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American Voters Overwhelmingly Agree with Justice Department: Individuals Have Right to Bear Arms
Zogby International | June 5, 2002 | Zogby International

Posted on 06/05/2002 3:19:14 PM PDT by Dave S

American Voters Overwhelmingly Agree with Justice Department: Individuals Have Right to Bear Arms

A wide majority of American voters (75%) agree with the Justice Department’s position that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of individuals to keep and bear arms. Just over a fifth (22%) disagree with the Justice Department, while 4% are unsure.

This result follows a Supreme Court brief filed in early May in which the Justice Department stated its interpretation of the Second Amendment that individuals have the right to bear arms. Since 1973, the department has argued that the Second Amendment protects only gun ownership by state militias, not individuals.

Zogby International interviewed 1,015 likely voters chosen at random nationwide on behalf of the Second Amendment Foundation, an educational and legal defense organization that works to protect the civil rights of firearms owners. All calls were made from Zogby International headquarters in Utica, New York, from Tuesday, May 28 to Thursday, May 30, 2002. The survey has a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.2%.

Republicans (84%) were most likely to agree with the Justice Department’s position. Residents of the South and the Central/ Great Lakes, and West (79% average) as well as respondents 18-24 years old (82%) were also more likely to agree. Majorities of Democrats (65%), Easterners (60%), respondents earning $75,000+ annually (70%) and those 65 years or older (65%) also agreed with the Justice Department.

“Even among Democrats, senior citizens and the middle class, large majorities do not accept the so-called ‘collective right’ theory promoted by the most ardent gun grabbers,” says Alan Gottlieb, founderof the Second Amendment Foundation. “This poll indicates that anti-gunners are not even in-step with their traditional core groups.”

For more information on the Second Amendment Foundation, look online at http://www.saf.org/

Zogby International (www.zogby.com) - A leader for over 16 years in the field of public opinion research and world-renowned for offering superior polling, market research and information services based on accuracy and detailed strategic information.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guns; rkba; secondammendment; zogby
For thoe of you that say that John Zogby is biased in his poling and is an out and out liberal, read this. He agrees that most Americans, even Dems agree that the Constitution gives individual Americans the right to keep and bear arms, not just militias.
1 posted on 06/05/2002 3:19:15 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: *bang_list;Dan from Michigan;Sir Gawain;Lazamataz;Squantos;Travis McGee;Harpseal;JoeBrower;backhoe
Bang.

I thought you guys might want to ping around some good news for a change.

2 posted on 06/05/2002 3:23:41 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Dave S
American voters (75%) agree with the Justice Department’s position that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of individuals to keep and bear arms

That sure makes the PC-liberals cringe. Even Ms. Brady is sort of defending the right to own guns now--she bought one "for her son" for Christmas.
3 posted on 06/05/2002 3:29:08 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: AAABEST
Bang, bang GREAT news.
4 posted on 06/05/2002 3:29:57 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Dave S
respondents 18-24 years old (82%) were also more likely to agree

The relentless anti-gun indoctrination campaign in the public schools apparently hasn’t found fertile ground.

Yet.

5 posted on 06/05/2002 3:32:48 PM PDT by dead
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To: Dave S
As much as I usually dislike Zogby, I have to admit he's on the right track with this one!!

It is ALWAYS nice to take one from the PC liberal mindset and have it come out in our favor ;-)

Keep the Faith for Freedom

Greg

6 posted on 06/05/2002 3:36:00 PM PDT by gwmoore
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To: Dave S
No wonder the 'Rats have been scrambling to get rid of their anti-gun platform. Good luck after the MMM and all their efforts...
7 posted on 06/05/2002 3:43:26 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: Dave S
What do non-voting and unpolled criminals think?
8 posted on 06/05/2002 3:47:00 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Dave S
Its one thing to assert that the 2nd amendment applies to individuals rather than believing in the collective interpretation, but a majority of Americans still believe in the passage of more "gun control" laws.

If this majority of Americans don't pull their heads out of their as*es and see the incremental effect of the continuing passage of such laws, this poll means doodly-squat.

What the public thinks about the U.S. Constitution usually has no bearing on what the pols do in their zeal to pass more restrictive gun laws.

One day we may wake up to the gun-grabbers knocking at our door to sieze our firearms.

9 posted on 06/05/2002 3:47:11 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: dead
The relentless anti-gun indoctrination campaign in the public schools apparently hasn’t found fertile ground.

Kids are amazingly good at detecting huge steaming heaps of Bravo Sierra.

