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China Airlines Plane Missing
Sky News ^ | 09:50 UK, Saturday May 25, 2002 | Sky News

Posted on 05/25/2002 1:59:07 AM PDT by colette_g

China Airlines Plane Missing

A China Airlines passenger aircraft is reported missing on a flight from Taiwan to Hong Kong.

The aircraft was carrying more than 200 passengers and 19 crew onboard the 90 minute flight.

More follows....


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KEYWORDS: china; missing; plane
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1 posted on 05/25/2002 1:59:07 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
um..this cant be good...
2 posted on 05/25/2002 2:00:09 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: deathscythex
I'm just waiting for someone to say "don't worry, this kind of thing happens all the time...." :-)
3 posted on 05/25/2002 2:02:55 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
BUMP
4 posted on 05/25/2002 2:03:29 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: deathscythex
my worst nightmare....my prayers for all on board..

This airline is having lots of trouble as of late....they need to get their sh-t together...

5 posted on 05/25/2002 2:04:07 AM PDT by zarf
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To: deathscythex
Another source : BBC News - Taiwan airliner 'missing'

A Taiwanese airliner carrying more than 200 people is reported to have gone missing during a flight to Hong Kong. The China Airlines jumbo jet disappeared at 0713 GMT from radar screens near the Taiwanese island of Penghu after leaving the Taiwanese capital Taipei, television reports said.

No other details were immediately available

6 posted on 05/25/2002 2:04:49 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
19 Crew. That almost has to be a 747 or MD-11 or?
7 posted on 05/25/2002 2:05:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Can't find any other details yet. Searching . . . . .
8 posted on 05/25/2002 2:06:48 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
So the title of this thread should say:

Republic of China Airline plane missing.....not People's Republic, correct?

9 posted on 05/25/2002 2:07:47 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: colette_g
Official: A China Airlines flight to Hong Kong missing over Taiwanese waters

TAIPEI, Taiwan, May 25, 2002 (AP WorldStream via COMTEX) -- A China Airlines flight to Hong Kong with more than 200 people on board has been reported missing for nearly an hour Saturday afternoon in the Taiwan Strait, an official said.

Flight C1611 took off about 3:30 p.m. (0730 GMT) from Taipei's international airport and was reported missing near about 4:15 p.m. (0815 GMT) near Penghu, a group of islands off Taiwan's western coast, Chuang Suo-hang, a government spokesman.

About 220 passengers and crew were on the Boeing 747, TVBS cable news reported.

China Airlines, Taiwan's biggest airline, did not immediately comment on the report. But the airline has joined the government in forming an emergency taskforce to search for the missing plane, Chuang said. Taiwan's air force and coast guard were looking for the aircraft, he said.

Due to a series of crashes in the 1990s, China Airlines used to be considered one of the world's most dangerous airlines. But in recent years, the carrier has reshuffled its board and has put a greater emphasis on safety.

The last known fatal China Airlines accident was in 1999 when a jetliner flipped over and burst into flames during a crash landing in Hong Kong, killing three people.

According to the aviation safety website, Airsafe.com, China Airlines has had nine fatal accidents since 1970.

Copyright 2002 Associated Press, All rights reserved

10 posted on 05/25/2002 2:11:00 AM PDT by sgaspar
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To: SkyPilot
China Airlines is the name of the company, so it seems right to me - http://www.china-airlines.com/
11 posted on 05/25/2002 2:11:31 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: sgaspar;colette_g
. . in the Taiwan Strait, an official said.

I don't like the sound of this.

12 posted on 05/25/2002 2:17:34 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
It's a 747:

TAIPEI, May 25, 2002 (Kyodo via COMTEX) -- A China Airlines passenger jetliner bound for Hong Kong has gone missing over Taiwan waters shortly after taking off from Taipei, a Taiwan television station reported Saturday.

TVBS reported that the China Airlines Flight 611, a Boeing 747, disappeared from radar screens around 3:33 p.m. as it was flying near Penghu, a group of islands off Taiwan's western coast.

The plane was reportedly carrying 206 passengers and 19 crew members

13 posted on 05/25/2002 2:18:34 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: colette_g
The title is fine, but it gets confusing. So we have a Taiwan airliner missing......and my first reaction is to say this:

I think Communist China might have shot it down.

Of course I could be totally wrong. I just don't trust people who detained our EP-3 after crashing into it, demanding an "APOLOGY", and 5 million dollars for a "landing fee."

By the way, where is Wong Way these days?


