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The India-Pakistan Crisis and Chinese Strategy
Financial Sense.com ^ | 6/4/2002 | J. R. Nyquist

Posted on 06/06/2002 10:16:39 AM PDT by ex-Texan

The India-Pakistan Crisis and Chinese Strategy

by J. R. Nyquist

Everyone is talking about the worsening relations between India and Pakistan, the two emerging nuclear powers of Asia. What is hardly mentioned is the role of China as Pakistan's supporter and India's enemy.

Americans may not appreciate the extent to which China and India are hostile to one another. After consolidating its conquest of Tibet in the 1950s, China did not accept the pre-existing Tibetan-Indian border. China and India began to fight in October-November 1962 when Indian patrols discovered a Chinese military road running through disputed territory. Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru ordered Indian troops to free Indian territory of "Chinese intruders." Nehru's troops, however, were not up to the task. The People's Liberation Army defeated them. Afterwards, China joined up with India's archenemy, Pakistan.

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But here is the interesting part: In 1962 Moscow did not support the communist side in the conflict between India and China. The Kremlin pretended to be sympathetic to India. This effectively drew India into a military partnership with Soviet Russia. In the meantime, while the conflict between India and China remained unresolved, Russia moved into a military-technical partnership with China during the 1990s. Russia is now supporting both sides in South Asia: specifically, Russia is giving massive military-technical assistance to China (which supports Pakistan); and Russia continues to enjoy a longstanding military-technical collaboration with India. (Asian politics doesn't get more interesting than this.)

In 1984 a KGB defector named Anatoliy Golitsyn offered an explanation for Russia's Asian moves. In a book titled "New Lies for Old: The Communist Strategy for Deception and Disinformation" Golitsyn stated that the Sino-Soviet dispute (beginning in the early 1960s) was a strategic maneuver to win American economic and technical support for China. Golitsyn added that this maneuver simultaneously gave Russia and China greater leverage over the politics of the Indian subcontinent. Golitsyn stated, "Where a serious dispute exists between two Third World countries, a pattern in Soviet and Chinese policies can be discerned in which the Soviet Union and China take up opposite sides and adopt a clearcut duality in their policies." Golitsyn suggested that China's 1962 attack on India was an intentional provocation for pushing India into Russia's arms. At the same time China could make important inroads into India's rival, Pakistan.

As the chief military suppliers of India and Pakistan, Russia and China would - through support for each side - gradually obtain an indirect veto power over Indian and Pakistani foreign and military policies. China's decision to give nuclear and missile technology to terrorist Pakistan was therefore based on profound calculations. Far from fearing radical Islam, communist China has boldly sought to ingratiate itself with Muslim extremists. On the other side, Russia entered Afghanistan in a way that directly supported India by threatening Pakistan.

Consider the logic of the situation: Pakistan would not dare provoke India without the support of China. India would not dare invade Pakistan without support from Russia. Therefore, India and Pakistan depend on Russia and China. According to Golitsyn this dependency will one day be used to effect "an eventual communist takeover."

"After successful use of [this strategy] in the early stages of the final phase of policy … a Sino-Soviet reconciliation could be expected," wrote Golitsyn in 1984. "It is contemplated and implied by the long-range policy and by the strategic disinformation on the [Sino-Soviet] split."

I believe that Golitsyn was onto something because his predictions have been correct again and again. China's military modernization is well under way and we already see that the rift between Moscow and Beijing has been healed. "Before long," wrote Golitsyn in 1984, "the communist strategists might be persuaded that the balance had swung irreversibly in their favor. In that event they might well decide on a Sino-Soviet 'reconciliation.'"

Readers are reminded of last year's Russia-China Friendship Treaty, [Also see] in which Russia indirectly promised to support China in a future conflict over Taiwan. Twenty years ago such an agreement would have alarmed the West. But today there is no alarm. "The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible," predicted Golitsyn in 1984. "There might even be public acknowledgement that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the 'imperialist' powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined." As the future military balance shifts in favor of a new trans-Asian alliance, the collapse of the Soviet empire would be reversed. According to Golitsyn, "The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine opposition would be crushed."

