Nuclear Neighbors Teeter on Brink of Armageddon( Maybe hours away from fight feared by entire planet

Guardian ^ | 6-2-02

[aristeides]

The Indian agenda, say diplomatic sources, is driven by its generals' belief that this may be their last chance finally to secure Kashmir. 'Indian intelligence believes that although Pakistan has viable nuclear devices it does not have a properly weaponised ballistic system to deliver them. The judgment is that Pakistan is at least 12 months away from having missiles which can reliably carry nuclear weapons.

'At best, India believes, Pakistan can field a fairly crude air-delivered device. The judgment is that if it is to do anything about Kashmir, it has to do it now.'

Another similarity with 1914. A lot of Germans then thought they had to act, because the reforms of the Russian Army then in progress would soon render it unbeatable.

[BushWonGore'sDone]

Don't forget the "Camelot" crowd, the Jackson followers, the tree huggers, the give it to me up the backside lifestyle, the it's my body and I'll abort when I want to group,the I work for the government and cannot be fired guys and I'm a demo sperm shooting senator who will say and do anything to keep me in POWER!!!

[exnavy]

This might be a good time to remove U.S. personel from the area. Kind of a "step back and let the powder keg blow" approach to diplomacy.

[sakic]

That's not what they're saying over on d*ckheads unlimited. They have about eighty ways listed that the entire India-Pakistan conflict (all the way back in history, I guess) is entirely the fault of one election-stealing GW Bush. Of course, in their tiny minds, if they have a bad haircut or a flat tire, it was GW Bush in person who did it.

Too many Freepers do the same thing. They just substitute Clinton for Bush. It's even running through this thread.

[BushWonGore'sDone]

Yes, the difference is this thread is right!

[sakic]

There is no difference. There are idiots who blame Clinton for things that have nothing to do with Clinton. Just because Clinton is to blame for some things doesn't mean he's to blame for everything. It's the same stupid thinking that goes on at DU in reverse. Stupid is stupid no matter your political affiliations.

[BushWonGore'sDone]

Typical left wing democrat response!

[sakic]

If you believe Clinton is responsible for what's going on between India and Pakistan you're either incredibly simple in regards to world affairs or you're 14 years old.

[Diogenesis]

He may not be "responsible"(**),
but he directly and indirectly armed them with nuclear teeth.

** depends upon the definition, sunspot activity, etc.

[sakic]

They were both nuclear before Clinton. India has had it since the 1970's. Do you blame Nixon for that?

Pakistan reportedly was nuclear capable in 1992. Do you blame Bush Sr. or Reagan for that?

[quebecois]

"One man with a kalashnikov and dynamite could set off a blast that makes the entire world tremble"

The world awaits the Kashmiri Princep...

[reg45]

Churchill was right.

Over fifty years ago, the greatest political leader of the twentieth century said that the people of British India (The Jewel in the Crown of the Empire) were not ready for self government.

[glorygirl]

Pray today, okay?

[SunTzuWu]

The US usually has a stabilizing effect on the rest of the world. For clintons 8 years we had no foreign policy to speak of. When the teacher leaves the room for 8 years, you kind of expect the kids to act up.

[Tuor]

Nuclear Neighbors Teeter on Brink of Armageddon

I predict a sudden upsurge in wages for IT workers here in the US if this happens...following a sharp downturn in the number of foreigners here on H-1B visas.

Tuor

[ContemptofCourt]

I dunno, If I'm India, I think I can absorb the punishment.

You have to look at it this way: India has 1 BBBBBillion people. Lets say a war costs them, what, 100 million (which is would not). They still have alot of people and alot of land.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"The Indians believe they can absorb whatever pain is inflicted on them by Pakistan in any coming war and win, including a Pakistani first use of nuclear weapons,' said one source. 'They know millions will die but they believe India will still be there afterwards.'"

My next door neighbor is Hindustani (they don't call temselves Indians), his parents have been visiting for a few months. They are heading back home this week, and I asked them if they were staying because of the situation there, and their response mirrored the quote above.

They live in the southern part of Hindustan (India) and feel that if the Pakistanis use nukes, they will strike Delhi, Calcutta, and maybe Mumbay (Bombay), but that Hindustan's retaliation will be so massive that Pakistan's strike will be limited to their first launch.

Their biggest concern is that the airlines may cancel all flights into the region.

[pgkdan]

The Arab governments might be nuts, but I don't think the Indian government is.

You're applying Western, Judeo-Christian, logic and morality to an alien situation. I don't think India wants to see millions of Indians die, but if they have to, they have to...as long as India wins and there is still an India after all is said and done.

The fact that millions of Americans and Russians would have died in the Cuban Missile Crisis may have been enough to cause Kennedy and Kruschev to back off. That's not going to happen with Mush and Vajpayee...they see the world in a completely different manner.

[sakic]

What was our foreign policy before Clinton?

Are you seriously saying that the others didn't "act up" under Reagan and Bush Sr?

Much as you'd like to believe that we control the world around us, we don't.