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Why I'm not a conservative
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 6/13/02 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 06/13/2002 8:27:39 AM PDT by christine

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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
I have had it with folks bleating, "Well, when we're in a time of war, blah, blah, blah ..."

Yeah. This boils my blood, too.

41 posted on 06/13/2002 10:00:34 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Kevin Curry
It means adopting, supporting, and living a God-based personal morality of right and wrong even if one does not consider oneself particularly religious.

You forgot shooting anyone who doesn't agree with your idea of morality.

42 posted on 06/13/2002 10:01:01 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: tacticalogic
I think "constitutional reactionaries" would be more appropriate.

If you are a "reactionary" it intimates that you are reacting to the opponent.
If your opponent acts first you have lost the initiative.
I want to be the one that acts first and make them 'react' to me.

Admittedly, that is going to take a while to be able to do.
I still don't want to get into the mindset of 'reacting' when I should be initiating.

43 posted on 06/13/2002 10:11:40 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
If you are a "reactionary" it intimates that you are reacting to the opponent. If your opponent acts first you have lost the initiative. I want to be the one that acts first and make them 'react' to me.

Admittedly, that is going to take a while to be able to do. I still don't want to get into the mindset of 'reacting' when I should be initiating.

I think you're confusing "reactionary" with "reactive".

44 posted on 06/13/2002 10:23:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Kermit
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people ...

Benjamin Franklin

You libertarians are part of the problem.

45 posted on 06/13/2002 10:25:36 AM PDT by mconder
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To: Kevin Curry
Our Constitutional Republic will self-restore when Americans self-reform.

Though I agree with the statements you made following the above assertion, I do not agree that our Republic will self-restore. Too much power has been consolidated among too few. Our country is run by an elite oligarchy, who impose their will, under the guise of a voters' mandate. We've already lost our freedom and no one....NO ONE...is going to give it back. If it is to be, it will have to be taken. And I don't think enough Americans have the stomach for it.

46 posted on 06/13/2002 10:26:44 AM PDT by BillofRights
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To: tacticalogic
I think you're confusing "reactionary" with "reactive".

Same root word, 'react'.
Not to quibble semantics, would you rather hit or be hit?

47 posted on 06/13/2002 10:28:49 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
Not to quibble semantics, would you rather hit or be hit?

While they may have the same root, they have very different meanings. I don't make 'em up, I just use 'em.

48 posted on 06/13/2002 10:38:52 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
reactionary: 1.Characterized by reaction, especially opposition to progress or liberalism; extremely conservative.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

reactive: 1.Tending to be responsive or to react to a stimulus.
2.Characterized by reaction.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

revolutionary: 1. a.often Revolutionary Relating to or being a revolution: revolutionary war; a museum of the Revolutionary era.
b.Bringing about or supporting a political or social revolution: revolutionary pamphlets.
2.Marked by or resulting in radical change: a revolutionary discovery.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

Pretty similar as opposed to revolutionary.

Still, as long as we return to the constitution I don't really care what we're called.

49 posted on 06/13/2002 10:50:39 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
Still, as long as we return to the constitution I don't really care what we're called.

That "return to the constitution" part is what makes you a reactionary. A revolutionary wants to discard the whole works and start over. A liberal wants to screw with what we've already got. A conservative wants to keep what we've got, just like it is. A reactionary wants to go back to what we had before the liberals screwed with it.

50 posted on 06/13/2002 10:59:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
A revolutionary wants to discard the whole works and start over.

With what we have today I would say that discarding the whole works and starting over with the constitution IS the only way we will ever have it back.
May not be feasible, which is why I don't belong to a militia, but just the same, I don't see another way to bring the constitution back.

51 posted on 06/13/2002 11:08:41 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: mconder
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people ...

Benjamin Franklin

You libertarians are part of the problem.

How so? Libertarians are trying to save and expand the arena of human action, which is the only arena of morality. Many conservatives are trying to collectivize human action, which destroys the possibility of morality. Example, you lock someone in a cage and prevent them from taking an immoral action. Is that caged person acting morally? Answer, no, because his opportunity to act morally was taken from him.

52 posted on 06/13/2002 11:32:13 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: Just another Joe
With what we have today I would say that discarding the whole works and starting over with the constitution IS the only way we will ever have it back.

Then the question of wheather you are revolutionary or reactionary depends on wheather you (or whoever is doing the labeling) think the Constitution is still in effect at all.

May not be feasible, which is why I don't belong to a militia, but just the same, I don't see another way to bring the constitution back.

According to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, if you are between the ages of 17 and 45, you already belong to the unorganized militia.

53 posted on 06/13/2002 11:35:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: christine11
i could add a few names that we've been called: whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters....

BTTT

54 posted on 06/13/2002 11:36:15 AM PDT by Kathleen
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To: tacticalogic
Then the question of wheather you are revolutionary or reactionary depends on wheather you (or whoever is doing the labeling) think the Constitution is still in effect at all.

Very little, very small portions of the original are still in effect.

According to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, if you are between the ages of 17 and 45, you already belong to the unorganized militia.

My bad, I should have stated "organized militia".

55 posted on 06/13/2002 11:52:50 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: christine11
My reply to your post #1 Christine: Let's consider those "insults" - compliments!
56 posted on 06/13/2002 11:53:50 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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To: christine11; BoonieRat
i could add a few names that we've been called: whackos, malcontents, disrupters, tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, bushbashers, blame america firsters...."

I've been called most of those names, but based on your profile page, I'd say that that puts me in good company.

57 posted on 06/13/2002 11:55:03 AM PDT by Badray
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To: tacticalogic
I agree. Kevin seems to think it's the other way around, so I'm trying to determine if he can objectively support that theory.

The various social pathologies which clearly rose after the entrenchement of the welfare state supports your version of cause and effect.

58 posted on 06/13/2002 11:57:33 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: tacticalogic
I agree. Kevin seems to think it's the other way around, so I'm trying to determine if he can objectively support that theory.

The various social pathologies which clearly rose after the entrenchement of the welfare state supports your version of cause and effect.

59 posted on 06/13/2002 11:57:34 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: BillofRights
They Don't have the stomach for it Bill but those of us who place ourselves under the Shadow of the Wings of the Almighty will be SAFE!! PTL!!
60 posted on 06/13/2002 12:07:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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