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A few tips on how the experts spot a terrorist
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | from the May 29, 2002 edition | By Ben Lynfield | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 05/31/2002 5:15:12 PM PDT by vannrox

from the May 29, 2002 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0529/p01s03-wome.html

A few tips on how the experts spot a terrorist

Israeli security specialists say US system looks for the weapons while Israeli system looks for the terrorist.

By Ben Lynfield | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

JERUSALEM - For years, a T-shirt has been on sale in downtown Jerusalem that reads: "Don't worry America, Israel is behind you."

It is a slogan whose time has come – at least for the Israeli government, which is translating American post-Sept. 11 security concerns into closer ties with the US, and for Israeli businessmen, who see an opportunity to market their army and secret-service experience.

Israel's Shin Bet security service last week instructed a delegation from the New York Police Department on how to deal with suicide bombings. On Monday, eight senior law enforcement officials from Georgia arrived for a week of lectures, seminars, and scrutiny of an Israeli paramilitary border police unit. The bomb unit of the Los Angeles Police Department was here earlier this month. And Israeli police superintendent Shlomo Aharonishky met two weeks ago in Washington with Chief of Police Charles Ramsey and FBI agents to discuss how to handle suicide bombers.

"There is no question the ties have gotten closer," says Gil Kleiman, an Israeli police spokes-man. "No other law enforcement agency has the experience we have in dealing with terrorism within the constraints of a Western system of law and court systems."

By year's end, Israel will host a convention of police commissioners from across the US, Mr. Kleiman says.

While Israel's security forces are widely reputed to be among the best in the world, not everyone in Israel agrees that the country offers a model of how to reconcile security measures with democracy.

"Palestinian civilians need to prepare for their graves when they approach Israeli checkpoints," says Hashem Mahameed, a member of the Knesset for the left-wing Hadash Party. "I don't think the practices in the West Bank and Gaza are something Americans could take pride in."

But Israeli security specialists say that the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which began in 1967, as well as securing Israeli facilities in the Middle East, Europe, and Africa, have accorded decades of experience which can benefit the US.

For example, they say, Israel has been grappling with how to stop suicide bombers since 1987, when the Iranian-inspired Hizbullah group began bombing Israeli targets in Lebanon.

"We met with people from the World Trade Center who told us that they thought of everything except for an airplane crash," says Shlomo Dror, a security specialist who works with American clients. "I told them that we began thinking in 1983 about the possibility a plane could be hijacked and crashed into the Shalom Tower [in Tel Aviv]."

Mr. Dror was spokesman for the Israeli defense ministry and before that the spokesman for an Israeli government agency responsible for Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. He joined the Shin Bet 23 years ago, after his army service, and has been in charge of security for embassies and El Al airline on three continents.

He was watching television in his office in the Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv on Sept. 11. "When I saw the second plane crashing I knew it was a terrorist attack. It made me realize that the United States is really in need of advice from Israeli professional people."

"Israel has been some kind of laboratory to check how the suicide bombers work, and all the conclusions from our experience can be brought to bear in the United States," he says.

Together with American partners with experience in the marines or CIA, Dror and two Israeli colleagues in January formed New World Security, a New York-based company to offer advice ranging from securing buildings to training travelers on how to protect themselves from kidnapping or abuse.

No figures are available for how many Israelis have gone into security consulting for American clients since Sept. 11, but Zeev Schiff, defense correspondent for the daily newspaper Haaretz, says they are carving out niches in computer security and airport security. "These people have a lot of experience and know the tricks of the other side," he says.

Dror says his company's clients include Wall Street firms and a municipality, but declines to be more specific.

Israeli specialists have a low regard for American security searches. They say they tend to cause unnecessary discomfort for travelers, while being prone to missing potential assailants. "The United States does not have a security system, it has a system for bothering people," Dror says.

"The difference between the Israeli and American systems is that we are looking for the terrorist, while the Americans look for the weapons," he adds.

