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INS APPREHENSION INFORMATION
Marine Inspector ^ | 06/01/2002 | Marine Inspector

Posted on 06/01/2002 12:51:01 PM PDT by Marine Inspector

INS APPREHENSION INFORMATION


Date Range: 09/12/2001 To 05/31/2002

Since September 11th, the INS has apprehended 796,383 illegal aliens attempting to enter the US, or already inside the US.

Some of these apprehensions are what we call recidivist apprehensions (person apprehended more than once in the reporting period).

First we will subtract the recidivist apprehensions from the total apprehensions. 796,383 - 305,880 = 490,503.

This gives our base figure of apprehensions. This figure is not 100% accurate, as some apprehensions go unreported and some of the recidivist hits may be the same person several times over.

So, since September 11th, the INS apprehended approximately 490,503 illegal aliens either attempting to enter the US, or already in the US.

The Border Patrol estimates that they apprehend only 20% of the illegals crossing into the United States. That means 4 illegals get through for every one apprehended.

Independent Immigration experts estimate that the Border Patrol apprehends only 10% of the illegals crossing into the United States. That means 9 illegals get through for every one apprehension.

For this presentation, I will use the INS estimate of 20%.

So, if the INS apprehended 490,503 illegal aliens since September 11th, the number of illegals that made it into the United States undetected would be approximately 1,962,012, although it could be as high as 4,414,527.

Now for some more disturbing figures.

US and Allied troops that invaded Normandy in 1944 = 250,000+
US troops that invaded Okinawa in 1945 = 550,000+
Illegal aliens that have invaded the United States since September 11th = 1,962,012+

This is an average of over 7,488 illegal aliens entering the United States undetected daily and it could be as high as 16,849 daily.

Now for the scary numbers.

The INS has apprehended over 500 people from known terrorist countries, attempting to enter the United States since September 11th.

Using the same calculations as above, it is possible that over 2,000 people from known terrorist countries have illegally entered the United States, undetected, since September 11th.

Who are they and where are they?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: immigrantlist
Just food for thought.
1 posted on 06/01/2002 12:51:01 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: sonofliberty2;tancredo fan;PsyOp;infowars;
Updated numbers
2 posted on 06/01/2002 12:53:40 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Using the same calculations as above, it is possible that over 2,000 people from known terrorist countries have illegally entered the United States, undetected, since September 11th.

With the INS's track record, it wouldn't surprise me if this figure was low. With a good portion of the U.S.'s security in the INS's hands, this is quite scary indeed!

3 posted on 06/01/2002 12:55:03 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra
The number may very well be low, but on the other it could high also. The majority of the folks crossing the border are from Mexico and even though we have apprehended over 500 people from Middle Eastern countries, it is impossible to guess the nationality of the ones that get through.

It is possible that these were the only ones, but it is unlikely.

Also, remember that the problems with the INS are with management and the past and current immigration policy, not the troops in the field.

4 posted on 06/01/2002 1:04:44 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
When you consider that illegals are sending between $6 and $9 BILLION south to the Mexican economy each year, no wonder President Fox insists that borders (south to north, not north to south, of course) be open.

And soon, very soon, if not in the next few months then definitely soon after the November elections, President Bush is going to be pushing strongly for 245(i) Amnesty for Illegals.
5 posted on 06/01/2002 1:19:12 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Marine Inspector
Bad as this, it's not the entire picture.

One more cause for conceren is the fact of so many foreign nationals working in our foreign embassies who expedite passports and visas for who knows what terrorist and spy.

The enemy is potentially within our own gates, with SECURITY CLEARANCES, no less!

6 posted on 06/01/2002 1:23:56 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Allegra
It is low. As a person tasked with actually hunting these people on the border, I have to laugh whenever I see that only four get away for every one that is caught. That is pure bullsh*t. We keep track of the number of people that get away along the border. I have seen tangible evidence that the number of aliens getting away is far higher than 4 to 1. When we catch 100 aliens in a specific area, yet there are a thousand unaccounted footprints in the sand we can surmise that a thousand people got away.
7 posted on 06/01/2002 1:34:33 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin, Marine Inspector
When we catch 100 aliens in a specific area, yet there are a thousand unaccounted footprints in the sand we can surmise that a thousand people got away.

Believe me, I know it's the beauracracy that is causing the ineffectiveness of the INS to apprehend illegals. I respect you guys in the field and empathize with your frustration due to weak support from the hierarchy. It needs fixin' and it needs fixin' bad.

