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Before September 11th, JTF Knew But Bush Didn't?
The Real News ^ | May 28, 2002

Posted on 05/28/2002 12:57:18 PM PDT by majordivit

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To: majordivit
I do not believe that God commands Gentiles to favor the Jews above all others. These articles say that the "test" for Gentiles and America is that we blindly support any and all Jewish endeavors or God will punish them. This is a heretic twisting of God's word for political purpose.

This JTF tags a wide range of people and groups as "Jew-haters/Nazis": Arabs, (insufficiently supportive) Christians, the British, Bolsheviks (who, historically, were well represented by Jews), the Israeli govt, even the ADL. If you're going to complain about being hated, you shouldn't be turning around and hating every Gentile and "self-hating" Jew you can name.
41 posted on 05/28/2002 4:02:02 PM PDT by Deathmonger
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To: majordivit
Well, by golly ! All we would have had to do was shut down all civil avaition from 1994-2001 . Shoot ! Now why didn't anyone think of it ???
42 posted on 05/28/2002 5:01:22 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: mv1
So what is this convicted terrorist's website doing being linked to Free Republic as a main article?

Please tell me your NOT shocked???

43 posted on 05/28/2002 5:31:46 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: majordivit
Why there it is, 8 years ago. How could Bush be so blind? By God those JTF boys are clerics, regular future gazers.
44 posted on 05/28/2002 6:19:54 PM PDT by Rockiesrider
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To: cardinal4
These ain't liberal Jews.
45 posted on 05/28/2002 6:38:32 PM PDT by weikel
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To: majordivit
You don't to be a religious conservative to support Israel no good comes of appeasing our enemies.
46 posted on 05/28/2002 6:46:45 PM PDT by weikel
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To: majordivit
Jonothan Pollard was a hero.

Caspar Weinberger stated that Pollard had single-handedly caused more damage to U.S. security than anyone in history up to that time.

Hm, to whom should I give more credence? A shill for a racist, fascist organization that doesn't give a d*mn about the U.S.A., or this distinguished member of Ronald Reagan's cabinet?

Wow, tough decision!

Not.

47 posted on 05/28/2002 7:39:02 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: majordivit
POINT FOUR: An immediate end to all U.S. foreign aid, including the so-called loans of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Do they really mean we should end all aid to Israel too?

48 posted on 05/29/2002 2:55:04 AM PDT by metesky
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To: majordivit
Here's a clue, dude. I have been as close to some of these Jews as anyone. My mentor was a confidant of Meir Kahane. (Recognize that name?) I can tell you that while on the surface their ideas are right in terms of policy---and I have no argument at all with energy independence---the JTF is in NO WAY concerned with the U.S. or American interests.

They steal military secrets from us, and have no compunction about violating OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS when it is them.

Moreover, the earlier poster has a gigantic point that you glossed over: Israel for years has been VERY left-wing in its policies. It is a socialist state in most respects. Only our religious cultural heritage unites us: but also realize that these same Jews that you tout refer to Gentiles as "cattle" and would BAN all Christians and ANY evangelizing of Jews in Israel by ANY American Christian if they ever came to power. So be careful who you support here. They are with us in the war on terror, but their interests are not our interests.

49 posted on 05/29/2002 4:48:24 AM PDT by LS
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To: majordivit
Perfect. Now you support spying against your own country on the grounds that the Israelis know better than we do.

I think the laws against espionage are clear---it includes our "friends," such as the British before WW II (who were trying to shape American public opinion to get us into war) just as much as it does the Jews' attempts to steal military secrets. This is where I draw a clear line: I am an American, and while I may, according to the Bible, "bless" Israel, I will not stand by and let the Israelis spy with impunity. That is theft, which the Bible also condemns.

50 posted on 05/29/2002 4:56:25 AM PDT by LS
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To: metesky
Do they really mean we should end all aid to Israel too?

Yes. JTF wants America to end all foreign aid, including the welfare aid that goes to Israel. It is harmful to America of course in that we have to pay for it but it is also harmful to Israel. The American money is given to Israeli state owned/controlled companies as welfare which stifles their economy. The Israeli economy needs to move to more of a free market economy. The American money that is given as military assistance also stifles the Israeli free market economy because Israel must purchase American arms with the money instead of developing their own weapons. It's a lose lose for everybody.

51 posted on 05/29/2002 5:37:40 AM PDT by majordivit
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To: Illbay
A shill for a racist, fascist organization that doesn't give a d*mn about the U.S.A., or this distinguished member of Ronald Reagan's cabinet?

I posted this article because I wanted to show that there are people, who in the past predicted 9 11, now predict that unless we take far more serious measures than that which we are currently undertaking, we will get hit again, possible with weapons of mass destruction, G-d forbid.

It's a tough message. Most people don't want to hear it so they attack the messenger.

By the way, this so called racist organization, which I'm assuming you mean anti black, endorced Alan Keyes in the GOP primary for the Presidency of the United States.

52 posted on 05/29/2002 5:56:24 AM PDT by majordivit
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Yes I recognize the name. Rabbi Meir Kahane is the spiritual leader of the Kahanists of JTF. The Kahanist party is outlawed in Israel. The Kahanists want to run for office in Israel but they are not allowed to by the bolshevik un American like regime which controls Israel today.

If the Kahanists wanted to run for office in America they could do it. We still have a constitution. But the Bolshevik regime in Israel can make any pronouncment they wish, in this case outlawing the Kahanists and barring Chaim from entering Israel.

The bolshevik regime says that the Kahanists are a small, insignificant little nothing of a group which would get only 2 or 3 percent of the vote. If that is the case, why not let them run? If they are so insignificant why not let them run. They don't let them run because they know that is a bunch of bull. If the Kahanists ran they would inspire hundreds of thousands of young Israelis and they would pose a real threat to the bolshevik socialist establishment of Israel. And yes, both political parties in Israel are left wing. Labor is a lunatic left wing party and Likud is a phoney conservative party.

53 posted on 05/29/2002 6:08:29 AM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
Ah, you are now ducking the original point, which was that these people are NOT reasonable Israelis, but extreme types who could care less about the U.S. or our interests, and therefore are willing to sacrifice us (even to the point of starting a nuclear war) if it means achieving their ends.
54 posted on 05/29/2002 12:03:46 PM PDT by LS
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