At the heart of the Israeli system is the questioning of the passenger, which Dror says is done not only to get answers, but also to gauge the passenger's behavior. "The reason we open the suitcase is to have another few minutes with the passenger, to ask some more questions," he says. The questioning also serves as a way to quickly decide who to send to the plane without probing more thoroughly, he adds. Dror advocates Israeli-style security clearances for all workers at the companies for whom he consults. They entail checking a person's history by interviewing acquaintances and family "We check the man himself, not documents."

But Dror adds that Israeli methods, even if fully adopted, will not stop all attacks. "There is no 100 percent in security. If you want 100 percent security on flights, every passenger has to take all his clothes off, have his suitcase checked, and be handcuffed and tied to his seat. For sure this can never be. The idea is to enable people to continue their lives while making an attack less possible."

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1 posted on 05/31/2002 5:15:12 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
. Dror advocates Israeli-style security clearances for all workers at the companies for whom he consults. They entail checking a person's history by interviewing acquaintances and family "We check the man himself, not documents."

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WAKE UP??? Hopefully, we are seeing the beginning of the end of the PC crowd. I only hope it doesn't take another attack and loss of American lives before it's banished for good.

2 posted on 05/31/2002 5:25:33 PM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: vannrox


Terrorist

Not a terrorist

Any Questions?


4 posted on 05/31/2002 5:44:54 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Elkiejg
How long will it take until profiling is again allowed for law enforcement officials?
5 posted on 05/31/2002 5:47:15 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: vannrox
This article is SO VERY important, and expresses precisely what has been on my mind as I travel internationally as well as in the US and compare these differences everytime I go through the pathetic security hoop!! We are, by and large, "keystone cop" in our airport security approach.

This article needs to be read far and wide, and needs to be distributed if need-be to irate/critical fellow travelers at airports while in line or on aircraft whom are beginning to publicly, yet under their breath, voice disgust with the whole sordid approach.

I for one have just about had it with the most recent idiotic incident I was witness to, that of an 80- year-old frail, partially handicapped Chinese woman at a US airport being humiliated, having her shoes taken off, and being barked at in military order style by some gum chewing, overweight black "security" woman from those incompetent indirect murderers, The Argenbright Company.

America's way to do things is NOT always the best in ALL cases; but our naive, nationalcentric, jingo culture may well prevent us from ever correcting the situation, or at least taking note of the importance of news articles like these. That is, until (as noted) we have another US aircraft hijacked in the country by an individual or individuals that would have otherwise been screened out by Israeli-type questioning/profiling, or otherwise not let into the country were it not for the shameless behavior of some dimwit, high school education affirmative-action INS bureaucrat.

Shame on our country. We have it coming again, sad to say. Will we ever wake up and learn from mistakes?

[Log and save article for additional reading after our next disastrous "September 11."]

6 posted on 05/31/2002 5:51:54 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: vannrox
Jeez I can't believe it's really gotten this bad. I had the mistaken hope that security would actually improve.

Is this a stage, or is something terrible going to happen before a move to serious security is made?

7 posted on 05/31/2002 6:01:08 PM PDT by Principled
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To: vannrox
"The difference between the Israeli and American systems is that we are looking for the terrorist, while the Americans look for the weapons," he adds.

I am reminded of all the gun-control nuts who devote their lives to a crusade against guns, but never seem all that concerned with catching or locking up criminals.

8 posted on 05/31/2002 6:27:08 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: VOA, MarkT; Sinkspur
Some foreign insights to our airport security here.
9 posted on 05/31/2002 6:36:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy;ALOHA RONNIE
"We met with people from the World Trade Center who told us that they thought of everything
except for an airplane crash," says Shlomo Dror, a security specialist who works
with American clients.
"I told them that we began thinking in 1983 about the possibility a plane could be
hijacked and crashed into the Shalom Tower [in Tel Aviv]."