My son prefers the FAL, but doesn't mind range time with the Mini, or a borrowed AK or SKS. Even the 10-22 will do. ;-)

10 posted on 06/05/2002 3:48:59 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Jagdgewehr
One day we may wake up to the gun-grabbers knocking at our door to sieze our firearms.

"Hi there Mr. Gun Grabber, meet BORIS."


11 posted on 06/05/2002 3:54:07 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Dave S
Majorities of Democrats (65%), Easterners (60%), respondents earning $75,000+ annually (70%) and those 65 years or older (65%) also agreed with the Justice Department.

My gracious, there sure do seem to be a lot of "extremists" out there...

12 posted on 06/05/2002 3:56:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dave S
Dave, John Zogby is neither agreeing nor disagreeing. He is simply revealing the results of his poll.
13 posted on 06/05/2002 3:56:22 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: AAABEST
That's the American Spirit!
14 posted on 06/05/2002 4:02:11 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: billhilly
Dave, John Zogby is neither agreeing nor disagreeing. He is simply revealing the results of his poll.

And I'm merely pointing out that unlike all the claims to the contrary, he didnt manipulate this poll or falsify its findings to be consistent with his own beliefs. Many automatically assume Zogby polling cant be trusted because he is a Democrat. Then they are amazed that his polling tends to be the most accurate predictor in presidential elections.

15 posted on 06/05/2002 4:05:00 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Jagdgewehr
Its one thing to assert that the 2nd amendment applies to individuals rather than believing in the collective interpretation, but a majority of Americans still believe in the passage of more "gun control" laws.

Sort of. Most Americans want more gun controls than they think already exist. When informed of all the statutes and regulations already in place, most of those who had favored 'more' gun control instead indicate that the controls already in place are adequate.

16 posted on 06/05/2002 4:05:57 PM PDT by supercat
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To: AAABEST
It's welcome news- bearing in mind that I live in the Deep South, even most Democrats around here are very pro-RKBA.
17 posted on 06/05/2002 4:15:39 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: supercat
Part of the problem is that the press tells them that you can go to a gun show and buy a tactical nuclear weapon with no background check because of the EE-VIL National Rifle Association.
18 posted on 06/05/2002 4:16:57 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Jagdgewehr
One day we may wake up to the gun-grabbers knocking at our door to sieze our firearms.

If come to pass, which I doubt, this would be a sad but glorious day.

5.56mm

19 posted on 06/05/2002 4:17:58 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Poohbah
Part of the problem is that the press tells them that you can go to a gun show and buy a tactical nuclear weapon with no background check because of the EE-VIL National Rifle Association.

I love these 2a threads. We're all on the same side again like before the GWB wars started.

20 posted on 06/05/2002 4:19:18 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Dave S
Say, last Saturday (6/1/02) I had a letter to the editor published in the "Sacramento Bee". I was pissed cuz they trashed John Ashcroft on the 2nd amendment. Here's my short letter:

"So, The Bee likens Ashcroft to a 'Middle Eastern ayatollah issuing a fatwa'. Seems The Bee just can't get enough of trashing our country's attorney general.

This particular editorial criticized Ashcroft for his department's stand on the gun issue; namely, that gun ownership is an individual's right as opposed to the rights of militias.

I for one am grateful for Ashcroft's position on the gun issue. It's about my Second Amendment right to defend myself and my family - especially in light of Sept. 11.

If The Bee can put me in touch with a Sacramento-based, armed citizens militia group, maybe I'll change my tune. Otherwise, get off Ashcroft's case and stop trying to take away our guns."

Saundra Duffy, Sacramento

21 posted on 06/05/2002 4:21:45 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Dave S
"Constitution gives individual Americans the right to keep and bear arms, not just militias."

The Constitution gives no rights, it only guarantees from oppression, the rights that you and I were born with. As for the militia, my friend, "WE THE PEOPLE" are the militia.

22 posted on 06/05/2002 4:33:02 PM PDT by semaj
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To: AAABEST
Thanks for the ping. Good news.

Before we get too comfy, though, there are still plenty of useful idiots to deal with. How about going over the to poll linked on THIS THREAD and lending a hand. The Marxists are running amok over there!


23 posted on 06/05/2002 6:09:53 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: FreedomPoster
My son prefers the FAL

Your son is a smart guy. $:-)

24 posted on 06/05/2002 6:12:16 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: perotista
Good question. Go here, for starters. "What Good can a Handgun do against an Army ...?" .
26 posted on 06/05/2002 6:21:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower
Your son is a smart guy. $:-)

Raising him right!

