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Radical Islamists Honored at University of Wisconsin Christians Dismissed from Staff
Holy Bible, Koran | 6/8/02 | M. Curtiss MD

Posted on 06/08/2002 7:03:11 AM PDT by Love of Country

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.


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These academic bastards are anti-America and anti-christ, please call your local papers, talk radio and state politicians. Help us get the word out.

Pax Americana,

Mike Curtiss MD

1 posted on 06/08/2002 7:03:11 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: WIMom
Bump
2 posted on 06/08/2002 7:04:28 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: Love of Country
May God bless these two.
3 posted on 06/08/2002 7:16:40 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: Love of Country
Islam is a false religion and more cult like. Sounds like the rats want to team up with the terrorist. FReeptime this college of rats!
4 posted on 06/08/2002 7:17:14 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Love of Country
I blame the liberal universities for much of what happened Sept 11 and before. Muslims have little contact with real Americans, they meet most Americans in the universities ---they formed an opinion of us from the limp-wristed liberals they've met and believed we were a very weak people ready for take-over. Eventually they'll find out ---but unfortunately the liberals actually have this country weakened for now.
5 posted on 06/08/2002 7:17:53 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Love of Country;JohnHuang2
Thanks for the ping! JohnHuang2, Could we get you to ping this?
6 posted on 06/08/2002 7:22:36 AM PDT by WIMom
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To: Love of Country
I left academic medicine a couple of years ago. I felt like an outsider because of my conservative viewpoints. I agree you should contact your political representatives, any news organization that has conservative leanings, and possibly think of an antidefamation suit againt the University for your dismissal, and for the interference in your future positions. Put the heat on!

Wife of Blennos, MD

7 posted on 06/08/2002 7:25:16 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: FITZ
In addition to pressuring the states that support these intellectual cess pools, I think it's also time for us to lean on people who provide scholarship and foundation money to these enemies of the American people. They picture themselves as glamorous and idealistic, manning the ramparts of radical thought. Let's see how idealistic they are when their funding starts to dry up!
8 posted on 06/08/2002 7:26:29 AM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Love of Country
If they do not have the backbone to file legal papers...ignore them. It is too late in the day to hear of blatant discrimination with no follow-up legal action. That was 1970, this is 2002. In fact, I would consider this a hoax/urban legend because no mention of legal action is included.
9 posted on 06/08/2002 7:26:52 AM PDT by Leonard210
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To: Love of Country
University of Wisconsin-Madison Medical School Ombuds Office:
http://www.med.wisc.edu/Ombuds/

Rosa Garner, Ombudsperson
1300 University Avenue
223 Bradley Memorial
Madison, WI 53706
Direct Phone: 608-265-9666
Direct Fax: 608-265-9773
Email: rgarner@facstaff.wisc.edu

10 posted on 06/08/2002 7:27:20 AM PDT by mhking
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To: MeeknMing
ping
11 posted on 06/08/2002 7:27:37 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: Love of Country
From what I can see, Dr. Curtiss is or was a University of Wisconsin faculty member who teaches or taught resident physicians. I do not know if this entitles him to be considered a professor in the Wisconsin system, although if he lived where I do, he almost certainly would have a title similar to "Assistant Clincal Professor of Medicine." This leads me to look on it as an academic freedom case. Perhaps we should be trying to enlist one or more of the academic freedom organizations which work such cases. Here is a list including such organizations: National Association of Scholars Links
12 posted on 06/08/2002 7:29:52 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Love of Country
Lou Dobbs of CNN said correctly: "Terror is just a product produced by Islamist" Americans need to identify the enemy, and that enemy is "Isamist"
DECLARE WAR ON ISLAM NOW!
anything else is politically correct B.S. that's going to destroy this country.
13 posted on 06/08/2002 7:31:33 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: Love of Country
Get yer s**t together and sue sue sue. Your lawyer can make these university rats testify in a court of law about their dirty deads. They will be tripped up on their lies. You start making noises...Start having a lawyer write letters and they just might cave without much fuss.
14 posted on 06/08/2002 7:35:19 AM PDT by remaininlight
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To: Love of Country
Bump for later reference. Sounds like slander and defamation of character to me.
16 posted on 06/08/2002 7:46:22 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Love of Country; Ff-150; 4ConservativeJustices
ping, the religion of political correctness and acceptance of Islam as true strikes again. Mike, I'll contact my local paper and be praying for you and family as well
17 posted on 06/08/2002 7:47:21 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Blennos; Love of Country
Also wrongful termination suit. Discovery in a suit might produce very interesting documents and e-mails in the university.
18 posted on 06/08/2002 7:48:12 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Love of Country
Methinks this story may be bogus.

Either English is a second language for this MD or else he failed English. Unless he is foreign born, this story must be bogus.