Rick Rescorla, a security chief for Morgan Stanley at the WTC, had it figured out.
That's why he got the thousands of Morgan Stanley personnel (except for himself
and about 7 other employees) out of his WTC tower while the intercom was telling occupants
of the building that everything was "under control".
After the first strike, he know it was just what he'd predicted...a terrorist attack
from the air.

Too, too bad Rescorla didn't make it out.
He would have made a Congressional witness that even surpasses Oliver North...
I'd love to have seen the reknowned Vietnam vet, holder of a law degree, former
criminology professor, Morgan-Stanley security officer, and protstate cancer survivor
dismantle Daschle, Leahy, Lieberman, Rodham-Clinton, Carnahan, Gephardt, McKinney,
and the other members of The Party Of Fools on national television...
(Heck, he'd probably have reformed the FBI and CIA by now if he'd survived!)
10 posted on 05/31/2002 6:56:48 PM PDT by VOA
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To: vannrox
The FBI pamphlet I saw says that anyone who refers to our Constitution frenquently is considered a terrorist.

Welcome to prewar Germany, I mean America........

11 posted on 05/31/2002 7:04:33 PM PDT by Eustace
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To: Eustace
The FBI pamphlet I saw says that anyone who refers to our Constitution frenquently is considered a terrorist.

Uh...oh... I'm in the Constitution Party. We all talk about the constitution.

12 posted on 05/31/2002 7:30:39 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: VOA;Fred Mertz
...RICK RESCORLA goes down just when America needs him the most =

...Decades-Long Friends of Terrorists ..HILLARY RODHAM -&- BILL CLINTON jump forward 2 paces.

13 posted on 05/31/2002 10:05:58 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Elkiejg
I son't see us ending the age of PC. In fact, it appears stronger than ever with the leftists and some on the other side complaining that the pow's aren't being given steak and caviar for dinner in the detainee camps. There are also all of those voices still saying we can't profile, which just defies sanity in my opinion!
PC is going to get us all killed and it can't disappear too soon for me.
14 posted on 05/31/2002 10:12:39 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Elkiejg
Maybe we'll wake up when we get hit harder than 9/11. I've heard many a time here and elsewhere that it seems we didn't get hit "hard enough" to shut the PC-crowd up. Which is painfully evident. Even Congress doesn't act like we're at war, I assume because they didn't "declare" it? Our law enforcement agencies need to profile, for obvious reasons.

Mrs Kus

15 posted on 05/31/2002 11:03:51 PM PDT by cgk
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To: RightWhale
How long will it take until profiling is again allowed for law enforcement officials?

It can't come none too soon. We need profiling. NOW.

The PC crowd will get us killed, I am convinced, sadly.

I wished there were more we could do.

16 posted on 05/31/2002 11:23:29 PM PDT by kstewskis
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To: vannrox
Great post, will forward to EVERYONE nationwide... thanks.
17 posted on 06/01/2002 12:22:24 AM PDT by Terridan
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To: vannrox
America has targeted indirect tactics as a strategy for so long that we now confuse the direct enemy as only having indirect influence.

We confuse a gun for an enemy, while we consider the murderer simply as an extension of the gun.

We confuse a political agenda as an enemy, while we consider terrorists merely extensions of foreign agendas.

The Terrorists and murderers are the Direct Threat. They are building themselves into institutions bred within American society which chooses to aloofly remain unarmed an unalarmed. Even when a first wave is destroyed, even a self-chosen destruction implicit in suicide terror, the institutions will continue to flow more terror.

Which is more evil, the suicide bombers or the institutions melded into our social fabric which obscure their organization?

Consider the following predicament. 4-6 men of Middle eastern origin, exhibiting cultural patterns of new immigrant or visa status, flash money and buy land adjacent to US military bases, exhibiting fervid desire for a particular area where little competition exists. When reported to authorities, generally younger officers and intelligence networks, the report is met with mediocre acceptance. An attitude prevails in which the issue is immaterial because no crime is committed and even discussing the issue implies one must be either a bigot or needs to 'get over it'.

