Skip to comments.Peggy Noonan: The Other Shoe
Posted on 06/06/2002 9:07:37 PM PDT by Pokey78Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Obsessing over Sept. 11 distracts us from preventing the next attack.
We have come to quite a pass. The nation continues on high alert as our teenagers gulp antidepressants and Osama's spokesman tells us to fasten our seatbelt. The attorney general asks if his agents could please be allowed to surf the Internet; we debate that, and whether or not it would be insensitive to fingerprint young Mideastern males trying to enter America. Palestinian terrorists kill another 17 people in another suicide bombing on another Israeli road, and Israel hits back, with Yasser Arafat under siege for a few hours.
(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...
This entire essay may be Noonan's greatest contribution to date.
Me too. Bless their hearts. They were probably terrified too and will never travel again.
This article pinpoints our situation. We should not tolerate the stupid discussions about profiling. We will profile and we will protect ourselves. If the left doesn't like it - they just don't like it. I don't like middle eastern men blowing up innocent people at their whim. I've never noticed the left caring whether I liked something or not.
Thanks for the post, Pokey78.
Exactly what I have been saying to anyone who will listen.
A big Bravo for Peggy, she has really hit a home run with this one.
Read Job chapter 33 (thats in the Bible) if you want the solution to getting off the wide path to destruction. Its great news, unlike all the crap the Bush administration has started tossing on us. Won't you come home Karen, and restore reality to the drunk on 75% poll numbers Bush adminstration.
I wish I could say that Bush's speech today gives me peace of mind, unless it's just the first of many sudden changes that will set things right again.
I'm not talking about Bush and his announced plan to create a Department of Homeland Security.
I'm not talking about Rush Limbaugh, who is a great talker, but he's not what the change is about.
Certain visible opinion leaders are beginning to step out in front of public opinion and demand radical changes in our domestic security structure, regarding profiling, border security, and other areas politicians and people like Tom Ridge won't touch.
I count them as follows:
Lou Dobbs mentioning Islamists.
Bill O'Reilly on border security, and today, indirectly calling for pre-emptive assassinations of terrorists (in a discussion about the CIA)
An opinion leader, I forget who, who on the Wall Street Journal op-ed page said we should pre-announce that we will nuke Mecca if a major American city is nuked
Now this piece by Peggy Noonan
Hopefully this can snowball and begin to be recognized by the popular culture.
Some people call these ideas conservative, but I think this opinion stream is going under the banner of common sense. (Conservatives would just say conservatism IS common sense).
This is one of the great things about our society, that opinion can move like this. Hopefully it will be fast enough to work that we can have something in place before the next strike. If not, hopefully the next strike will be a glancing blow and the next strike can wake up any segment of the population that has any self-preservation instincts left.
Meanwhile, idiots like Noam Chomsky prattle.
Call me superstitious if you like, but because of my religious belief, and because I believe there is a prime mover of evil in the world, a personality, Satan, I believe bad things WILL continue to happen. Possibly this will lead to the end of the world, I don't know. I just believe that because Satan is Lord of the current earth, he WILL have continued successes. We should continue to pray that the Lord will give us a protective shield.
Elected officials are very good at second guessing past things and saying 'this is not an effort to point fingers', all the while pointing fingers.
This is what 40 years of flower-power-hippie-love-smoke-that-doobie philosophy has left us: Afraid to defend ourselves for it will make us appear hard and uncompassionate to our enemies.
And, gee, it's all our fault for oppressing the noble savages anyway, so we deserve to die. Seem like an outrageously over-the-top statement? If you polled our glorious institutions of higher education nationally, solid majorities would opine that we do deserve it. It reminds me of the famous Oxford student vote in the mid 1930's, where the flower of British youthful intelligensia declared overwhelmingly that they would not fight in a war to defend their country. Hitler took note of that fine little exercise in academic freedom. Our enemies are watching us in the same manner today
If another shoe does drop in NY or D.C., my fervent hope is that the only casualties are the staunch Mr. Bloomberg who opined recently that even if another 9/11 were to occur because of it, he would still oppose profiling because that was a greater evil than mass murder, and the ever-correct Mr. Mineta. They, at least, really would deserve it.
Anyone know if this article has been published yet? It's not in last Sunday's NYT Magazine, and media society inner-circle New Yorkers like Peggy get next Sunday's issue delivered to them by hand the Wednesday before.
It was in the 5/24 edition of the NYT Magazine.
Washington is broken, there is no fixing it, especially not in time to win a war on terror or provide any kind of security from attacks. The individual states should take back the power that they ceded to D.C. and we, in our respective states should insist upon it.
Our individual states should determine their immigration policies, secure their borders in cooperation with other states, States should determine their population policies, and have their own security measures in place. It's far easier to be effective in individual States than to hope in vain for something workable out of Washington.
Right now the demoncrats want to stall security legislation in favor of bringing to the floor a Federal hate crimes bill that is so vague it can cover anything and is not constitutional to begin with. Meanwhile the door is still open to people from terrorist countries, planes still land from Saudi Arabia with no idea of who is on board, and illegal immigration is costing tax payers 24 billion a year to provide them services, not to mention the 9 billion a year they send back home that could and should be used to stimulate our own economy.