27 posted on 06/05/2002 6:47:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Joe Brower
And thank you for the indirect compliment! ;-)
28 posted on 06/05/2002 6:47:58 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: perotista
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the purpose of the 2nd amendment was to allow citizens to protect themselves against a government gone awry. So, what good is a squirrel rifle against the US military machine? Or against a SWAT team?

AR-15's, Uzi's, H&K's, and many of the Chineese "assault" type weapons are perfectly legal in this country although not as inexpensive as your squirrel gun. There are tens of thousands of these weapons in the US.

While I'm NOT advocating any action, use of these weapons against our own government in an urban situation would be difficult to control. Its doubtful that any administration would want to leash helicoptor gunships or jets on urban areas that may or may not contain hostiles. Remember how much grief, the city of Philadelphia got for years over burning out a city block in an attack on some extremists.

29 posted on 06/05/2002 7:17:50 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: perotista
Depends on what you use to shoot squirrels. From what I've seen in documentaries about SWAT teams, it looks like one person with sound tactics and a battle rifle (something like an M1, an M14 or various more modern "black" rifiles in .308 or so)could hurt a SWAT team. Several people with lessor weapons, very good marksmanship and again, sound tactics might do the same.

As to the military machine, physical or metaphorical, a rifle might not hurt the hardware, but it will hurt the internal guidance system (if you can get to it).

30 posted on 06/05/2002 7:24:01 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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To: dead
I have found that those ages - and younger - are well aware of the dangers they face, and understand the need for being able to defend themselves. Especially the women/girls. They are being bombarded with "passive resistance" b.s. and "no one should have guns" constantly, and are resisting because they do have some experience with violence and some common sense. We MUST keep up and increase our efforts to defeat the MMMorons and their ilk, and train our young ones in firearms, avoidance, and their rights under the Constitution.

Of course, I expect that *some* of it might be due to the fact that kids will do almost anything to NOT be like their parents, so the MMMorons have smart kids who will get training and firearms as soon as it's possible. ;o)

Hey, we can hope!

32 posted on 06/05/2002 7:47:46 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: Jagdgewehr
You know, I don't think that "most" Americans actually DO want more gun control laws. I was called for one of the surveys, and they actually hung up on me. I was ranting at them because their questions were misleading and ridiculous. Whenever you hear that "polls say that ..." you should try to find out what questions were actually asked.

I have, for instance, been trying for months now to get the wording of polls touted by the Ceasefire NH talking head, and he has quit even trying to deflect me, and is now ignoring me. Ha! It's kind of cool ... this is playing out in the Community Comments in our local papers, by the way.

33 posted on 06/05/2002 7:52:05 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: Saundra Duffy
Yea, Saundra! That letter is downright SASsy! ;o)
34 posted on 06/05/2002 7:54:42 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: perotista
I don't know ... you might want to rethink what good a country full of determined citizens can do with squirrel rifles against a government. Many times, governments have underestimated that kind of resistance and lost. It's the main reason why they start out any movement to oppressive government by disarming the populace.
35 posted on 06/05/2002 7:57:11 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: Dave S
I always ask the few democrats I find that believe the 2nd is not a individual right how they can say it's a collective right when the 1st, 3rd, 4th etc are not.

I've yet to find one who can justify it, if they even understand what I am talking about.

36 posted on 06/05/2002 7:59:21 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: MightyMouth
What is the rapist's worst nightmare? A woman with a gun! Go, Second Amendment Sisters!! For victory & freedom!!!
37 posted on 06/05/2002 8:05:07 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Dave S
I attended CalAPRA (Calif American Pistol & Rifle Assn) meeting this past Monday night at McClellan AFB and I was kind of disturbed to find that several of the speakers got way off subject - conspiracy theories, trashing President Bush, etc. They even trashed other attendees for not being anti-government enough. One of the speakers said that Congressman MacDonald (whose plane went down many years back out of Alaska) - she said that MacDonald is still alive and being held captive in Russia. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't understand why they're discussing all these conspiracy theories at a pro gun event. Do you? For victory & freedom!!!
38 posted on 06/05/2002 8:11:14 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Dave S
In a related story:

Most Americans Believe 18yo Adults Have Right To Vote

Freedom to Attend the Peaceful Church of Your Choice has Strong Support

By a 10-1 Margin: Americans Think You Don't Have to Testify Against Yourself, Unless You are Johnny Walker-Lindh

39 posted on 06/05/2002 8:21:27 PM PDT by Orion
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