Now compare this rather common current sentiment with what one feels when they study about the attack on Pearl Harbor. Do most Americans today sincerely believe the radar operators and chain of command at lower echelons in Hawaii, that fateful day in Dec, 1941, were sincerely acting appropriately and justifiably so, when no alert was passed to the Fleet prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor?

There seems to be a tremendous irony here contradicting all common sense.

We need to continue to quantify and qualify the threat. We need to see more reporting from the government to the people as to the identity of the threat. Let the people decide how to lead events to protect ourselves. Too many people in positions of leadership simply have fallen to a lust of control rather than serving the public. They act with good intentions, but are creating an environment which actually promotes the flavor of terror without realizing their actions are encouraging the trend.

18 posted on 06/01/2002 3:17:50 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: vannrox
We can all help identify these folks driving on the highway.

Their training manual tells them not to break the law so as to avoid the attention of the police.

Therefore, any 18 wheeler doing 55mph has got to be one of them. Going uphill does not count.

On a serious note, though, I really hate the word "terrorist." They are thugs, punks, boy bitches, murderers, and a lot of other things, but none of them cause me to loose a second of sleep. My daughters still travel the world. One's job takes her to the Carribean, South America, South E. Asia, and Africa. They too are unafraid. There are, after all, worse things than death. Life afraid of your own shadow springs to mind.

Our airport non security was recently best exemplified by the ever sharp, affirmative action hired, non American, high school drop out screener who recently did not allow one of our soldiers ~ home on medical leave, his jaw wired together from a face wound in Afghan ~ because he had wire snips in case he began to choke.

Someone should have choked the screener.

19 posted on 06/01/2002 3:39:52 AM PDT by coalminer
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To: RightWhale
How long will it take until profiling is again allowed for law enforcement officials?

But...but...that might hurt someone's feelings.

20 posted on 06/01/2002 4:05:52 AM PDT by Samwise
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To: Redcloak


Terrorist

Not a terrorist

Good Terrorist

Any Questions?

Some grannies are more versatile than others. Golda, for instance, was reputed to be as good at baking cookies as at commissioning the assassination of Black Septembrists all across Europe!

21 posted on 06/01/2002 4:17:40 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: vannrox
They met withDC's BEST, Charles Ramsey! Egads! Run, Isaelis.....as fast as you can.
22 posted on 06/01/2002 4:43:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Redcloak
Reference your post # 4.

Going through a airport checkpoint in the U.S., which one of the two will be waved through and which one will be body cavity searched?

My money is on number 1 being waved throufh and number 2 getting the body cavity search.

23 posted on 06/01/2002 4:48:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: vannrox
Terrorists want to control others. So I'd check the voter registration cards. All Republicans, Constituionalists, and Libetarians would get a pass.

The remaining folks would be a mix of Hollywood movie stars, gullible folks, and terrorists.

Then I'd offer free ice creme to the remainder and narrow it down to Hollywood movie stars and terrorists.

Wahl-lah !!!

24 posted on 06/01/2002 4:55:15 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: cgk
Even Congress doesn't act like we're at war, I assume because they didn't "declare" it?
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
Just another "Police Action".
Time frame? What time frame?
Authorization for Use of Military Force
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

War Powers Resolution
SEC. 5. (b) Within sixty calendar days after a report is submitted or is required to be submitted pursuant to section 4(a)(1), whichever is earlier, the President shall terminate any use of United States Armed Forces with respect to which such report was submitted (or required to be submitted), unless the Congress (1) has declared war or has enacted a specific authorization for such use of United States Armed Forces, (2) has extended by law such sixty-day period, or (3) is physically unable to meet as a result of an armed attack upon the United States. Such sixty-day period shall be extended for not more than an additional thirty days if the President determines and certifies to the Congress in writing that unavoidable military necessity respecting the safety of United States Armed Forces requires the continued use of such armed forces in the course of bringing about a prompt removal of such forces.