We for sure have enough third world legal immigrants to cover those "jobs Americans won't do", we can place a reasonable working vistors plan in effect without having a run away invasion that forces Americans to learn a foreign language to get and keep a job in their own darned country. I'm for putting pressure on the States to do something, D.C. is a dead end and a waste of resources and time.
As usual, a prescient communique.
Re: bioterror - yep, it's a definate possibility. Specifically, on smallpox, vaccination may be helpful - many microbiologists feel that quarrantine along with vaccination of those in the quarranteened area will work in the face of an outbreak. That's assuming an acceptable number of fatalities and is based upon the additional assumption that the offending organism has not been modified to shorten its incubation period. Unfortunately, according to Ken Alibek (who essentially ran the former SU's bio-warfare program before defecting to the United States) the former Soviet Union was working specifically to develop a smallpox pathogen w/a shortened incubation period, therefore nullifying my faith in the tenet that an outbreak could be contained via quarrantine & vaccination. Re: your suggestion that at least all our young people be vaccinated - assuming we now have enough viable vaccine to do this, for this to be effective, we again would have to hope that the organism used in a terrorist attack has not been genetically modified in a way that would render our current vaccines ineffective. Maybe we'll get lucky and get attacked w/a garden variety strain of smallpox. Maybe not. Of course, there are numerous other pathogens no doubt available on the "Black Market" that could cause us particular harm if mass exposure/infection rates could be improved. I'll leave that to your imagination. But you are definately on the right track on this potential hazard.
RE: nuclear attack w/a dirty bomb - this is a bit out of my area, but I think it's safe to say that, depending on the size/amount and type of the nuclear material used, and the dispersal pattern/air currents, etc., someone 22 miles from a city hit with a dirty nuke is not likely to be a good candidate for cash-value life insurance. Assuming I'd be far enough away to survive the initial attack, I'd probably be more worried about the long term effects of radiation exposure on this one.
Why aren't we being told what to do if these kinds of attacks happen? Great question. Our public servants are too afraid to mention it, I suppose. You know, there goes the stock market, and only those hideous, beastly pharmaceutical companies would profit from widespread dispersal of this info due to their various anti-depressant products. I guess those would be the same hideous, beastly companies we'd be depending on for live-saving technologies and therapeutics if we were hit with bioterrorism.
I think you're right on the money with this article. I can only pray that those who are now busy with their senatorial navel-gazing and perpetual preening before the cameras, will see it.
I absolutely adore your work. Would you please consider moving here to fly-over country? True, it's not quite as cosmopolitan as New York, and true, it's not quite as scenic as New York; however, it's also not likely to be the number one or number two target on your average terrorist's hit list. There's a lot to be said for the land of corn and soybeans, from that particular perspective. We will definately leave the light on for ya.
I'm sure President Bush reads every essay that Peggy Noonan writes, but I'm not so sure about Karl. I think you're forgetting, Peggy writes for a living. Her tools are the written word and she is blessed with great literary skills.
OTOH, President Bush is leading the United States of America, the greatest nation on Earth. He has more weight on his shoulders then a million men. He is a passionate, honest and a God fearing man, who doesn't take his job lightly. Bush is POTUS, Commander and Chief, political leader, leader of the free world and yes, he is part media creation too. In fact, all presidents are media creations, to an extent.
But more importantly, George W.Bush is more then the sum of his parts. He knows his limitations and is humbled by his position in life. He didn't need to be President. Bush would have been content living on his ranch in Crawford Texas and happy being a husband and a father. The nation called on George W.Bush and he responded. He did what was right and the vast majority of American's, are thankful for his decision to serve his country.
You're wasting your time attempting to ridicule and insult President Bush. Most folks look right through that BS rhetoric. Besides it makes you look like a cheap and petty.
Judging from the conversations I've had over the last nine months, when the next shoe drops, if profiling isn't implemented immediately, there are a lot of people out there willing to start going vigilante, and/or marching (rioting?) on Washington to demand it.
You're kidding, right? These people that are in their 30's through their 50's are comatose and no amount of megatonage will wake them up. They have been indoctrinated into not resisting ANY aggressor. If 9/11 didn't wake them up, nothing will.
I assume that what people are doing right now is giving the government a chance to prove that it can protect us, and crossing their fingers.
We have no proof that Mr. Beamer and his friends actually brought down that plane. On the contrary, there is evidence that I have read, and though my sources in the aviation industry that say that it was brought down by another plane. I'll let you conect the dots.
Are you in some kind of camp that believes that all resistance on that flight, no matter how inept, is fictitious?
My analogy is that the American people are still at the beginning of their arousal state, and that society will react to protect itself if it feels that big daddy government can't do it.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Obviously they resisted, I just don't think that they brought the plane down. Please remember, witnesses say the plane started breaking up BEFORE it hit the ground. Doesn't take an Einstien to figure that one out.
I sometimes wonder how many of the important decisions made by our leaders are determined by similar childhood memories rather than adult rational decision-making processes.
Thanks to Peggy, and thanks for the ping.
"Fiddling while Rome burned" comes to mind.
This says it all, thanks, once again, to Peggy Noonan. Wake up, Senate! Wake up, Bush! Half-measures will not do. Profile young Arab/Islamic males. Use your common sense! Time is running out.
I live back home, and it doesn't play well with me.
Each senator cares about his or her reelection and little or nothing else. It is not about public service. What's wrong with this picture?
And that brings to mind this great quote:
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stewart Mill