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THE PECULIAR DUPLICITY OF ARI FLEISCHER
The New Republic ^ | Post date 05.30.02 | Issue date 06.10.02 | Jonathon Chait

Posted on 05/31/2002 11:07:59 PM PDT by Gladwin

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1 posted on 05/31/2002 11:07:59 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: Gladwin
Bump for Ari.
2 posted on 05/31/2002 11:17:04 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Gladwin
"Forgetting my line of questioning, I frantically tried to recall how it was I knew that Archer had advocated a sales tax. But in the face of this confident assertion, my mind went blank. "Wha ... uh, really?" I stammered."

Pardon me, but I'm already laughing so hard that I can't even finish reading the article. Are people really paid to write this tripe? And then they attempt to smear Ari by starting with the premise, "I'm really too stupid for his intellect!"

3 posted on 05/31/2002 11:25:06 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter
And then they attempt to smear Ari by starting with the premise, "I'm really too stupid for his intellect!"

Except, of course, he doesn't start with that at all. He starts with the premise that Ari Fleischer lies. It doesn't really take any intellect to deny known facts (and what he was denying turned out to be just that).

4 posted on 05/31/2002 11:58:10 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
this piece is chit on a wall...meaning this time it's Ari...If Ari's bruises,they hit again,if not.....next. "They" hate Dubya pure and simple......Clinton had the "THIRD WAY" all sewed up with Hillery in wait to close the deal.......ain't happenin' and it's killing ole CHRISSY SQUAT TO PEE MATTHEWS.....
5 posted on 06/01/2002 12:09:05 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: A.J.Armitage
"He simply denies its premises--or refuses to answer it on the grounds that it conflicts with a Byzantine set of rules governing what questions he deems appropriate"

Oh no, this is my favorite part! Because this is what, at base, has the press an absolute snit about this administration. This is from the Rummy rules of press conferences. Why address a question, when the premise is a lie? But I'm still not finished laughing at this piece!

6 posted on 06/01/2002 12:15:14 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A.J.Armitage
He starts with the premise that Ari Fleischer lies.

Wow, the rest of them, the author of this bullshit article included, are just boy-scouts and always give up their seats on a bus to elderly passengers!

7 posted on 06/01/2002 12:30:44 AM PDT by Neophyte
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To: Gladwin
This is too funny ! Ari must have really embarassed Chait!
8 posted on 06/01/2002 12:31:51 AM PDT by weepnomore
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To: Neophyte
And, as a matter of fact, were we not asked not to waste space with the Red rantings on this - conservative - forum?
9 posted on 06/01/2002 12:33:03 AM PDT by Neophyte
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To: cactusSharp
Lay off the glue sniffing.
10 posted on 06/01/2002 12:56:14 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I guess now I'm going to be the target of your running commentary about how all this is really the marks of greatness.

Here are a few "normal person" clues for you: lying isn't the sign of great intellect. You aren't doing Ari Fleicher any favors. You seem to think that anything done by a Bushie is great because, well... it's done by a Bushie! What more do you want? But for normal people, if this article is true, he's a little weasel and nothing more.

Now be honest: if this was Bill Clinton's press secretary, you'd be reading it in a different light, wouldn't you?

11 posted on 06/01/2002 1:04:57 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: Gladwin
After about six paragraphs, I quit reading this.

It is pure b.s. Despite the liberal bias, the New Republic usually does much better than this.

Ari is very, very good at what he does.

He also has a tendency to get stressed out (remember when he passed out last summer while speaking last summer at a graduation ceremony?), and he also has a tendency to be defensive.

More of the "let's drag down the current adminstration" effort, that's all.

12 posted on 06/01/2002 1:17:31 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Gladwin;all
More from Mr. Chait:

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13 posted on 06/01/2002 1:55:47 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: glorygirl
I got about as far as you did and tired of the whining noise in my head. If you want a plain answer to a direct question then don't ask a press secretary. They are paid to avoid incoming bombs lobbed by the "objective" media corps. This idiot knows that better than you and I.
14 posted on 06/01/2002 2:11:33 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: backhoe
"As a result of an attempt to push the parties beyond where they were willing to go, that led to expectations that were raised to such a high level that it turned to violence."

In my opinion, this was a subjective statement, not a lie, and Ari should have stuck to it rather than backtracking.

At the conclusion of the peace talks in July, 2000, Arafat warned he would be prepared for war by September if no agreement was in place by that time.

And Ariel Sharon did visit the Temple Mount in September, under circumstances he knew would anger the Palestinians.

Let's not fight the war on this thread, please.

The point is, Ari was NOT wrong. He might not have been entirely in the right, but it was NOT a lie.

15 posted on 06/01/2002 2:23:31 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: BlueAngel
yea ..... go Ari

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16 posted on 06/01/2002 2:37:47 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Gladwin
A BS artist is a BS artist, I don't care what President he's working for. If the weasels in the press had any spines or sense, they'd just boycott these events until somebody put up a different suit that was capable of a straight answer. Not only is A.F. a weasel, but he's the only sure cure for insomnia I've ever heard.
17 posted on 06/01/2002 2:56:59 AM PDT by agitator
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To: Gladwin
bump
18 posted on 06/01/2002 8:53:23 AM PDT by Gladwin
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To: Neophyte
After the honesty and transparency of the Clinton administration,
I am just shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.

Hehe. Keep up the good work GW.

19 posted on 06/01/2002 8:58:09 AM PDT by tet68
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To: backhoe
Jonathan Chait

Jonathan Chait, a senior editor at The New Republic writes about the policy and politics of taxes, health care reform, the federal budget, and many other issues. He has been with the magazine since 1995, previously as a staff writer and reporter researcher.

After graduating from the University of Michigan in 1994, Chait was an assistant editor at the American Prospect before joining TNR. His writing has also appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Slate and Reason.

He resides in Washington, D.C.

20 posted on 06/01/2002 11:14:08 AM PDT by Gladwin
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