SEC. 8. (a) Authority to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations wherein involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances shall not be inferred--

(1) from any provision of law (whether or not in effect before the date of the enactment of this joint resolution), including any provision contained in any appropriation Act, unless such provision specifically authorizes the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into such situations and stating that it is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of this joint resolution; or

25 posted on 06/01/2002 5:09:20 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: vannrox
At the heart of the Israeli system is the questioning of the passenger, which Dror says is done not only to get answers, but also to gauge the passenger's behavior.

When I was in Frankfurt, Germany, two years ago, I received this treatment going through security. The screener held my passport and began asking me questions regarding my trip. He held the passport opened and occassional glanced at it, but most of the time he just looked me directly in the eye. Do you know how uncomfortable that is? Germany takes airport security very seriously!

26 posted on 06/01/2002 5:15:48 AM PDT by unbiasedtruth
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To: vannrox
"The United States does not have a security system, it has a system for bothering people,"

Yep.

27 posted on 06/01/2002 5:32:38 AM PDT by csvset
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To: vannrox
Put actor James Woods in charge...he did a better job than the entire US intelligence and security community.
28 posted on 06/01/2002 5:44:45 AM PDT by xp38
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To: vannrox
"The difference between the Israeli and American systems is...the CLU
29 posted on 06/01/2002 5:53:19 AM PDT by ivanhoe116
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To: ex con; vannrox
yep, never can tell when one of your loser towel head buddies will decide to blow himself up.

Gee, I could say that the Palestinian suicide HOMICIDE bombers aren't people but are more like wild animals,
but that would be a high insult to animals everywhere...........


Chairman Arafat

Mark Steyn Link Excerpt:

Just as revealing was the reaction from the European media. In the American press, you read things like: "An observer to the bomb-blast scene described a dead young girl, perhaps 10 or 12, lying on the ground with her eyes open, looking as if she was surprised." For Europe, on the other hand, the main significance of this development was that it was "unhelpful" to the "peace process". Before I'm accused of being more upset about dead Jewish than dead Muslim kids, let me say that I take people at their own estimation: in the Palestinian Authority schools, they teach their children about the glories of martyrdom; indeed, the careers guidance counsellor appears to have little information on alternative employment prospects; at social events, the moppets are dressed up as junior jihadi, with toy detonators and play bombs. It's not that I place less value on Palestinian lives, but that Chairman Arafat and his chums in Hamas do. So does Saddam Hussein, whose government (the subject of an admiring article in this week's Spectator) gives $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian suicide bomber. So does the Arab League, which at last year's summit passed a resolution hailing the "spirit of sacrifice" of the Palestinian "martyrs" and thus licensed Wednesday's massacre. As for the "peace process", those Europeans who, just a few months ago, were urging the Americans to cease operations for Ramadan evidently feel no compunction to demand from Chairman Arafat and his dark subsidiaries any similar "bombing pause" for Passover.

In the days after September 11, we were told that Muslims had great respect for their fellow "people of the book" - ie, Jews and Christians. This ought to be so: after all, the dramatis personae of the Koran include Abraham, Moses, David, John the Baptist, Jesus and the Virgin Mary. It's one thing to believe that the Israelis are occupiers and oppressors and that the Zionist state should not exist. But no Muslim with any understanding of his shared heritage could in good conscience blow up a Passover Seder. It marks a new low in the Palestinians' descent into nihilism - though, as usual, the silence of the imams is deafening. As for the nonchalance of the Europeans, that too should not surprise us: in my experience, the Continent's Christians, practising and nominal, find the ceremonies of Jewish life faintly creepy, notwithstanding that these were also the rituals by which their own Saviour lived.

But this year, when the Christians' solar calendar and the Jews' lunar calendar have coincided and Easter and Passover fall together, it's a safe bet that George W Bush will make the connection. The first time I ever heard him speak, he spoke openly about his faith and about Christ in a way that would be unimaginable for a British politician. He will know all the details - "the baby tried to crawl away, but it died, too".......................