14 posted on 05/25/2002 2:22:21 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
No arguments from me over that!
15 posted on 05/25/2002 2:26:32 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: leadpenny
... or an L1011 - I know a few of the AirBus aircraft have large crews also.
16 posted on 05/25/2002 2:28:54 AM PDT by Rays_Dad
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To: colette_g
My mom just took a trip to Taiwan, HongKong, and Thailand. When I saw the title I freaked out. She is getting back later today...its a 13 hr flight though. She isn't going from Taiwan TO HongKong at this point thank God... but that was the same route she took earlier.

I still have to hope the plane isn't lost with all souls.

17 posted on 05/25/2002 2:29:26 AM PDT by mr1776
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To: Movemout;colette_g
Chart for the southern half of Taiwan, including that group of islands.
18 posted on 05/25/2002 2:34:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
What's so bad about that particular area ?
19 posted on 05/25/2002 2:38:20 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
I'm sure the mainland folks think that every airliner over the straits is on a spy mission.
20 posted on 05/25/2002 2:42:46 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mr1776
"She isn't going from Taiwan TO HongKong at this point thank God"

AMEN
Glad to hear that she was not on this flight.
21 posted on 05/25/2002 2:43:59 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: colette_g
Plane missing with 222 on board
From correspondents in Taipai
25may02

A CHINA Airlines flight with 222 people on board has been reported missing for nearly an hour, a television station has reported.

The plane took off at about 3.30pm (1730 AEST) from Taipei's international airport and was reported missing near Penghu at about 4.15pm (1815 AEST), a group of islands off Taiwan's western coast, TVBS reported. It could not be seen on radar, the report said.

It said 203 passengers and 19 crew were on Flight C1611, a Boeing 747, the news report said.

China Airlines, Taiwan's national flag-carrier, did not immediately comment on the report.

Due to a series of crashes in the 1990s, China Airlines used to be considered one of the world's most dangerous airlines. But in recent years, the carrier has reshuffled its board and has put a greater emphasis on safety.

The last known fatal China Airlines accident was in 1999 when a jetliner flipped over and burst into flames during a crash landing in Hong Kong, killing three people.

22 posted on 05/25/2002 2:47:09 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: colette_g
Bit more information at BBC News

"Prime Minister Yu Shyi-kun was quoted as saying that rescue aircraft had spotted life jackets and an oil slick floating near the island. "

This is not looking good - prayers for all on board.

23 posted on 05/25/2002 2:47:20 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
CNN International Update I just watched:

Flight 611, 747-200 model, 225 passengers (including 3 children), 14 crewmen.

Weather probably no factor. Crash occured smack between Mainland China and Taiwan.

They made some statement that "the aircraft was 20 years old!" ...but that makes no difference if maintenance is kept up. Hell, the US Air Force has a great safety record of KC-135s that are model 707 airframes that are nearly 50 years old.

24 posted on 05/25/2002 3:13:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: colette_g
Fox just reporting that it has crashed into the sea
25 posted on 05/25/2002 3:31:10 AM PDT by nini
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To: nini
yep. CBS radio reports Taiwan's premier announced the plane has crashed.
26 posted on 05/25/2002 3:32:47 AM PDT by mr1776
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To: SkyPilot
The safety record of Taiwan airlines is not good.
27 posted on 05/25/2002 3:33:16 AM PDT by The Raven
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2002-05-25 18:13:03

Taipei, May 25 (CNA) The Ministry of Transportation and Communications set up an emergency center after a China Airlines passenger jet disappeared from radar screens Saturday.

2002-05-25 18:09:41 Taipei, May 25 (CNA) President Chen Shui-bian was reported by a Presidential Office spokesman Saturday as being "deeply concerned" about the fate of China Airlines flight No. CI611, which disappeared from radar screens at 3:33 p.m. that day.

Taiwan's "Central News Agency"

28 posted on 05/25/2002 3:40:51 AM PDT by mr1776
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BBC update

Saturday, 25 May, 2002, 10:32 GMT 11:32 UK

Taiwan airliner crashes into sea

A Taiwanese airliner carrying more than 200 people has crashed into the sea on its way to Hong Kong, Taiwan's Prime Minister Yu Shyi-kun said. Taiwanese flag carrier China Airlines flight C1611 disappeared from radar screens near the Taiwanese island of Penghu at 0730 GMT, shortly after leaving the capital Taipei.

There were no immediate reports of survivors.

Rescue aircraft have spotted life jackets and an oil slick floating nearby.

Military planes, helicopters and vessels are now scouring the area for survivors.

Safety problems

After presiding over a meeting of the government's emergency response team, Mr Yu confirmed the plane had plunged into the sea off the island, about 50 kilometres (31 miles) west of Taiwan.

"Some life jackets have been found by rescuers floating some 25 nautical miles northeast of Penghu," Mr Yu said.

One cable TV station quoted Penghu fishermen as saying they saw bodies floating in the water.

The Boeing 747-200 was carrying 206 passengers and 19 crew, Taiwan's Transportation Ministry said.

