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ABRAHAM LINCOLN: AMERICA'S GREATEST WAR CRIMINAL
Dixie Daily ^ | 6/17/02 | Ron Holland

Posted on 06/17/2002 1:35:37 PM PDT by shuckmaster

Abraham Lincoln should without a doubt be named America’s greatest war criminal. His war of invasion not only killed over 600,000 innocent Americans but it was obvious from his earlier speeches that he had previously advocated the prevalent constitutional right of democratic, state by state secession. Lincoln’s War also effectively overthrew the existing decentralized, limited federal government that had existed and governed well in the US since established by America’s founding fathers. Lincoln bastardized a respected federal government with limited powers into a dictatorial, uncontrollable Washington federal empire.

Because of Lincoln, the former American constitutional republic fell from a dream of liberty and limited government into the nightmare big government we have today without the earlier checks and balances of state sovereignty. After Lincoln, In foreign policy, the US forgot George Washington’s warning about neutrality and we became an aggressive military abroad until today we have troops defending the Washington Empire in over 144 nations around the world.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connections as possible. It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.—George Washington

Lincoln shares his war criminal actions with other well know tyrants that waged war on their own people. History shows us that politicians make war against their own citizens even more than against foreign nations. The reasons are often to establish and preserve their power base, as was the case in the Russian Revolution and the Mao Revolution. For others, like Hitler, it was misguided super patriotism and racism that brought death to tens of millions. Sadly, in the case of Abraham Lincoln’s war against the Confederacy and Southern civilians, it was all for money, company profits and government tariff revenues. A simple case of political pay back in return for the Northeastern manufacturing interests that supported the Republican Party and his campaign for the presidency.

Early in his career, Abraham Lincoln was an honorable statesman who let election year politics and the special interests supporting his presidential campaign corrupt a once great man. He knew what he was doing was wrong and unconstitutional but succumbed, as in the case of many modern day politicians, to the allure of money, power and ego.

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right - a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.
-- Abraham Lincoln January 12, 1848

This quote above shows Lincoln as a statesman 12 years before he plunged the United States into its most disastrous war. Suffering a death toll so high in death rates as a percentage of total population, his act of carnage ranks with the political genocides of Stalin, Lenin and Mao during their communist revolutions. A death toll so great that it dwarfs the American deaths in all of our many declared and undeclared wars before and since this American holocaust of death and destruction.

From the following quote you can see that later Lincoln radically adjusted his rhetoric to meet the needs and demands of his business establishment supporters and financial supporters.

No state, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union. Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy. --Abraham Lincoln

Why the complete change in rhetoric and actions? Simple, to preserve high tariffs and corporate profits for the Northeastern business establishment. Lincoln who earlier in his career had obviously favored the right of peaceful secession, provoked a war that killed 600,000 Americans, as a pay back to the eastern manufacturing establishment that bankrolled his presidential campaign. These special interests would have suffered serious financial loss if a low tariff Confederate States of America were allowed to peacefully, democratically and constitutionally secede from the United States in lawful state constitutional conventions of secession which were identical to the ratification conventions when they had joined the Union. Thus the real reasons for the death and destruction of Lincoln’s War were covered up and hidden by historians who continue, even today, to deny the truth and hide the ultimate costs of Lincoln’s American holocaust.

While Lincoln’s death toll is small in comparison to total deaths by Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler, there are many similarities between these men. In the Russian Civil War, from 1917 - 1922 around 9 million died under Lenin and we must add another 20 million under Stalin from 1929 to 1939. The Mao communist regime in China killed 44 to 70 million Chinese from 1949 – 1975.

Still the US constitutional republic, as established by our founding fathers, was in effect destroyed by Lincoln’s unconstitutional war just as surely as Mao and Lenin over threw the existing Chinese and Russian governments.

The multitude of Lincoln apologists would say that this is just another Confederate argument certainly not accepted by most historians. I might counter that the opinions and books of these "so called" establishment historians who live off my tax dollars through government funding at liberal controlled universities and think tanks are prejudiced towards Lincoln and Washington DC. They are no different from the official government historians in China, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Their job is to lie to the American people and cover up a true and honest account of our history in order to support the government and political system in power.

History shows us that a fair and honest discussion of Lincoln’s wartime actions will not be possible as long as the Washington political establishment remains in power. Since Lincoln, the Washington Empire has reigned supreme and omnipotent and for this reason, establishment historians have never honestly debated the Lincoln war crimes.