Already, these trends can be observed in Russia.

Even more ominous, consider recent stories involving the Chinese. An Associated Press report describes the landing of ten Chinese men of military age on the Southern Californian coast. At approximately 3:30 a.m. on May 23 an off-duty lifeguard spotted ten Chinese coming ashore at Newport Beach, California. They swam naked from ships out at sea, using life vests -- their clothing sealed in plastic bags. (Some of the clothing included full suits.) (see http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2854164p-3649714c.html )

Two weeks ago the CIA and the Department of Defense publicly warned of future Chinese cyber-attacks against the United States. The Institute for Strategic Studies put forward a classified report warning the Pentagon, U.S. law enforcement and other agencies of the emerging Chinese cyber-threat. Last year Chinese hackers knocked out the White House's Web site and invaded over 660 other U.S. sites. The CIA's information operations manager, John Serabian, has testified that the U.S. is vulnerable to economic disruption by Chinese military hackers. (see http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/05/28/1022243318686.html )

It should also be noted that the communist spy base at Lourdes (Cuba) recently passed from Russian control to Chinese control. The Lourdes spy base is said to be a potent cyber-warfare facility. The FCC alleges that Lourdes is capable of Interfering with U.S. military and civilian communications. There has already been at least one instance of Chinese technicians sending a false message to New York air traffic controllers involving U.S. military flight codes.

Last week The Washington Times reported that China has been preparing a six-month dress rehearsal for an invasion of Taiwan. According to the Times, the official Chinese press has been ominously silent about these military preparations. According to the Times, "[U.S.] Intelligence officials are concerned that if war breaks out between India and Pakistan … the Chinese military might use the war games to attack Taiwan."

China's war preparations gain added significance when we look at China's past support for America's enemies in the "War on Terror." In a June 1 story, Bill Gertz of The Washington Times wrote of 30 Chinese-made anti-aircraft missiles captured by U.S. troops in Afghanistan. It is also significant that Taliban and al Qaeda leaders are believed to be hiding in the territory of China's ally, Pakistan. As of last week Chinese equipment and personnel were deploying to Pakistan's new strategic deepwater port at Gwadar. China intends to use Gwadar for basing submarines and other warships. These could operate directly against the West's oil shipping routes out of the nearby Persian Gulf . Clearly, the Chinese are positioning themselves near all the world's key strategic waterways, including the Panama Canal.

China's moves are not those of a friendly, peaceable country. As tensions grow in Korea, South Asia and the Middle East, China's position is strengthened. The same could be said for Russia. Since America's chief export is stability it necessarily follows that America's enemies will export instability (i.e., in the form of nuclear missile weapons). After this fashion the "zone of militarism" disrupts civilization and overturns it in the name of revolution.

As Lenin once wrote, "The admission that the government cannot now be terrified and consequently disrupted by terror is tantamount to a complete condemnation of terror as a system of struggle, as a sphere of activity sanctioned by the [party] program." ("What is to be done?" Section F)

© 2002 Jeffrey R. Nyquist


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chinastuff; chineseplots; clashofcivilizatio; india; indiavpakistan; pakistan; southasialist

