' he said.

Inspectors from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals will have access to the base to make sure the cull is conducted humanely. The animals
will be shot in the head, and their carcasses buried in mass graves on the base.

The killing will take an estimated three months and cost about 700,000 Australian dollars (dlrs 385,000).

The base's kangaroo population exploded to more than 80,000 -- from about 45,000 in 1999 -- after the removal of sheep flocks from the area allowed grass to
grow unchecked, providing fodder for hordes of kangaroos.

Ecologists recommended the cull after hundreds of kangaroos began starving and tangling themselves in wire fences in a bid to find new pastures.

Animal welfare activists have said they were prepared to stand between shooters and kangaroos if they deem that the animals are being unnecessarily killed.

Spokeswoman Rheya Linden of the group Animal Active said that only sick kangaroos should be shot, while healthy ones should be fed and released.

Several protesters were evicted from the base Sunday when they broke through a fence and attempted to feed bales of hay to some of the kangaroos.

There are over 60 different species of kangaroo in Australia. While it is impossible to determine the exact number in Australia, the population of the four most
common species is thought to be more than 50 million.
 
 


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1 posted on 05/20/2002 3:54:52 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: jedi150
Someone alert PETA.
2 posted on 05/20/2002 3:56:22 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: jedi150
Why didn't they just hire Nugent to do this? It would only take him a couple of hours.
3 posted on 05/20/2002 3:57:25 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: What Is Ain't
Is that People Eating Tasty Animals or the other one?
4 posted on 05/20/2002 3:57:50 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: jedi150
Those dang roos are like rabbits.
5 posted on 05/20/2002 4:00:23 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: jedi150
The law of unintended consequences strikes again...
6 posted on 05/20/2002 4:01:30 PM PDT by lsee
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To: jedi150
Be careful of eating at McDonalds in the coming months.
7 posted on 05/20/2002 4:05:04 PM PDT by mseltzer
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To: big bunyip
,,, well, that's some of the military land taken care of - when do you think they'll shoot the ones on the golf courses?
8 posted on 05/20/2002 4:10:44 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: byron the aussie;anapikoros;banksia
BUMP
9 posted on 05/20/2002 4:11:31 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: jedi150
Animal welfare activists, said they were prepared to stand between hunters and kangaroos

Good.

10 posted on 05/20/2002 4:13:56 PM PDT by jeremiah
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To: jedi150
Er... the Army is hiring people to shoot for them?
11 posted on 05/20/2002 4:17:02 PM PDT by Grut
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To: shaggy eel
What does kangaroo taste like? Inquiring minds want to know!

a.cricket

12 posted on 05/20/2002 4:17:14 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: another cricket
Kangaroo.
13 posted on 05/20/2002 4:19:03 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: another cricket
,,, a few years back the Aussies shipped kangaroo meat to the US as "beef". It was discovered and their export industry took a hit for quite a while. I haven't tried kangaroo but I fully intend to and know it's on sale here in New Zealand. Obviously, it's a red meat and not too far off what beef is like, in my estimation.
14 posted on 05/20/2002 4:22:25 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: mseltzer
I don't know how they taste but I know their hides make the best rawhide for making braided items.
15 posted on 05/20/2002 4:22:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: jedi150
"Animal welfare activists have said they were prepared to stand between shooters and kangaroos if they deem that the animals are being unnecessarily killed. "

"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five. Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kind have lost track myself. but bein' this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question.......do i feel lucky?..........well do ya punk?"

16 posted on 05/20/2002 4:24:59 PM PDT by gwynapnudd
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To: shaggy eel
They taste similar to Deer meat.
17 posted on 05/20/2002 4:25:01 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: Ditter
,,, are their hides tougher than Texans'?
18 posted on 05/20/2002 4:25:02 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: What Is Ain't
Never mind PETA! Hey, Nugent, are you on tour? We have an assignment for you. Will make a great new chapter for your new book Kill it and Grill It.
19 posted on 05/20/2002 4:26:51 PM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN
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To: jedi150
Maybe I am strange, but I do not understand why an Army would hire hunters to do shooting for them, even for kangaroos. Seems to me an excellent opportunity for realistic live-fire practice. If not line troops, then snipers.
20 posted on 05/20/2002 4:28:00 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings
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To: Quigley
Dust off your Sharps they need you down under...
21 posted on 05/20/2002 4:28:04 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: jedi150
I'll buy the skins for these!