30 posted on 06/01/2002 5:59:38 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ex con; vannrox
Before I'm accused of being more upset about dead Jewish than dead Muslim kids, let me say that I take people at their own estimation: in the Palestinian Authority schools, they teach their children about the glories of martyrdom; indeed, the careers guidance counsellor appears to have little information on alternative employment prospects; at social events, the moppets are dressed up as junior jihadi, with toy detonators and play bombs.





31 posted on 06/01/2002 6:00:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: xp38


32 posted on 06/01/2002 6:01:20 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ivanhoe116


33 posted on 06/01/2002 6:03:12 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ex con; All
S.I.C.K.: Stop Inciting Children to Kill
http://www.operationsick.com/
34 posted on 06/01/2002 6:04:23 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Cvengr
Re your Post #18

Well said and right on target. What should we as citizens be doing to protect ourselves and our families now (given the fact the government has not and will not)?

35 posted on 06/01/2002 6:38:47 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: vannrox
Israeli specialists have a low regard for American security searches... "The United States does not have a security system, it has a system for bothering people," Dror says.

This needs repeating over and over again!

36 posted on 06/01/2002 7:51:18 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: MeeknMing;Tree of Liberty; rightwing2; right_to_defend; Cincinatus' Wife; Servant of the Nine...

Bump for wider distribution.
And a Call for your comments.
Is there some way that we can get this post uploaded to our "Representatives" in Congress? Any Ideas?


37 posted on 06/01/2002 8:18:00 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: Ahban
I have a copy of the pamphlet, but I don't know how to enter it here.

Anyone who believes in America fits their description of a potential terrorist.

Defenders of the Constitution against the federal government

Anyone who refers to the Constitution frenquently

Loners

Certain religious groups.

You really have to watch out for those extreme Christians you know.

That's right the FBI is watching them, we don't have anything to worry about.

Just a side note. You notice how when you read replies sent to you that after you open them they change color so you know you have already seen them. For over a year now many of the replies sent to me, have already been read.

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.

38 posted on 06/01/2002 8:19:35 AM PDT by Eustace
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To: cynwoody
Assassinating terrorists is not terrorism; it's good government in action. We need that here rather than idiots at airports harassing grannies.
39 posted on 06/01/2002 8:23:11 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: vannrox
Some of our Congress critters already know how to spot a terrorist, they can identify them from their political donations list.
40 posted on 06/01/2002 8:57:32 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: vannrox; Travis McGee
PC? Not likely! Actually, Iif traveling cross country or overseas, El Al seems like the safest way to go. Of course the minimum wage non english speaking "screeners" in every airport will have to go. We do have a nice large pool of retired SF guys that would be excellent candidates IMHO. :-) I would be happy with a SEAL or Green Beanie or Force Recon as a first line of defense!
41 posted on 06/01/2002 9:44:06 AM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Eustace
I have that pamphlet also. Looks like the FBI is also going after all the Civilian Review Boards established across the country to "police the police". How dare those citizens question the motovies of the police. They must be terrorists.

"You notice how when you read replies sent to you that after you open them they change color so you know you have already seen them. For over a year now many of the replies sent to me, have already been read"

Your browser is what changes the color of the links. The color the link is changed to can be forced by the browser, or left up to the author of the document using specific HTML tags for that purpose.

I've not experienced what you describe. Does anyone else use your computer or have you reinstalled or upgraded anything that might have reset some custom selections you made earlier?

42 posted on 06/01/2002 9:50:57 AM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: xp38
"Put actor James Woods in charge..."

Let's not take any chances -- Corky Romano is my man in charge of Homeland Security.

43 posted on 06/01/2002 9:55:24 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: vannrox
The following link was up and usable last week. I just tried it and it is not working. It may be a temporary condition. It is a batch mailing bot that links to all House and Senate emailboxes. Give it a shot.

http://mailblasterdot.com/mbbatch.htm

44 posted on 06/01/2002 10:31:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: vannrox
"At the heart of the Israeli system is the questioning of the passenger, which Dror says is done not only to get answers, but also to gauge the passenger's behavior. "The reason we open the suitcase is to have another few minutes with the passenger, to ask some more questions," he says."