19 posted on 06/08/2002 7:53:39 AM PDT by adakotab
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To: Love of Country
Yes, but we have diversity. Now you know what is meant by the use of the term.Further, your own government promotes this type of behavior.

People have not grasped the concept our leadership is bankrupt.

20 posted on 06/08/2002 7:58:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Love of Country
I recently purchased a 4 DVD set of history of WWII from Sam's Club. One of the "reels" spoke of Hitlers "5th column", the infiltrators sent in months or years in advance to "soften up" the population with propaganda to accept the Nazi invasion. They were also there to either protect vital strategic interests within the nations borders or hinder the military or civil defense when the invasion came.

I see no difference in what's happening today in the USA. Same tune, different drummer...

21 posted on 06/08/2002 8:05:24 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: Love of Country
bump
22 posted on 06/08/2002 8:06:25 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: adakotab
Here's Dean Phillip Farrell's page at UW Medical School. Google seach on "Fry Wisconsin Medical" turned up no John Fry.

http://www.med.wisc.edu/About/DeansGreeting.asp

23 posted on 06/08/2002 8:06:39 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: adakotab
Methinks this story may be bogus.

Please explain.

24 posted on 06/08/2002 8:06:55 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Love of Country
bttt
25 posted on 06/08/2002 8:20:53 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Love of Country
I do not wish to appear insensitive to your real plight -- but this can hardly be seen as rare or surprising in institutions of higher education.

When last I worked at a large state university (mid 1980's) they were already fervently anti-American -- and I don't just mean majorities, I mean there was only one line of thought that was acceptable and it was openly expected to be universal amongst those who worked there.

Of all the rot that we see afflicting this great country, there is no rot greater than in institutions of higher education. Nothing good can ever be expected from these cess pools. They are beyond redemption.

26 posted on 06/08/2002 8:23:50 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Love of Country
I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me.

See an employment lawyer and sue both universities. Sue MSU for breach of promise and Univesity of Wisconsin for slander. Also go after University of Wisconsin for academic freedom issues.

On the other hand, how naive can you be? The University of Wisconsin and Michigan State (my alma mater) are two of the most disgusting liberal and PC universities in the Midwest. Did you really think you could challenge these towel heads and get away with it. The only reason the university would have had them up there talking about Islam is to meet the universities idea of making nice and being sure that you and your associates do not think poorly of another culture. You by challenging them and suggesting that the aim of Islam was not love and that Islam was a cult undermined their effort and made it appear that you were a bigot for believing these things, especially since you were quoting the Bible. In the future, realize that there is no upside career wise to challenging these multiculturalists at PC universities.

27 posted on 06/08/2002 8:25:06 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: adakotab
You want to be a bit more precise?
Like - show us the 'english as second language' part?
Seems that you (and Semper Libertas above) are awfully quick to jump on another issue or to discredit the posting,
and to do so on uncertain assumptions...

For record, I was laid off once for having advocated the 'wrong' group of persons legally mandated for affirmative action.
It does happen.

28 posted on 06/08/2002 8:25:30 AM PDT by norton
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To: Love of Country
A short glossary of Leftist Euphemisms:

Multiculturalism = anti-Christianity or a philosophy that equally respects all cultures as good except Christian culture

Diversity = Affirmative Action or hiring and promotion based primarily on gender and race.

Tolerance = official and unofficial persecution of un-politically-correct speech. i.e. federal hate speech laws

29 posted on 06/08/2002 8:31:48 AM PDT by Tralfaze McWatt
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To: kezekiel
Google seach on "Fry Wisconsin Medical" turned up no John Fry.

The last name is spelled "Frey." Here is his bio:

John J Frey

30 posted on 06/08/2002 8:33:36 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
Frey's biography explains everything. He is a propagandist, not a physician.
31 posted on 06/08/2002 8:40:05 AM PDT by gaspar
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32 posted on 06/08/2002 8:43:09 AM PDT by WIMom
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To: Love of Country
Another reason they may not have been crazy about Dr. Curtiss is that he may be the same Dr. Michael Curtiss who ran for Congress in Illinois two years ago as a strong advocate of gun rights. My guess is that academic physicians in this speciality tend to be very liberal on gun control. Anyway, halfway through the following interesting link there is mention of a Michael Curtiss, and I know from other links that this Michael Curtiss is also a physician:

Republican gun raffle raises cash for some, angers others

If our Dr. Curtiss and the Dr. Curtiss who ran in Illinois are the same person, this must be his bio:

