Skip to comments.Cretigo: Bingo game on the Crevo threads!
Posted on 06/12/2002 3:00:11 PM PDT by Gladwin
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It's kind of the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 effect - by turning the 'debate' into a game, creationist arguments don't seem as monotonously painful as usual (plus the fact that everyone playing will read every single word - for the very next thing the creationist says could WIN IT ALL!!)
Burden Of Proof Fallacy:
the claim that whatever has not yet been proved false must be true (or vice versa). Essentially the arguer claims that he should win by default if his opponent can't make a strong enough case. There may be two problems here. First, the arguer claims priority - but why is it him who wins by default? And second, he is impatient with ambiguity, and wants a final answer right away. A counter-argument is the phrase "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Argument By Question:
asking your opponent a question which does not have a snappy answer. (Or anyway, no snappy answer that the audience has the background to understand.) Your opponent has a choice: he can look weak or he can look long-winded. For example, "How can scientists expect us to believe that anything as complex as a single living cell could have arisen as a result of random natural processes?" Actually, pretty well any question has this effect to some extent. It usually takes longer to answer a question than ask it. Variants are the rhetorical question, and the loaded question, such as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
You forgot "Yes or No?"
BTW...what the heck is this post about?
I agree with you there, IMO. Still, it's a huge leap to go from there to saying that he never does.
Why dont we just put the ID card on the table.
Note: for the many who will probably not even read the link, just mark your Dembski spot now.
IMHO, I think God (that is not the Deity's name, you know) does intervene, sometimes in major ways. For myself, I'm not going to say that he did not directly intervene in the creation of people-kind.
Generally agree, especially in regard to cosmology and natural History.
Possible/likely exceptions (no evidence, just my gut):
- Big Bang
- End of the Planck Era
- First life
As to human History, since I believe that man is a pivotal goal of Creation, His intervention with humanity is ongoing, but usually sublime.
Miracles and unequivocal Divine interventions are rare.
| W. Misuse and Misunderstandings of the ToE
'Evolution is RACISM/ATHEISM/RELIGION !!"
|Oddly assumes that since evolution is based on assumptions, and religion is based on assumptions, that evolution is therefore a religion (ie, accepted as true WITHOUT evidence).
Also assumes that one must give up God to accept the validity of evolution (false).
Since the ToE is purely a biological theory that explains how life changes over time, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say about morals, ethics, theology, philosophy, or cultural development, which is why claims like "the end product of the PHILOSOPHY of evolutionISM is the erosion of morality !!" belong in this category.
I would add Evolution also has nothing to say about strictly theological matters that atheists believe to be "superstition."
W may catch as many Evos as Crevos.
What is the one major item that causes you to doubt the existence of an Intelligent Designer?
There's another form of this: the shifting of the dividing line between "microevolution" and "macroevolution". As scientists discover more and more extreme examples of genetic or morphological change within populations, creationists change the definition of "microevolution". In recent years it's gone from covering only changes in the relative frequency of brown vs. white moths, to covering the separation of closely related species. No matter how dramatically evolution progresses in the future, they'll be able to say, "oh, that's just microevolution."
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