The flight for Hong Kong usually takes one and a half hours.

The BBC's Duncan Hewitt in Shanghai said that the route between Taiwan and Hong Kong is often used by people travelling onwards from Hong Kong to mainland China and other destinations.

Our correspondent says China Airlines has been seeking to improve a poor safety record which has seen several crashes over the past decade, including a major accident at Taipei's international airport in 1998.

The crash of flight C1611 follows two major accidents in the region involving mainland Chinese airlines during the past month.

You can see this update with graphs/factoids by clicking the BBC link posted above.

29 posted on 05/25/2002 3:46:08 AM PDT by mr1776
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To: codebreaker
taking it back, exchanging for a different model...
30 posted on 05/25/2002 4:03:39 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: colette_g

(05-25) 03:59 PDT (AP) -- TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) -- A China Airlines flight from Taipei to Hong Kong crashed Saturday in the Taiwan Strait with 225 people on board. There were no immediate reports of survivors.

Flight CI611 was reported missing near Penghu, a group of islands off Taiwan's western coast, at about 3:30 p.m. (3:30 a.m. EDT) Saturday -- 50 minutes into its flight, said Kuo Yao-chi, a government official investigating the crash.  LINK...

31 posted on 05/25/2002 4:04:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: colette_g

China Airlines plane crashes en route to Hong Kong
A China Airlines Boeing 747-200 with more than 200 passengers on board crashed into the sea on Saturday en route from Taiwan to Hong Kong, the Prime Minister and airline officials said. (Full Story)

32 posted on 05/25/2002 4:06:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: colette_g
Taiwan Jumbo Jet Crashes

Rescuers have found a large number of bodies after a jumbo jet crashed into the sea between Taiwan and Hong Kong.


33 posted on 05/25/2002 4:13:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: colette_g
alt
 

A Taiwanese airliner carrying more than 200 people has crashed into the sea on its way to Hong Kong, Taiwan's Prime Minister Yu Shyi-kun said.

Taiwanese flag carrier China Airlines flight C1611 disappeared from radar screens near the Taiwanese island of Penghu at 0730 GMT, shortly after leaving the capital Taipei.  BBC LINK...

34 posted on 05/25/2002 4:18:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: colette_g
Still haven't seen any reports that there may have been a distress call from the pilots. This is eerily similar to TWA 800.
35 posted on 05/25/2002 4:20:14 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: colette_g
"don't worry, this kind of thing happens all the time...."
36 posted on 05/25/2002 4:47:07 AM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
;o)
37 posted on 05/25/2002 5:00:35 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: leadpenny
"Investigators fear the plane suffered a mid-air explosion and China Airlines said the pilot had not sent an SOS message."

from Sky News

38 posted on 05/25/2002 5:07:45 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
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From Skynews
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Jumbo Crash Bodies Found

Rescuers have found a large number of bodies after a jumbo jet crashed into the sea between Taiwan and Hong Kong.

The China Airlines passenger aircraft with 225 people onboard crashed shortly after taking off from the Taiwanese capital, Taipei, for Hong Kong.

The Boeing 747-200 was carrying 206 passengers, including three infants, and 19 crew on the ill-fated 90-minute flight.

Oil slick

The jumbo jet took off from Taipei airport at 3.11 pm local time and disappeared off radar screens 19 minutes later.

Investigators fear the plane suffered a mid-air explosion and China Airlines said the pilot had not sent an SOS message.

Six military planes and eight vessels have been deployed in the area.

Rescue teams have reported seeing a large number of bodies and an oil slick in waters off the Taiwanese island of Penghu, also known as the Pescadores.

Emergency team

China Airlines is the national carrier of Taiwan and the Taipei-Hong Kong route is one of the busiest in Asia.

Taiwan Prime Minister Yu Shyi-kun and China Airlines confirmed the plane had crashed into the sea.

"We are making an all-out search and rescue efforts," he said.

The Taiwanese cabinet has formed an emergency team to deal with the crisis.

Last Updated: 12:53 UK, Saturday May 25, 2002

39 posted on 05/25/2002 5:11:14 AM PDT by ChadGore
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To: leadpenny
"Before disappearance, the plane's condition, the weather and the flight condition were normal. Aviation authorities did not receive any SOS from the pilot," Taiwan's Civil Aeronautics Administration said in a statement.

CNN

40 posted on 05/25/2002 5:19:12 AM PDT by colette_g
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Taiwan Plane Crashes in Sea, First Body Found Sat May 25, 7:55 AM ET

TAIPEI (Reuters) - A China Airlines Boeing 747-200 with 225 passengers and crew on board crashed into the sea shortly after takeoff Saturday en route from Taiwan to Hong Kong.