22 posted on 05/20/2002 4:28:50 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: shaggy eel
Kangaroo is excellent meat and is both expensive and popular in Europe. Reason - fear of Mad Cow disease, BSE, or CJD. Germany was the first country to allow them to be domesticated. I think you get 40 lbs of edible meat in 6 months with roos.
23 posted on 05/20/2002 4:30:11 PM PDT by gwynapnudd
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To: No Truce With Kings
,,, tenders would have been called to do the big shoot and when the sums were done, I bet contractors would have weighed in cheaper.
24 posted on 05/20/2002 4:30:33 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: jedi150
Any animal whose collective name is "A Mob" deserves to be shot.
25 posted on 05/20/2002 4:34:00 PM PDT by scouse
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To: gwynapnudd
,,, Germans and Koreans have been longtime buyers of our farmed venison too. It's more than CJD that has determined the German export orders - it's a taste thing. I eat venison at any opportunity I get too.
26 posted on 05/20/2002 4:35:08 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: jedi150

27 posted on 05/20/2002 4:38:26 PM PDT by gwynapnudd
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To: gwynapnudd
UMMMMMMMMMM!!!! MEAT!
28 posted on 05/20/2002 4:51:04 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: gwynapnudd
I had something pithy to write, but after looking at the meat I can't remember what it was.
29 posted on 05/20/2002 4:56:03 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: jedi150
Reckon it's sort of like quail hunting except they don't keep going up?
30 posted on 05/20/2002 5:08:32 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: shaggy eel
Kangaroo hides are thin & a beautiful color & they can be cut in very thin strings & braided into bridles & reins & other stuff. They are the best. Texans hides are tough & thick & we have scars & warts & stuff on them & we are very apposed to giving our hides up. heh heh
31 posted on 05/20/2002 5:47:39 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: shaggy eel
Thanks for the ping, shag.

When I was a nipper, we thought roo meat was good only for feeding to the dogs. But about a month ago, the little woman and I were dining at an Oz restaurant, a joint called Eight Mile Creek, in fashionable SoHo here in Gotham, and they had it on the menu.

The wife's verdict: It tastes like venison -- which makes a pleasant change from everything else, which always tastes like chicken.

32 posted on 05/20/2002 7:01:06 PM PDT by Big Bunyip
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To: jedi150
I think we best be taking a close look at the "beef" those Aussies ship here.
33 posted on 05/20/2002 7:05:29 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Big Bunyip
,,, on the basis of your wife's judgement, I'm even keener to try kangaroo meat than I was some hours ago. I thought I'd get around to it, now I'll hunt some down (supermarket hunting) and do some product familiarisation. Buffalo and crocodile will surely follow. Ostrich was the last non-standard tasting session!
34 posted on 05/20/2002 7:44:52 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: jedi150
My Dad had a pair of kangaroo leather books, the softest leather ever. Wish I had a pair.
35 posted on 05/20/2002 7:46:01 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: jedi150; shaggy eel; Sungirl
Station: 3AW Date: 17/05/2002
Program: DRIVE Time: 1630
Compere: STAN ZEMANEK
Summary ID: M00006980494
Item: CULL OF KANGAROOS AT PUCKAPUNYAL ARMY BASE: INTERVIEW WITH DR.HUGH WIRTH, RSPCA

ZEMANEK: Is it true also that the land really can only take 40 or 50,000 kangaroos, but in actual fact there's over 100,000?

WIRTH: There is certainly over 100,000.  The estimates are guesstimates about what is sustainable.  The Army, up to date, has failed to produce a kangaroo management plan for their base. They have now promised a draft kangaroo management plan on Monday.  A copy will be given to the Department and to the RSPCA to approve or disapprove, as the case may be, and it will be then that they'll produce the facts on sustainability.

ZEMANEK: What do you think about the animal active protesters who have said, and I quote: they will put their bodies on the line to stop the cull?

WIRTH: Well, that's ridiculous.  It's not helping the kangaroos.  Look, we have a major crisis at Puckapunyal.  There is a great deal of suffering, and the Western cultural ethic is when you've got an animal suffering you put it out of its misery. Now, if they like to stand in front of the guns, so be it, but I hope that the Military Police attend to them.

