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Prophet Revives Dead Man
News 24 ^ | 5/25/02 | Elize Smith

Posted on 05/27/2002 8:06:21 AM PDT by marshmallow

Nigerian prophet T B Joshua laid his body partially over that of a man who had been declared clinically dead more than half-an-hour before and ordered: "In the name of Jesus, arise." A few minutes later the man, Moses Marole (76), opened his eyes. That is the testimony of a group of South Africans who went to visit the Nigerian prophet last month. The "miracle" was recorded on videotape, "so the world can see God is alive". Marole just shakes his head after arising like Lazarus from the dead.

"I know nothing. I only know what people have told me," he says.

Tour leader Santa du Plessis says shortly after their arrival Marole collapsed in the dining room of a probable heart attack. "I was very worried and didn't know how we'd get him back to South Africa, and how we'd inform his family of the tragic news." Dr Johan Wilkenson, a neurosurgeon from Bloemfontein, found no heartbeat. Wilkenson and two others treated Marole for about ten minutes with artificial respiration, but to no avail. He then declared Marole dead.

Danie Terblanche, a private pilot, says he closed Marole's eyes. "I could feel his icy-cold face. He was definitely dead." Junior prophets from the church prayed for Marole. They then asked Wilkenson and Christo Myburgh, a defence force officer, to continue the emergency treatment. "After a while we could feel a faint pulse," says Wilkenson. Joshua asked that Marole be brought to him. The video shows how Joshua orders Marole to rise . He then takes Marole's hand and it looks as if he blows into his face. Marole says it felt as if he woke up into a strange world. Only later did he hear what had happened.

"People at home think I'm talking nonsense, but it was a miracle," he says.

Wilkenson says he works with many ill people and has no doubt he witnessed a miracle. "Even if we had the best medical equipment, it would not have been possible to bring him back to life." Marole suffers from diabetes and has not been cured. Joshua gave him money so he can return to Nigeria where he (Joshua) would pray for him to be cured of the disease. "I am a new person. The Lord has freed me," Marole said.

TOPICS: Culture/Society

1 posted on 05/27/2002 8:06:21 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
I hear that Al Gore is in talks with him to bring his Presidential aspirations back from the dead.
2 posted on 05/27/2002 8:45:34 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ex con
Right, in less than 30 minutes his body is icy cold.

Wellll, it does get pretty cold in Nigeria...

4 posted on 05/27/2002 8:53:42 AM PDT by null and void
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To: marshmallow; dighton; aculeus
T. B. Joshua

A great deal of information can be found about him using a google search.

5 posted on 05/27/2002 8:57:06 AM PDT by Orual
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To: marshmallow
A decade or so ago, a Chinese woman lost her husband to death. . . all the following checked out by some missionaries as I understood it then. . . the widow was resolute. She insisted on laying the corpse by the roadside where she preached as nonstop as she could for 4 days, as I recall--may have been 3--that hubby would come back to life by Jesus' Resurrection power. And he did.

There's a region of Mexico where the senior pastor of a group of churches and branches will not even consider a candidate for a pastor position until he's been a channel for several verified, authentic resurrections.

6 posted on 05/27/2002 9:01:33 AM PDT by Quix
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To: marshmallow
They then asked Wilkenson and Christo Myburgh, a defence force officer, to continue the emergency treatment.
"After a while we could feel a faint pulse," says Wilkenson. Joshua asked that Marole be brought to him.

somethings out of order here...

7 posted on 05/27/2002 9:02:19 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: Quix
I read a book about 20 years or so ago that documented a number of such resurrections in the Phillipines.
8 posted on 05/27/2002 9:08:29 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Orual
Separated at birth?

9 posted on 05/27/2002 9:11:48 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: marshmallow

T.B. Joshua of Lagos, Nigeria
By Bill Randles (excerpts from a letter to a South African newspaper on 02.05.01)

Various reports are received on the spiritual motivation, theology and questionable practices of Prophet Joshua of Nigeria. Following is an article by Bill Randles of the USA:

In the light of the fact that we believe we are living in the last days before Jesus’ return, and that one of the warnings Jesus gave us was that immediately before that time there would arise on the scene “false prophets” who would be able to perform “signs and wonders…so that if possible they would be able to deceive even the very elect”, It is extremely important that we be all the more discerning… We must "try the Spirits to see whether they be of God”(I Jn. 4:1). There are several caveats I offer to those who are seeking discernment of these phenomena:

 Born with the gift of healing. On a French television interview, Prophet Joshua said that he had received this ‘gift’ at birth. The true Gifts of the Spirit of God (see I Cor. 12-14) are not bestowed at birth to anyone, one must be converted to Christ, and even then the gifts are distributed “As the Spirit wills”.