U.S. Customs has been using this technique for decades. It was a big part of my training when I worked Military Customs in Rota, Spain. What a comedy of errors that one end of the terminal is profiling people (for contraband) getting off the plane, while the other side is letting those who should be profiled (for attempting murder) get on the plane.

45 posted on 06/01/2002 1:11:47 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: vannrox
I have a sense that without wide bi-partisan support from national leadership and all three branches of the government, profiling would be impossible to implement given today's socio-political climate. In other words, protesters would have to be shouted down, shamed into silence. What are the chances of seeing that? Look at the recent tempest in a teacup created when some clothing firm dared to produce T-shirts saying something like "Two Wongs Will Make it White!" A national scandal it was for a week or so!

I think that these days we Americans would rather die than to appear unfair. Unfair, yes that's the word. We have an exaggerated sense of fairness and believe that perfect fairness and perfect justice are achieveable in this world. Better 100 murderers go free than one wrongly accused man be imprisoned, we say?! (Well, talk to one Gerald Amirault about that piece of national wisdom.)

46 posted on 06/01/2002 1:22:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Revolting cat!
To continue, the stated aim of the current security system is of course to catch or deter potential terrorists, not just to bother people. We the people, i.e. our elected representatives, want to achieve this aim in an absolutely, perfectly fair way. As we are seeing, the perfectly fair way is to be unfair to everyone, infants, grannies, war heroes included. Everyone suffers equally and to the sheeple that appears to represent the closest thing to that reachable perfect fairness.

This is no different than norming educational test scores to achieve the same outcome for everyone regardless of cultural background. No different than affirmative action, no different than literary or movie awards to half-wits, no different than standing ovations for a no talent like Whoopie Goldberg wherever she goes. Why, she's suffered enough, first as a slave, then in the death camps of the Holocaust and finally in the back of a bus! The airport security measures in this country can't help but reflect the past 30 years of our absurd history.

47 posted on 06/01/2002 1:44:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: vannrox; psyops; Colorado Tanker; Libertina; pissed off janitor; happygrl;Dennisw;sjackson...
I'm so ashamed its been this long before we went to our Israeli Allies for help on Wascally Wahhabi spotting...I know the weather is nice and by all means sniff the flowers my Freepers, but take a moment and digest this...I was so dismayed by an article in the Seattle times about 5 years ago that an FBI agent described all attendees at a Survival Exposition at the Seattle Center as Terrorists...He even said he feared the one table there that was selling blowguns. Nobody mentioned all the home canning tables and Seed packets and Flour grinders and flashlights and first aid kits...Everybody that attended was a TERRORIST... I wrote the agent...Would have been glad to talk to him face to face, My feelings were hurt! People that don't trust aspects of our government are not TERRORISTS...People who build bombs and plot to attack government buildings are terrorists...People that want to home school and keep a gun on the premises are NOT terrorists...end of rant...Freep this thread, please...Double Ping, Important message! Have a Great Weekend, people!


48 posted on 06/01/2002 2:12:55 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Washington_minuteman
I know next to nothing about computers. Not all replies sent to me are different colors though. They come blue as I assume everyones does, and after I open it, it becomes purple. Some are purple before I ever read them.

Dissidents beware, as America becomes prewar Germany......

49 posted on 06/01/2002 6:48:21 PM PDT by Eustace
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To: Eustace
If the thread title is the part that's coming up purple, like this:
A few tips on how the experts spot a terrorist
That's just means the thread's been looked at.

Watch the numbers as in:
On News/Activism ^ Jun 1 6:48 PM #49 of 49 ^
the individual posting numbers will change color also. Blue for an unred post, and purple for one that's been read.

This part: "Dissidents beware, as America becomes prewar Germany......", I'm in full agreement with you. Take care.

50 posted on 06/01/2002 8:01:29 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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