Dr. Mike Curtis MD

33 posted on 06/08/2002 8:47:05 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Love of Country
I think it's time to give the FBI a call.
34 posted on 06/08/2002 8:47:06 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Leonard210
Papers filed with EEOC two months ago. I got your urban legend right here, pal!
35 posted on 06/08/2002 8:55:54 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: adakotab
What? Talk is cheap, this is war!
36 posted on 06/08/2002 8:57:46 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: Love of Country
Hey LoveofCountry, please don't take it personally... everything has to be taken with a grain of salt on the internet. Good luck in your case, please keep us posted, and God Bless you and your wife.
37 posted on 06/08/2002 9:02:11 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Love of Country
If true, the beginning of the end.
38 posted on 06/08/2002 9:04:43 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Love of Country
These people, the academia and the Islamics, are the enemy, and yet, we continue to allow them to live amongst us and work to destroy us.
39 posted on 06/08/2002 9:07:50 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Love of Country
I was thinking of bumping this to one of their "famous" alumni: Suzy Favor-Hamilton. She's due for a "live chat" session with them on one of their school websites. I wonder if she'd say something about this.

Mrs Kus

40 posted on 06/08/2002 9:09:40 AM PDT by cgk
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To: semper_libertas
"The problem is they no longer have sufficient diginity, or moral bearing, to become aroused by anything other than the most blatant of insults, such as 9/11. "

It would be interesting to see how much support there is now in the US to continue the "War On Terrorism." But, anyway, you are right. The American people are weak now.

41 posted on 06/08/2002 9:12:15 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: norton
The grammatical errors alone are enough to make me doubt this guy has earned the educational requirements of an MD. I know I make an awful lot of careless mistakes while posting but this guy really sucks.


On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.

42 posted on 06/08/2002 9:12:44 AM PDT by adakotab
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To: adakotab
For your reading pleasure.

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Frey MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam". After two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers called for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims' true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner by the United States government"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan State no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask innocuous questions.

I'm prepared to sue.

43 posted on 06/08/2002 9:14:14 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: FITZ
"I blame the liberal universities for much of what happened Sept 11 and before. Muslims have little contact with real Americans, they meet most Americans in the universities ---they formed an opinion of us from the limp-wristed liberals they've met....

Bingo.

While muslims complain that Americans don't know or understand Islam, the fact is, most Amerrican Christians know a lot more about Islam than most muslims know about Christianity. After you've discussed Koran, try talking about the Bible, or Jesus, with them. Most of them know nothing at all. Their expectation (coming out of their mind-set) is that the Universities would represent the finest in leading christian theology, when the reality is that the theologians in these schools have become so wrapped up secularism and phenomenological approaches that they have made themselves irrelevant to the christian movement in the world today. They just don't matter. Yet the muslim student sees them as normative. Big problem.

44 posted on 06/08/2002 9:17:58 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: adakotab
I would be reluctant to post if I thought most readers would be annoyed by my grammar errors. Yea, it's lazy to not always run through a spell checker, but like many of us here, I don't always do it. As a history major, I would say that Dr. Curtiss wrote pretty well for a science major, even in his first time around. Really good writing almost always requires the services of a skilled editor, but since none of us here have one, we shouldn't expect anything better than what Dr. Curtiss gave us. I certainly understood his initial story and find it a powerful one. If, I as I expect, it is true, Dr. Curtiss's 15 minutes are at hand.

Hmm. I really don't know whether the apostrophe in the last sentence of the previous paragraph was correctly placed. But that "Post Reply" button looks pretty tempting, so . . .

45 posted on 06/08/2002 9:29:43 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Love of Country
However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

And what relevance to the study of medicine did this have?

I am so sorry for your problem. I hope that it can be resolved to the benefit of your family and humankind. This is the most outrageous thing I've heard today. God Bless you and yours.

46 posted on 06/08/2002 9:33:04 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Love of Country
The Universities are first and foremost antiAmerican. Absent this war, Moslems were just more religious nuts.
Now that they have shown the good sense to declare war on America, the Universities adopt them as Saints-who-can do-no-wrong.After all if they want to kill Americans and Jews then they are perforce on the side of the angels. Academia is rapidly becoming a very dangerous "fifth column" which America has not the will, and will never have the will, to deal with, except to apologize to. The bureaucrats and the political elite canot but feel that the professors are wiser than the politicians and should probably be deferred to.
47 posted on 06/08/2002 9:34:06 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: floriduh voter
Click on the link at reply #30 to see what I mean about color.
48 posted on 06/08/2002 9:41:58 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cookcounty
Discussing the bible with these people is quite hopeless, because wherever the bible is not in agreement with the Koran or with Hadith, it is due to the Christian authors having lied in order to create a religion that would give them position and justify their flouting of Allah's Law.

They enthusiastically agree that Jesus was born of Mary, a virgin, but from that point on all is lies. With that mindset, one cannot argue anything.

49 posted on 06/08/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Love of Country
OK if I use your name when I contact UW?
50 posted on 06/08/2002 9:45:08 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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