Transubstantiation. On videotape distributed by the Synagogue of all Nations, A “Blood of Jesus” Service was shown. It consisted of the Prophet Joshua blessing a huge tank of water, touching each of twelve running spigots, proclaiming them to now be “the blood of Jesus”. The congregation was then shown rushing forward, pushing and pulling among themselves seeking to get to those spigots first, that they might drink, splash, and in some cases even shower in  “the blood of Jesus”. This is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of it all, as it turns the Biblical doctrine of the blood of Jesus (His vicarious death) into a sensuous, superstitious experience. No Priest or Prophet can turn any substance into the blood of Jesus. That is more akin to paganism and magic than Christianity. The blood of Jesus was shed as a sacrifice to God the Father, not as a potion to be slashed and bathed in!

False separation between the Sheep and the goats. In addition to the other antics at the blasphemous "Blood of Jesus " service, as the people pushed, pulled and shoved forward to participate in the so called blood, those who had “agents of Satan”, were put into a demonic frenzy, rolling on the ground, through the muck and mire (more on that next) screaming and moaning in agony. There is demon possession indeed, but one would look in vain anywhere in the scriptures to find any deliverance service remotely resembling this so called “Blood of Jesus” service. Joshua proclaimed this as the” separation of the sheep and the goats”, which actually takes place at the Judgment day.

Undignified practices. There is also a very undignified and even degrading aspect to these healings.  When Christ healed it was all so dignified. True man is below, God is above, but man is not “Nothing”, He is made “In the Image of God”. In the Joshua videotape, released by the Synagogue, men with rectal cancer are asked to take down their pants, before others, both before and after the healing. A woman bares her breasts, one showing cancer, and stands before a mixed assembly in the agony of her pain. As the healing progresses, her breast is seen oozing puss and yellow bile into a pool on her dress and flowing into a puddle on the floor.  People are seen “Vomiting their troubles away” on the floor, some vomiting blood, some rocks, shells, large worms, live insects, Where did Jesus or His apostles ever do any such things? Yes these stains can be seen on the floor, the very spots where people vomited blood, and where women are seen on camera passing bloody “fibroids” from between their legs! On this same floor, people are put into trances, laid out on that same floor, (One can see the spots) and in those trances many are seen rolling about among those spots.

Remote control. T.B. Joshua uses a technique called “remote control”, in which by hand motions, standing ten feet or so away from “patients” he manipulates their motions. By scooting his hands to the left, the patient seems irresistibly drawn to the left, and to the right, the patient goes to the right, by circling his hands, Joshua send the patient into a circle, often until they spiral out of control, falling into a dazed heap!   This method once again is more akin to occult healing practices, than it is to the Majestic healing gifts of Jesus Christ. Another similar technique is called “point of contact”. For example, the bare breasted woman suffering in agony before the congregation, of a cancer, for her Joshua stands about 15 feet away, and rubs his chin vigorously, this is evidentially affecting her cancerous breast, by remote control. (See the healing of the woman with a blood problem for years, she only touched Jesus and was healed)

Calling Fire from heaven. Joshua has the power to call fire from heaven upon the body parts of sinning members of his congregation! A woman in the video is seen clutching her private parts in agony, (it seems to the mild amusement of others) as Joshua’s fire cleanses her of the sin. We are told in the book of Revelation that the false prophet calls fire from heaven to the amazement of those under the delusion

Strange beliefs. Joshua has strange beliefs, for example he is a vegetarian because he told an interviewer that many of the people he ministers to in the area of deliverance are “Half fish and half man”. In another interviewer he said that “the divine person” within him can appear to thousands simultaneously, even coming to them in their dreams! This is not Christianity!