8 posted on 06/01/2002 1:42:46 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Marine Inspector
I have a good one for ya. I 've just been detailed to Eureka, Montana to patrol the Canadian Border. While at work my buddy brought up an interesting point. On the southern border, when the Border Patrol apprehends a Guatamalan, the US foots the bill to ship him back to his country. When the Canadians apprehend a Guatamalan they turn him over to the US, so we can foot the bill to send him back to his country. Isn't that nice.
9 posted on 06/01/2002 1:43:43 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: TomGuy
You got that right.
10 posted on 06/01/2002 1:45:33 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Ajnin
LOL.

Unbelievable.

11 posted on 06/01/2002 1:47:51 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: nightdriver
We have American consular officers that hand out visas at our Embassies. Of course, that may not mean anything.
12 posted on 06/01/2002 1:48:04 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: nightdriver;ajnin
All passports and visa are approved and issued by US citizens. While there are foreign nationals at the Embassies, some with clearances, they do not approve the passport or visa.

You beat my to the punch Ajnin.

13 posted on 06/01/2002 2:00:40 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: *Immigrant_list;madfly
*Index Bump and fyi
14 posted on 06/01/2002 2:23:34 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Marine Inspector
Yeah, that was an easy one. I used to work for the Consular General in Cairo. I was constantly amused watching the Marines forcibly remove people from the office. It seemed like it happened on a weekly basis.
15 posted on 06/01/2002 2:37:41 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin
That was the best part of the job. Tossing people out on their butts.
16 posted on 06/01/2002 3:20:48 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Ajnin
And I'm sure along with these visas and consular matriclua's and bennies, we present them with an english/spanish copy of our Great Constitution and info on attending classes on citizenship. Or is the new Constitution still being printed up.
17 posted on 06/01/2002 3:31:17 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Sauropod,blackie;Jeff Head;1234; E.G.C.; DLfromthedesert; Eustace; gubamyster; hedgetrimmer...
Ping
18 posted on 06/01/2002 3:37:06 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Marine Inspector
Your figures reveal your agenda...

I notice you left out the info on how many of our newest Illegals are future Republicans... Why was that?

Seriously, just be patient, and President Bush will come up with a solution we're all proud of.

No, seriously.



19 posted on 06/01/2002 3:44:29 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: 4Freedom
PING
20 posted on 06/01/2002 3:48:27 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Your figures reveal your agenda...

What agenda is that?

I notice you left out the info on how many of our newest Illegals are future Republicans... Why was that?

I don't know how many will be future Republicans. I'd guess, that maybe one or two might, but not much more.

21 posted on 06/01/2002 3:51:15 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector

I was being facetious.

It kinda boggles my mind how those who defend President Bush's (at best) do-nothing approach on Illegals generally make these points:

1. It's pretty much impossible to get rid of the Illegals that are already here, but...

2. They themselves are against Illegals and Amnesty, and...

3. They're sure the President is too, so...

4. If we're just more patient (you know, those of us who actually live in the Southwest and have to deal with the full scope of the problem), the President will come up with the perfect plan to get rid of the Illegals, if...

5. We just win back the Senate, nevermind...

6. That we said at #1 that deportation is unlikely now so fugeddaboutit anyway after Bush lets in millions more.

All clear?



At least the press will be nice to us, right?

22 posted on 06/01/2002 4:02:40 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Marine Inspector; Victoria Delsoul; Pelham; Travis McGee; Joe Hadenuf; sarcasm; harpseal...
(((ping))))


23 posted on 06/01/2002 4:03:49 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Marine Inspector
Thanks for the 'Ping'.

We need those 30-foot-tall walls on the borders pronto, amigo.

Anyone that can pole vault over the walls can stay and join our Olympic Team. Everybody else has to wait their turn to enter, LEGALLY. ;^)

24 posted on 06/01/2002 4:05:38 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Marine Inspector
Thanks Much MI for your insider analysis of the staggering flow of illegal aliens that are pouring into America from all corners of the world. Your report is chilling in every aspect.
25 posted on 06/01/2002 4:10:39 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Sabertooth
That's what I though, but I was not sure.

It's been a long day.

26 posted on 06/01/2002 4:10:46 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Also, remember that the problems with the INS are with management and the past and current immigration policy, not the troops in the field.

Same thing with the FBI.

27 posted on 06/01/2002 4:33:28 PM PDT by Aim small miss small
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To: Aim small miss small
It's probably the same with all agencies. The grunt get slammed for trying to work for a dysfunctional manager and outdated policy.

Although, every agency does have a few idiots in the field.

