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MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY (GUN CONTROL)
NewaMax.com | June 12, 2002 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 06/11/2002 11:07:01 PM PDT by Pistol

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To: Pistol;*bang_list

Many of the local and state groups formed independently of the NRA have warned about this for some time.

On the National Level Gunowners of America, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Citizens of America, Right to Keep And Bear Arms etc. have also questioned this approach.

For whatever reason the NRA has more of an "inside the beltway" mentality than a pro 2nd Amendment, pro Constitution mentality.

As with so many other things, real Americans need to regain control of the NRA.

Best regards,

21 posted on 06/12/2002 6:13:38 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: madfly
fyi
22 posted on 06/12/2002 8:54:38 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: AAABEST
>>>Reagan man was right on.

Actually Ronald Reagan supported the Brady Bill. As Governor of Calif, Reagan signed gun legislation that imposed a 15 day waiting period. As President, Reagan supported "Brady-like" legislation at the state level.

" It is called the Brady Bill, and Reagan said Congress should enact it without delay. ``It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun,'' the former president said."

23 posted on 06/12/2002 9:45:46 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Free the USA, Knighthawk, Free Vulcan, BARLF, Constitutional Patriot, WRhine, Marine Inspector
ping
24 posted on 06/12/2002 9:48:27 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Pistol
From the article: 'Healy advises President Bush to abandon Project Safe Neighborhoods, because it is an "affront to the Constitution and the rule of law." No one should be surprised when many of those prosecuted in the name of Safe Neighborhoods are hapless gun owners who are no threat to society. '

The affront to the Constitution was the passing of this unConstitutional garbage by Congress and Presidents who signed the laws. The only way to rid ourselves of these onerous laws is to prosecute them until the Supreme Court is forced to rule. Selective prosecution is a dangerous power to grant to the government and should be avoided. If the law is on the books, then prosecute.

25 posted on 06/12/2002 10:35:34 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Pistol
From the article: 'Outraged at the lack of prosecutorial judgment, he [a judge] asked: "How far is this policy of locking up people with guns going to go? Who decided this is a federal crime?" '

This is the very valuable beginning to a process which will eventually end when judges recognize the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as the law of the land. Like Judge Cummings in the Emerson case, they need to dismiss due to violation of the Second Amendment and force the appeals courts to deal with the consequences. Failure to do this duty is a great part of why we find ourselves in the present mess.

26 posted on 06/12/2002 10:39:00 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Wardaddy
ping
27 posted on 06/12/2002 11:03:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
The vast majority convicted as "armed felons" had no record of violent felonies.

This stuff gives me the "willies". It's no slap on the wrist when the Feds pick up the charge for "unlawful possession of a "firearm" by a felon". The Statuatory minimum is 5 years. Make that a an illegal class three weapon and you are gone for a long time...I think 20 years. Fed time means 87% if you get the 54 days/year good time. How the Crippen girl in the article only got 18 months is interesting. Either the judge bucked the min/mans (almost impossible) or she cooperated in another matter.

Now Clinton yanked the US Marshall's previous right to restore gun rights to felons who applied with good intent and Bush and Ashcroft sure don't sound like they are going to do anything to help. Another 20 years or so and probably 1 in 20 American males of adult age will be vulnerable to these draconian laws ...some even with only misdemeanor records. Problem is....how does one start a political movement to restore gun rights to felons who've "paid their debt" as they say?...LOL....might as well try to build a rocket to the moon with Sterno cans.

The pivotal time will come when enough "normal joe" American families have a loved one doing time for this overkill law. Then folks might pay attention. For now, if one is busted for a firearm violation, they better hope the Feds don't grab the case.

28 posted on 06/12/2002 11:29:21 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy;Travis McGee
You guys know when the Assault Weapons Ban is due for reauthorization? That one's a real beauty for creating hordes of new "gun felons".
29 posted on 06/12/2002 11:42:11 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: wardaddy
Strictly following trendlines, the future of these laws looks grim.

But we may get some applecart upsetting events in the near to midterm which will sweep this nonsense away.

30 posted on 06/12/2002 12:44:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Pistol
Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

31 posted on 06/12/2002 1:14:07 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Pistol
Reporter David Holthouse examined 191 Colorado federal firearm cases.

David Holthouse article posted here:
Living in Exile -- Federal prisons are filling up with people whose only crime is gun possession

32 posted on 06/12/2002 1:15:02 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Copernicus
"As with so many other things, real Americans need to regain control of the NRA."

Real Americans should join a gun group. The politicians aren't afraid of gun organizations that have 5% of the gun owners. They certainly aren't afraid of any group that has less that a half million in their membership.

33 posted on 06/12/2002 2:17:55 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: madfly
Thanks for the "Ping".

And, Bump.

34 posted on 06/12/2002 7:40:39 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
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35 posted on 06/18/2002 12:41:29 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Pistol
The surest way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it rigorously.

- Abraham Lincoln

36 posted on 06/18/2002 12:46:20 PM PDT by fire_eye
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