1 posted on 06/06/2002 10:16:44 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Interesting read. Certainly something to chew on.
2 posted on 06/06/2002 10:45:36 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: ex-Texan; 4ConservativeJustices; billbears
This is some awesome truth. Going to bookmark. We are so much closer than most realize...
3 posted on 06/06/2002 11:02:31 AM PDT by Ff--150
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To: ex-Texan
Great post another link to site; Storm Watch
4 posted on 06/06/2002 11:07:26 AM PDT by flanew
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To: Ff--150
Bookmarked here. I've been thinking about this myself, but news reports keep saying the Chinese wouldn't be bothered by a nuclear war in their backyard. I don't care how small the weapons are, I feel they would be.
5 posted on 06/06/2002 11:09:29 AM PDT by billbears
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To: *China stuff;*southasia_list;*Clash of Civilizatio
Bump list
6 posted on 06/06/2002 11:10:49 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Ff--150;ex-Texan; 4ConservativeJustices; billbears; Prodigal Son
Golytsin is a must read. His predictions vis-a-vis Russia and China have been uncannily accurate. His central premise was then, and is now unfashionably scary: i.e. That the commies ain't dead, they're just resting!
Great post, definitely bookmark material!
7 posted on 06/06/2002 11:15:13 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: billbears
You're right about those so-called reports about Red China not caring. That's what's left on the ground south of a northbound horse...

China wants India as much as they do Taiwan, and with two billion in China and India, one kook or idiot can make things rather interesting; moreover, x42 made us rather vulnerable.

8 posted on 06/06/2002 11:20:34 AM PDT by Ff--150
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To: ex-Texan
Do you think that Putin is stringing us along?
Or is Bush's strategy to form a true alliance with Russia (hence the importance of Rice) to counter the Russo-Sino shenanigans since 1940?
Could W be more clever than even WE think he is?
9 posted on 06/06/2002 11:21:42 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: ex-Texan
Even more ominous, consider recent stories involving the Chinese. An Associated Press report describes the landing of ten Chinese men of military age on the Southern Californian coast. At approximately 3:30 a.m. on May 23 an off-duty lifeguard spotted ten Chinese coming ashore at Newport Beach, California. They swam naked from ships out at sea, using life vests -- their clothing sealed in plastic bags. (Some of the clothing included full suits.)

What's up with this??? These are certainly interesting times to be living in.

10 posted on 06/06/2002 11:32:11 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Psalm 73
Could W be more clever than even WE think he is?

Oh PLEAZZZZA!!!!

11 posted on 06/06/2002 11:34:22 AM PDT by mconder
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To: ex-Texan
A very interesting read. Seems like the current India-Pakistan conflict might have been egged on to keep the growing US-India relationship in check. What better way to do so than to throw us as a possible negotiator...
12 posted on 06/06/2002 11:37:51 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: Aaron_A
Btw, as per the SacBee article mentioned above said that all 10 Chinese were arrested...
13 posted on 06/06/2002 11:39:45 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: JimRob
Worth reading
15 posted on 06/06/2002 11:58:10 AM PDT by flanew
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To: Psalm 73
Putin is KGB ..... of course !
16 posted on 06/06/2002 1:27:40 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: EggsAckley
* ping *
17 posted on 06/06/2002 1:29:33 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: Ff--150
Bump for later. Interesting times indeed!
18 posted on 06/06/2002 1:33:50 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: ex-Texan
Thanks. Very interesting article. It addresses some things I was wondering about recently.
19 posted on 06/06/2002 1:45:38 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Psalm 73; swarthyguy; infowarrior;PsyOps
Putin is definitely one of the most urbane intelligent leaders in the world today. And the fact that he is ex=KGB means he has the ability to play politics like some chess game, with great dexterity and cunning.

And who knows, although it sounds rather improbable there is a chance that the Russians have been playing the west for decades. And to those who say the collapse of the USSR was a loss, think about it. Was it really a loss? Or was it a gain in efficiency by ridding itself of an inept system of government, and making itself get accepted by the West. And admired in the process for the great 'change' it has accomplished.

And to those who say 'what about all the good stuff Russia has been doing?' Well, there is a japanese saying that goes something like this: 'Tada yori takai mono wa nai.' It means nothing is more costly than something given free of charge. I am not Japanese, but they have a wealth of information on such matters, almost similar to Machiavelli!