28 posted on 06/01/2002 5:18:17 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Definitely food for thought. This is based on your own observations at work, I suppose.
29 posted on 06/01/2002 5:22:45 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
This is based on actual apprehension numbers.
30 posted on 06/01/2002 5:27:26 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Yep, the Marshall's service has more than a few.
31 posted on 06/01/2002 5:29:10 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: freedomfriend
ping
32 posted on 06/01/2002 5:47:07 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: madfly
Yep, that Canadian border is one long mother...I heard there's one BP officer for every 300 miles...not a pretty picture unless you're a terrorist... :o)

Support The Troop's...!!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

33 posted on 06/01/2002 5:55:04 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Marine Inspector
I sent this eye-opening article to my "Senators" from California (Feinstein & Boxer), and asked them what legislation they were going to introduce that would begin to solve this huge problem. I'll let everyone know if I hear from either of them (doubtful).
34 posted on 06/01/2002 5:56:09 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
The problem is that they won't see a problem.
35 posted on 06/01/2002 6:18:43 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: janetgreen
I'll send it to McCain and Kyl and see what happens.
36 posted on 06/01/2002 6:20:17 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth; Marine Inspector
bump!
37 posted on 06/01/2002 6:21:51 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: madfly
I read a book by Larry Wayne Harris, a licensed microbiologist. He says he helped train the Iraqi's in chemical warfare when Iran was our "enemy".

This was over two years ago and Larry said there were already onehundred "Pods" in America ready to rehydrate and disperse anthrax virus.

A pod consists of one woman who will rehydrate the anthrax virus and ten men who will disperse it.

The only antidote company for Anthrax was bought out by a man who to me sounds middle eastern. He has changed the recipe of the vaccine which hasn't been tested by the FDA. This is the vaccine that military people have refused to take in favor of an article 15, because it has made some people very sick.

The anthrax virus used very ineffectively here in America was reported as crude at first. But now it comes out the it was an excellent grade which was small enough to leak out of the pores of envelopes. Something probably created in America.

In his book Larry also claims that people have been stopped at our north and south borders with fleas infected with bubonic plauge.

A show I saw on natural poisons said saddam had enough bombs with botulism (not sure on spelling)to destroy the world three or four times over.

How can we win when our own government trains and arms people before they label them enemies. It appears to me that our government is not responsible with the power it has been given.

And makes immigrants more welcome then the American's who fund the "lousy" welfare system that the immigrants come here to take advantage of.

Anything is okay as long as Rockefeller gets his mexican nationalized oil wells back, no matter what it costs us.

38 posted on 06/01/2002 7:20:12 PM PDT by Eustace
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To: nightdriver
"One more cause for conceren is the fact of so many foreign nationals working in our foreign embassies who expedite passports and visas for who knows what terrorist and spy."

One of the hijackers on 9/11 was a naturalized U.S. citizen who had advanced military training.

Think about that.

--Boris

39 posted on 06/01/2002 8:09:41 PM PDT by boris
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To: Ajnin
"It is low. As a person tasked with actually hunting these people on the border"

My suggestion--which might get pulled--is this:

Every time the INS rounds up an illegal, he or she receives a tattoo on their rump. Seal of the INS or something.

"Amigo, we catch you here again with this tattoo, we line you up and shoot you."

Naturally this has to be serious--and followed through. Perhaps it needs legislation. Maybe even a Constitutional Amendment.

(But the Constitution is badly broken anyway; the Fourteenth Amendment needs to be repealed anyhow. We need to base citizenship on blood, not location. If either parent is a citizen, so is the child. If neither is a citizen, neither is the child.)

Please feel free to pass this idea (tattoos) up the line. I am completely serious.

--Boris

40 posted on 06/01/2002 8:13:16 PM PDT by boris
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To: Marine Inspector
Bump Ahead


41 posted on 06/02/2002 1:27:59 AM PDT by agitator
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To: Marine Inspector;Sabertooth;madfly
Who are they and where are they?

And what are their intentions?

42 posted on 06/02/2002 3:00:38 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!!
43 posted on 06/02/2002 3:21:58 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: boris
LOL...That would work. The Mexican Feds shoot them if they run. That's why given the choice to surrender to the Mex Feds or the Border Patrol, be they an illegal or just a criminal they will run across the line to surrender to the Border Patrol.
44 posted on 06/02/2002 5:56:39 AM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Marine Inspector
The question that keeps going through my mind is this:

How many letters to our Representatives and Senators would it take to get them acually to enforce our national existing immigration laws?

Or will it take something else?
Whatever that might be, we better think of it fast.

Perhaps the upcoming November elections is the last opportunity to send these idiots a clear and serious message.

45 posted on 06/02/2002 6:05:04 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Eustace
bump - more on microbiology and terror
46 posted on 06/02/2002 7:48:02 AM PDT by flamefront
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