36 posted on 05/20/2002 11:08:58 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: jedi150; shaggy eel; Sungirl; Carry_Okie
[snip] Hi fellow clear-thinkers. And thanks to John for this clarification. The roo cull is necessary/good for the environment, and for the overall roo population. Letting them lay to rot, or bulldozing them is a BLOODY CRIMINAL ACT. I'll bet that the volunteer service providers to the poor and homeless in Victoria would not turn up their noses at the opportunity to get their hands on a  hundred tonnes of high quality protein. Why can't the Federal & Victorian Govts. get off their collective arses and fast-track an approval arrangement with DNRE for Pucka - as an emergency measure ? XXX

---------- From: "John Kelly"
Reply-To: "John Kelly"
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:51:45 +1000
To: XXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: Hugh Wirth on roo cull

Vic does not have a Federally approved management plan for roos so there is no possibility of them entering commercial trade, it will all be shoot and let lay

John Kelly
Kangaroo Industries Association of Australia
Email kiaa@bigpond.net.au
website http://www.kangaroo-industry.asn.au
----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
To: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: FW: Hugh Wirth on roo cull

I wonder if the RSPCA will ask the Feds that they be paid for having their "inspectors" present. I would have thought, what with the reported potential closure of at least one animal shelter in Victoria, that the RSPCA could well use their resources in a more effective way than swanning around Pucka for three months. I hope that the roos are going to be processed and not "let lay". What is the story JK - any way to utilise the roos??[snip]

37 posted on 05/20/2002 11:14:42 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: shaggy eel
Roo meat can be a bit 'stringy', but is quite tasty .. and is seriously low in cholesterol.

Best served with a bush-tucker style cumquat or plum sauce.

Regards

Sadim

38 posted on 05/20/2002 11:20:40 PM PDT by sadimgnik
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To: gwynapnudd
You sure know how to make a girl hungry.

Why are they going to waste all of that meat by putting it in a 'mass grave?' Shooting them isn't an outrage but throwing away the meat is a little absurd.

39 posted on 05/20/2002 11:25:41 PM PDT by piasa
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To: jedi150
I was going to ask why they don't have some kind of program where the meat is processed and used as food. But then I read the part about how they are starving to death and only the sick ones will be shot. The muscle tissue of a starving animal isn't the best thing in the world to eat. In fact, if you yourself are starving, eating the muscle of a starving animal will kill you. It's called protein poisoning.
40 posted on 05/20/2002 11:30:06 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Big Bunyip
My wife grew up near the real Eight Mile Creek in South Australia. It isn't really a creek at all, but rather a small, smelly and rubbish filled mangrove swamp.
41 posted on 05/21/2002 4:20:11 AM PDT by gd124
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To: jedi150
"Animal welfare activists have said they were prepared to stand between shooters and kangaroos if they deem that the animals are being unnecessarily killed. "

I second the motion. Bury 'em with the Roos.

I would offer the tanners and meat processors a chance to bid on the harvest to help pay for the extermination costs. (Just the Roos. The activists should be left to rot in the sun as an abject lesson to liberals of all stripes.)

42 posted on 05/21/2002 4:30:00 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: piasa
Aim high they maybe hopping.....
43 posted on 05/21/2002 4:31:56 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: shaggy eel
Posted: Wed, 22 May 2002 7:57 AEST

ABC Newsonline

Victoria denies kangaroos culled for commercial reasons The Victorian Government has given assurances that kangaroos culled at the Puckapunyal Army Base in central Victoria will not be used to initiate a commercial harvesting industry in that State.

The Defence Department has a permit to destroy 15,000 roos - part of an 80,000 herd overrunning the base.

Environment Minister Sherryl Garbutt says Victoria is not interested in culling kangaroos for commercial reasons.

However she concedes that does not prevent the cull from being sent to other states for commercial processing.

"If they could make all the arrangements, they could, I suppose take it to New South Wales or other states, but we certainly won't be seeing kangaroo meat industries set up here in Victoria, it's not desirable nor is it feasible," she said.

The Defence Department says it would like to see a commercial operation as part of the kangaroo management plan in the long term future.

44 posted on 05/21/2002 4:48:36 PM PDT by anapikoros
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To: jedi150
The animals will be shot in the head, and their carcasses buried in mass graves on the base.

What a waste! If they have to be killed, at least make use of their skins. Kangaroo rugs are very nice. I used to own a couple.

45 posted on 05/21/2002 4:51:31 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: anapikoros
The Defence Department says it would like to see a commercial operation as part of the kangaroo management plan in the long term future.

,,, with a statement like that from the Defence Dept, it seems they might be in line for slimming down and they're looking to diversify!

46 posted on 05/21/2002 4:54:21 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: sadimgnik
Roo meat can be a bit 'stringy', but is quite tasty .. and is seriously low in cholesterol. Best served with a bush-tucker style cumquat or plum sauce.

,,, sounding more and more like venison. Yum!

47 posted on 05/21/2002 4:56:58 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: anapikoros
,,, let me translate post #48 for you [Maybe their is to many aussie's] -

Maybe there are too many Aussies?

49 posted on 05/21/2002 5:20:25 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: jedi150
Roo. It's what's for dinner!
50 posted on 05/21/2002 5:23:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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