Also remember: When you are weaker, never fight for honors sake; choose surrender instead. Surrender gives you time to recover, time to torment and irritate your conqueror, time to wait for his power to wane. Do not give him the satisfaction of fighting and defeating you....surrender first! Make surrender a tool of power. (That was from some saying of power and deception).

Putin is very suave, quite possibly the most suave and cerebral world leader out there. He was bred to be smart, to look for openings, and maximize their potential. And at the moment most people see Russia as some second rate world power... a fallen superpower (which i never understand since Russia since has enough nukes to seed the world with contamination, and its influence is still bold. The only thing it lacks, for now, is the financial clout of the US). But it is definitely a super power, even if it never uses that moniker anymore!

And do you think the Russian oligarchs would see their soviet empire crumble, and just sit and do nothing about it? To them what happened was a slap in the face, and everytime the US sends some financial 'assistance' to them i am sure it makes them squirm and spit. There is an Ethiopian proverb that says: When the great lord passes, the wise peasant bows deeply and silently farts! Now imagine the 'wise peasant' was a former lord a decade ago, and although he is a peasant he still possesses the world's largest nuclear arsenal, and considerable clout overseas. His only problem is that the peasant lost all his money! What do you think the peasnt will do? Simple: GET HIS FORTUNE BACK, AND THEN LASH OUT AT HIS FORMER 'LORD' WHO TRIED TO SUBJECT A 'NOBLE' TO SERVITUDE!

When the Japanese were defeated in WW2 by the American 'Gaijin' barbarians (not my words...theirs), they were so angry many commited sepuku by ripping their bellies open with a blade! (which by the way is one of the most painful ways to die... which is why they had a firend nearby to chop of their heads once the initial cut was done across the belly). Then the survivors plotted their vengeance, and they won!

What?

Yep! In the seventies onwards they started to win the US in many facets of technology and industry, and currently only 3 big American car manufacturers are left. And according to an article in Fortune Magazine I read three weeks ago even those three will either be gone in a decade, or so foreign they are no longer 'American!'

However i doubt the Russians will find such tech dominance sufficient. I do not know what they will do, but stand assured the moment their economy comes back online and they do not need the US that they will act in someway to show the US they are still powerful!

The concept of SNEAK ACROSS THE OCEAN IN BROAD DAYLIGHT: This means to create a front that eventually becomes imbued with an atmosphere or impression of familiarity, within which the strategist may maneuver unseen while all eyes are trained to see obvious familiarities.

"The Thirty-Six Strategies," Quoted in the Japanese Art of War, Thomas Cleary, 1991.

A virus. Unseen, it enters your pores without warning, spreading silently and slowly. Before you are aware of the infection, it is deep inside you!

20 posted on 06/06/2002 4:53:43 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: ex-Texan
I will cross-link your post to this:

The India-Pakistani Conflict... some background information-

FYI, I just posted a more modern map of short-term fallout effects ( over the continent ) there.


21 posted on 06/06/2002 5:07:33 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: all
Please check this out... all of it...
22 posted on 06/06/2002 5:08:39 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: belmont_mark
Thanks for the link. I posted that J. R. Nyquist article about the mini-nukes and was ripped to pieces by wolves. Take care.
23 posted on 06/06/2002 7:07:41 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: mconder
"Oh PLEAZZZZA"

When I say W, I'm refering to the rest of the clan, too - like Dr. Rice, Rumsfeldt, et al, (but, obviously, NOT Mineta).

24 posted on 06/07/2002 4:36:49 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: spetznaz
All I know is that God is laughing in heaven.
25 posted on 06/12/2002 10:42:37 AM PDT by lavaroise
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26 posted on 06/12/2002 10:43:15 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: ex-Texan
China seeks land route to Afghanistan

This article bears notice. The Kings of the East prepare for the march.

27 posted on 06/12/2002 11:00:43 AM PDT by gwynapnudd
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To: lavaroise
Huh?
28 posted on 06/12/2002 6:13:28 PM PDT by spetznaz
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