Hijackers' money trail traced to Oklahoma

www.newsok.com/ ^ | 2002-06-06 | By The Associated Press

[Ole Okie]

Arabs came to learn this. These courses were there for Okalahomans to learn how to exploit their native state's oil/gas reserves

OU has had world-class geology, petroleum and natural gas engineering schools. I graduated from OU in 1950; there were a lot of Arabs attending these schools at that time.

So it's not exactly an "al-Johnny come lately" thing.

[reformedliberal]

Today, racist is defined as any critical statement about any group or any individual, regardless of it's relevance to ethnicity, appearance or belief.

Jews, Christians and conservatives excepted, of course. And then all anyone has to say is "Fascist" and those who have never been taught the real meaning of that term all look right, look left and strongly join in the condemnation. If they don't, they are immediately suspect of belonging to or supporting any of the 3 groups allowed to be reviled with impunity.

[rubbertramp]

XXXXX male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

What if I put the words "Jew" or "black" in that statement?...this thread would light up like a Christmas tree.

Heylady should change her name to hatelady.

[remaininlight]

You know better than I since you graduated from OU. Do they teach about oil refineries too? How to engineer and build one? Even so I believe most Arab refineries are built by US and European firms. Thanks.

[OKSooner]

You bet it would, because Jews and Blacks haven't been doing the stuff that Militant Islamic Extremists between 17 and 40 have been doing all along.

[gaspar]

ISI Chief Lt. General Ahmed was in D.C. on the 4th and met with Richard Armitage on the 12th and 13th. Likewise he met with Joseph Biden on those two days, and on the 13th he held a long discussion at the State Department. Prior to 9/11 it was well known within the Departments of Defense and State, and in the intelligence committees on the Hill that the ISI was riven by loyalties. A strong cabal of Islamist officers had supported the Taliban and Al Qaida and had done so since the early 1980s, and years before the CIA made its appearance along the Afghan-Pak frontier. Even before 9/11 the Americans were actively involved in pushing the reduction of the Islamist presence in the ISI, something that Musharraf has undertaken -- not as fast as some want, but at great personal risk to himself.

[Aria]

It would be false if you substituted Jews or Blacks for Muslim males. Truth hurts, eh?

[rubbertramp]

I don't know about your country, but in this country there is freedom of religion.

[rubbertramp]

Then there is that small matter of Atta training at the Air College in Alabama....

[crazykatz]

BUMP!

rubberstamp is missing the ink pad....he is almost useless!

[jammer]

Well, if "Jew" or "Christian" applied, then you would be correct. But "Jew" or "Christian" does not apply. "Muslim" does. That's her point.

[jammer]

I don't know about your country, but in this country there is freedom of religion.

If that reply is in any way relevant--which it is not--then realize this: freedom of religion does not include flying passenger airliners into buildings.

Give it up man: your desperation is showing.

[AndyJackson]

They decided the real target was right wing Christians, hate radio, and the so called militias. Thanks to the Clinton inspired diversion we avoided dealing with the real threat and soon we had 911. Ain't it lovely?

And don't forget the house of pleasure in New Orleans.

[cgk]

Oklahoma? Don't I remember somebody being suspicious of Muslim involvement in some sort of explosion in Oklahoma?

Oh, now I remember -- some American guy confessed, so it's IMPOSSIBLE that any Muslims were involved.

Convenient, isn't it? There's quite a foundation for this theory, even going so far as to Dan Burton "investigating" the possibility: however, he never seems to get anything done. Check our profile for bookmarks to many of the FR posts on this topic if you want more info.

Mrs Kus

[safisoft]

I wonder if 911 would have happened if they hadn't framed it as a case of White Boy domestic terrorism. Well the feds executed McVeigh in haste and while no one thinks he's innocent, the fact of the matter is any secets he had that may have shed light on a possible radical Islamist terrorist connection died with him.

Good point. Remember, it was Timothy McVeigh that ASKED to stop all appeals and speed up execution. Could it be that McVeigh knew of the plot and wanted be out of the way once the attack happened?

My guess is that the gubbermint and McVeigh both knew the connection. McVeigh knew before it happened - and now the gubbermint knows as well - but their cover-up will never see the light of day. Mr. John McGaw (former ATF) being the head of transportation security is an absolute joke. Now we have 2 groups to fear: Islamic terrorists, and former ATF "terrorists" who claim to defend us from them.

[Ole Okie]

Even so I believe most Arab refineries are built by US and European firms. Thanks.

You're absolutely right.

Middle easterners tended to concentrate in the petroleum engineering and geology schools, at least at OU at that time.

[irgbar-man]

Well the feds executed McVeigh in haste and while no one thinks he's innocent, the fact of the matter is any secets he had that may have shed light on a possible radical Islamist terrorist connection died with him.

Did McVeigh really die on 6/11/01? This question was posed to me by someone in state gov't (MN). There was a parade of "witnesses" but no one saw the body. McVeigh had a backgound in special ops, did he not? Was he useful to the gov't or others in places of power? I have no answers. Tinfoil hat strapped on. <:D

[caddie]

What?

Why is it hateful to point out the obvious?

What is your motivation, dude?

Do you not think that everyone in the US (and world) agrees with her post?

If not, you should.

[Free the USA]

fyi