Final remarks. In closing, I don’t pretend to know Joshua’s motivation; by all accounts he seems to be a very sincere man. However sincerity is no safeguard against deception. I am sure Edgar Cayce, Jean Dixon and countless other prophets, who by Christian, Biblical standards would have to be regarded as False, were equally sincere and unassuming. There are countless warnings in scripture about the emergence of False Prophets and teachers who, like Pharaohs magicians, withstood and hindered the true gospel by means of signs, wonders and miracles. Just because Joshua seems to be able to produce “results”,” He seems to have the goods”, it doesn’t mean we should go there, for the ends do not justify the means. Even the idea of having to go to Nigeria to receive a healing, or a miracle, or a Word from God, is unscriptural. “Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.” He is as close to us today as our breath, for “Whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved”.

P.S. Moriel Teaching Ministries SA will happily verify these claims by providing access to the video we have cited here today. Any one needing further clarification can contact us at (011) 463 1771 or cell phone 082 657 6854.

A response to Bill’s letter dated 26/2/01 titled: Rebuke of TB Joshua.

The following comment on a paragraph of Bill Randles' letter (the one on remote control) was made by Alistair Mc Donald:

This control in question is called ‘Mesmerism’. Certainly God’s word is true in Ecclesiastes 1:9 “…there is nothing new under the sun.” Franz Anton Mesmer (1734-1815) an Austrian physician termed this ‘animal magnetism’ He believed the human nervous system to be magnetized. He would wave his hands in front of the patient, believing that a magnetic force emanated from his hands. Other actions by Mesmer were laying on of hands or staring fixedly into the patient’s eyes.  These methods enabled him to direct the movements and thoughts of his patients.

‘Mesmerism’ has developed into modern hypnosis. Mesmer has been accredited as the father of hypnosis, as well as the father of the Christian Science church. I believe what brother Bill is commenting on is related to Mesmerism. Mesmer’s patients show similar characteristics of Joshua’s namely uncontrollable laughter, falling into trances, spasmodic jerks, rapid blinking, tears and hiccups.

Mesmer was accredited with many healings through his methods namely fever, partial paralysis and various diseases. Note no patients left behind wooden legs, toupees or glass eyes!

What has happened in the church today is that the watchmen have let the carnival showmen into the House of God. The showmen have entered with bibles in tow, preaching a different Jesus and are gaining masses through their lying signs and wonders.

10 posted on 05/27/2002 9:16:45 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: marshmallow
This reminds me of a news report about a famous tv preacher with a healing ministry. He reported over 70 people healed during some meetings he had on the west coast. When someone asked for proof, he delayed and delayed. Eventually he gave the reporters 3 or 4 names as examples. The reporters investigated and found out that no only has no one been healed. But one of them had died unexpectedly.

When Jesus healed the ten lepers, he told them to present themselves to the High Priest for examination. If someone wants to claim the gift of healing they should at least have the person present themselves to their doctors for examination.

For the record, I do believe that God does heal today, like he did back in Bible times.

11 posted on 05/27/2002 9:20:13 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Sci Fi Guy
Out of curiosity Scifi guy can you name some of these "Modern Miracle Workers" who you do beleive in and some of their noted miracles?
12 posted on 05/27/2002 10:21:01 AM PDT by Rocketman
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To: Rocketman,sci fi guy
Out of curiosity Scifi guy can you name some of these
"Modern Miracle Workers" who you do beleive in and some of their
noted miracles?

Well, he said " I do believe that God does heal today..."
so no modern miracle workers need be cited.  And
it is trivially easy to attribute mundane phenomena
to the god of your choice, inasmuch as proving
otherwise is quite impossible.  The only miracle
you'll see around here today would be something good
happening that is not attributable to God, with the
bad things, of course, being the devil's doing.

13 posted on 05/27/2002 11:48:57 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: sweetliberty
I read the same book most likely.

As I recall from friends at the time, Billy Graham's organization checked those cases out and found the vast majority to be authentic.

14 posted on 05/27/2002 1:16:23 PM PDT by Quix
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To: marshmallow
PERSONALLY, I don't know if this guy is authentic, God driven or not.

Satan The Bible says, will do dramatic at least seemingly miraculous things in the end times as well.

What is the fruit is a key issue. Who gets the Glory is a key issue. Humility is a key issue.

Besides that, God puts up with a lot of nonsense from His snotty nosed immature kids. We probably would do well to sow a charitable attitude given how much we are likely to need one from time to time. . . that doesn't necessarily mean being mindlessly charitable with total lack of discernment, however.

15 posted on 05/27/2002 1:20:03 PM PDT by Quix
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