Skip to comments.Legislators Object to Allowing State and Local Police to Arrest Illegal Aliens
Posted on 05/24/2002 1:55:58 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
Washington In an unusual demonstration of bipartisanship, Hispanic both Republican and democratic legislators have closed ranks to oppose the authorization of state and local police to carry out immigration laws.
We are calling on President Bush and the Attorney General John Ashcroft to stop persuing a plan that is not only ill-conceived, but just wont work, congressman Robert Menendez D-NJ said Thursday.
Menendez, vice president of the House Hispanic caucus, insisted that the anticipated authorization from the Department of Justice granting local police the authority to detain undocumented immigrants would be a disaster.
He insisted that this decision, anticipated to come out very shortly, opens the door to potential abuses at the hands of police and besides would be a mistaken response that also would lend itself to discriminatory acts against Hispanics.
Stopping a person as a suspect only because of their appearance in no way is the way we will make this country more secure, stated the congressman in front of reporters and other democrat Hispanic reporters during a news conference.
Menendez said that in addition to these considerations, there exists open opposition from the police departments of Chicago, Los Angeles, Austin, Denver, San Diego, Miami, Nueva York, and Washington, due to the operational problems that this decision would bring.
For his part, Jose Serano, democrat congressman from Nueva York, warned that measures of this kind would negatively impact the relationship between police and immigrant communities who are already reluctant to report crimes.
If we take a step back, and be honest, How can we expect that the INS, with the problems they already have in doing their own work, would be able to supervise local police? asked the congressman.
Serano revealed that opposition to this measure has also included Republican congressmen from Florida, Illeana Ross Lehtinen and Lincoln Diaz Balart because like our selves they feel that this would have a negative impact on Hispanic immigrants.
Ashcrofts decision, which has been postponed from last month, is derived form an opinion that was issued weeks ago by the Office of Legal Cousel of the Department of Justice, as part of the recommended actions to confront the terrorist menace.
According to the opinion, the state and municipal governments as sovereign entities have the inherent authority to carry out immigration laws, a power reserved to the federal government through the INS.
The eventual action by the Department of Justice will take place under the auspices of the Immigration Law of 1996, which authorizes the Attorney General to delegate these powers to state and local police during times of migratory emergency.
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It's not about bipartisan politics. It's about La Raza!!
What was odd to me was that the Republicans mentioned are, I think, Cuban. This legislation affects mainly Mexicans so I am not sure why they would fall in line with their Democrat collegues.
By the way, even though some will tell you "La Raza" is a fringe group and in many ways it is, never never discount the power of these groups. After all, fringe goups such as NOW have rewritten vast amounts of our legal code which affects nearly every business and individual in the US.
Good point. The purpose of the ruling was to allow the US to fight terrorism. What is their alternative?
And illegal immigration may be a federal issue, but so is kidnapping and bank robbery, and I don't see the local police backing off those crimes.
Yeah, but who is going to stand up to him. I know my Senator won't. He feels he learned his lesson.
And arming airline pilots would open the door to potential abuses at the hands of pilots.
"Abuse" at this point in our history, refers only to the punishment and/or apprehension of minorities, particularly those who have entered the country illegally, or who happen to be in the act of commandeering aircraft with the intention of flying them into skyscrapers.
But in some ways they have taken over. The Senate is controlled by Democrats because of illegal voters. Only few lone voices will stand up and challenge the likes of Menendez.
I think it is an issue of the INS being able to ask the local authorities to arrest the immigrants.
I don't believe they do. The phrase "a power reserved to the federal government through the INS" is bogus, IMHO. In actuality, a state has every right to apprehend illegals, unless a specific state law prohibits it.
Good analogy. I wonder how many tragedies must take place before the left will stop railing against nearly non-existent abuses.
I think you are probabely right. However, currently the police are not arresting immigrants, nor do they want to get in the business of arresting immigrants. I think this ruling would give the INS some ability to force the locals to cooperate.
If you are from Florida, maybe you can tell me if the two republicans mentioned are of Cuban decent and if they are why would they be throwing in with mainly a Mexican desire.
It seems that when in doubt, these Congressmen will side with their cousins, whether here legally or not. And yet to have been elected to Congress, one has to assume that these Congressmen represent the most assimilated available of their respective ethnic groups.
I have no disrespect for Mexicans--indeed follow the career of several Mexican boxers, with warm appreciation for their skill and courage. But America is basically a land that reflects an Anglo-Saxon, Celtic heritage, enhanced but not changed by Dutch, Germans, French, Italians, Poles, etc., but still basically a reflection of those original Anglo-Saxon, Celtic values.
There is surely room on this Planet for both a Mexican Nation and an American Nation. We do not have to be merged, confused or confounded, to be friendly neighbors. The whole subject of immigration needs to be fully debated, without the hysteria that the compulsive Left always interjects. (See Immigration & The American Future.)
In the meanwhile, I would hope that some of these Congressmen would rethink where there loyalties and interests should now be. Honor is not served by selling short the interests of hospitable people who took you into a Society that they and their forefathers had honorably established.
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As a nation, Why do we want to bring in vast numbers who do not hold things such as the constitution and its bill of rights sacred?
Every time it's been in front of a Federal District judge or Appellate judge the decision has been forceful that they can and should enforce the laws.
In the '70s, when illegals were just starting to come in large numbers, it was easy to identify them: they always did exactly the speed limit, because they didn't want to get stopped by the cops.
Now I assume they have drag races with the cops because not only will they not get deported, I'm sure the state legislatures will exempt them from traffic violations since they don't have licenses. I mean, that would be "hurtful" and "mean spirited" and "nativist" and "xenophobic"...(madness ensues, sound of screaming..)
Both are of Cuban descent, and I'd make a safe guess that they are aligning themselves with other Hispanic groups (not only Mexicans) for one simple reason: votes. South Florida has had a tremendous influx of illegal Latin Americans, to name just one group.
Why don't I see any concern about the negative impact on the realtionship between the police and actual citizens that this malfeasance on Illegals engenders?
Oh, that's right... We pay the bills and only vote once.
What if there was a political party oriented towards tax payers and law abiders??????
What if there was such an electoral system?
The entire state is about 17% Hispanic-Latino origin. That breaks down to 2.3% Mexican, 3% Puerto Rican, 5.2% Cuban, 6.3% Other (which would include Latin-Americans and South-Americans).
Miami-Dade is 57% Hispanic-Latino(1.7% Mexican; 3.6 Puerto Rican; 28.9 Cuban; 23.2 Other Hispanic.)
Broward is about 17% (1.2% Mexican, 3.4% Puerto Rican, 3.1% Cuban, 9% Other Hispanic).
These stats are from the 2000 Census.
Excuse me, is my sarcasm showing?
You can't have victory through the legal process when congress won't abide by it. Since this country is obviously being subverted by our own congress people and rapidly colonized and annexed by Mexico, then I say BLOAT is in order. If they are going to take this country, then they ought to have to spill blood for it.