Military search planes and helicopters circling the area spotted a cabin door, life vests and an oil slick at the site of the crash off the Taiwan-held Penghu islands, also known as the Pescadores.

Taiwan transport authorities said the body of a man was picked up, and local cable television said many bodies had been sighted.

An official with China Airlines, Taiwan's main carrier, said the plane did not issue a Mayday call before it disappeared from radar screens about 20 minutes after takeoff.

As night fell, naval ships with powerful searchlights joined the search for survivors.

The weather bureau reported cloud in the area but no rain at the time of the accident.

"Because it's at sea, we can't determine (what happened) before finding anything concrete. But basically, we have found some life vests floating at sea," Premier Yu Shyi-kun told reporters.

In its first comment on the crash, China Airlines said in a statement Flight CI 611, a 22-year-old plane carrying 206 passengers, including three infants, and 19 crew, was suspected to have crashed into the sea.

"I heard a big bang," a fisherman identified only by the name Lee told ETTC cable television. "I thought it was mainland fishermen dynamiting fish."

Dynamite is used illegally off the coast of Taiwan to stun fish and make them easy to catch as they float to the surface.

Cabinet spokesman Chuang Suo-han said: "The cabinet has formed an emergency team to deal with the situation."

The plane took off at 3:08 p.m. (3:08 a.m. EDT) and disappeared off radar screens 20 minutes later, aviation officials said.

"The plane abruptly disappeared from the radar," transportation minister Lin Lin-san told reporters.

"We did not find an explosion in the air," vice transportation minister Chang Chia-juch told reporters when asked by reporters if there had been an airborne explosion.

Flying time from Taiwan to Hong Kong is one and a half hours.

Fourteen of the passengers were from Hong Kong, Macau and China. There were two Singaporeans and one European on board, airline officials said.

In the last major crash in Taiwan in October 2000, a Singapore Airlines plane crashed at Taipei airport killing 83 of 179 people on board.

China Airlines was taken over by its first woman chief executive officer in 2000 to shed an appalling image after three deadly accidents in six years.

A China Airlines MD 11 crashed on landing in Hong Kong in September 1999 and all but three of the 315 passengers and crew survived. More than 200 were injured.

In February 1998, a China Airlines Airbus carrying holidaymakers back from Bali crashed and disintegrated at Taipei airport, killing 196 aboard and seven on the ground.

That disaster followed an April 1994 crash in Nagoya, Japan, when a China Airlines Airbus A300-600R stalled during landing. Only seven of the 271 passengers and crew survived.

..................... No speculation on my part, but this opens up some new doors...

41 posted on 05/25/2002 5:26:03 AM PDT by mr1776
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To: colette_g
Although Leadpenny answered your question, I'd like to add that mainland China has been quickly building up her missile sites along the Taiwan Strait, targeting Taiwan itself.

To give you an example of the distance involved, I lived in Tainan for 1 and 1/2 years and on a very clear day you could see the outline of he Chinese mainland across the strait.

I pray for the deceased and also that the crash was not caused by the communist Chinese.

EODGUY

42 posted on 05/25/2002 5:32:10 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
Thanks EODGUY, it all helps to build a picture.
43 posted on 05/25/2002 5:34:24 AM PDT by colette_g
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China Airlines english site is hosed.......

http://usa.china-airlines.com/us/index.htm

44 posted on 05/25/2002 5:39:15 AM PDT by mr1776
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To: mr1776
bump this thread
45 posted on 05/25/2002 6:16:14 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook
"bump this thread"

K...BUMP

Prayers for survivors.

Hope some trigger happy Red Army soldier didn't cause this...

46 posted on 05/25/2002 6:28:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: EODGUY
I lived in northern Taiwan (up near the veteran's hospital) for some time - greatly enjoyed it. One aspect bothered me, though - the highest property values in the north end were near the national palace museum, because it was believed that the area would not be hit by missiles from the mainland in event of war, and was thus a safe place to live...
47 posted on 05/25/2002 6:36:37 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: colette_g
AP News in Brief China Airlines Flight to Hong Kong Crashes in the Taiwan Strait Near the Taiwanese Island of Penghu
48 posted on 05/25/2002 6:48:31 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I have nothing but fond memories of the island of Taiwan and the people who inhabit it. They were honest, friendly and very polite. I was in the military and they truly treasured our military presence in their country.

I must admit, I was really angered when we (Nixon) turned our back on that country, a country that at that time sought a democratic form of government and has since achieved it.

I am very pleased that our president has renewed his committment to support the Taiwanese people.

Were you up near Taipei?

49 posted on 05/25/2002 6:50:56 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: colette_g
Pics of the exact plane that crashed
50 posted on 05/25/2002 7:00:16 AM PDT by cmsgop
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