Consider this. Was a fair and honest account of Lenin or Stalin written and published during the Soviet Communist regime? Of course not. Could a less than worshipful history of Hitler’s Third Reich have been published until after 1945? No! Even today, with only nominal communist control of China, an honest appraisal of Mao’s revolution and crimes against the Chinese people still is not possible. It is no different today in the United States than it is in Red China or was in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Just as Lenin’s statue could not be toppled in Red Square until after the fall of the Soviet Communist government, or the truth about Hitler couldn’t be told until after defeat of Nazi Germany, it is the same here in the United States.

It is my hope that someday, in the not too distant future, a true account of the war crimes of Lincoln will be discussed, debated and even acknowledged. The Lincoln Memorial should be remodeled to show the horrors of "Lincoln the War Criminal" with the opportunity for all to visit Washington and learn how war crimes, genocide and holocaust are not just crimes that foreign politicians commit. Government and political tyranny can and has happened here just like in Germany, China and the Soviet Union and that through education and honest history, it will never happen here again.

In the future, may we have the opportunity to learn about the Nazi holocaust at the United States National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington and then have the chance to visit the Lincoln War Crimes and American Holocaust Museum a few blocks away. One will state for all the world that NEVER AGAIN will a tyrant or government be allowed to target, exterminate and destroy an ethnic, racial or religious minority. The other will pledge NEVER AGAIN in America will we allow a president or government to make unconstitutional war against Sovereign states or their citizens and then cover up the truth up for over 145 years.

We should start today with an honest appraisal of what Lincoln really did to Dixie, how our black and white innocent noncombatants suffered under his total war policy against civilians. Finally we should address the cost in lives, lost liberty and federal taxes the citizens of the US have had to endure because our limited constitutional republic was destroyed.

Abraham Lincoln was a great man, a smart politician and he could have been an excellent president, had he considered the short-term costs of his high tariff and the long time price every American had to pay for his war of invasion. It is time to stop worshipping Lincoln and educate the public about the war crimes he committed against the citizens of the Southern States so this WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! --Ron Holland.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Alabama; US: Arkansas; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Virginia
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Aw, Shucks!


1 posted on 06/17/2002 1:35:38 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: Constitution Day;TomServo;billbears;aomagrat;stainlessbanner;wafflehouse;archy;Moose4;Ligeia...
The truth is marching on...
2 posted on 06/17/2002 1:36:03 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster
Calling all idiots. Calling all idiots. Some great lies here get em while their cheap. Step right up. Don't miss out.

Next offering "Jesus was a Satanist."

3 posted on 06/17/2002 1:39:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: shuckmaster
I cannot express in words fore it violates the sites rules about what I think about this article, but to say, what a bunch of revisionist $^%^&%%$$#%$@^#%$&^%*%(^)&(&%&%^$#^&% crap!
4 posted on 06/17/2002 1:39:45 PM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: shuckmaster
Dixie Bump!!!
5 posted on 06/17/2002 1:40:00 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: shuckmaster
Awwwwwwwwww-- your great-grandpappy (and mine) lost. I'm over it. There's enough to worry about in the present without rehashing the past.
7 posted on 06/17/2002 1:41:04 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Poohbah; Huck; aculeus; Orual

A

for your thoughts.

8 posted on 06/17/2002 1:44:48 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Hmm. Has a village reported their idiot as missing?
9 posted on 06/17/2002 1:46:14 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: shuckmaster
There's no Dixie, except on toilet lids and paper cups.
10 posted on 06/17/2002 1:46:26 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: shuckmaster
based on the screams truth must realy sting to some.
11 posted on 06/17/2002 1:47:45 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: shuckmaster
today we have troops defending the Washington Empire in over 144 nations around the world.

That's complete bullshit.

12 posted on 06/17/2002 1:48:01 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: shuckmaster
I mean no disrespect to the South when I say that this crap is getting tiresome. Why don't you guys get your own site and swap "War of Northern Aggression" stories over there?
13 posted on 06/17/2002 1:48:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: justshutupandtakeit
From trashing Bush to trashing Lincoln. Dang we are running out of people to trash here on FR!
14 posted on 06/17/2002 1:49:54 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: shuckmaster
Lincoln truly believed in equality, and he did more to ensure that all states suffered equally under an expanding federal government than any other politician. The intrusive federal government we have today is a direct descendant of Lincoln's unconstitutional invasion of the South.
15 posted on 06/17/2002 1:50:04 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: shuckmaster
We won. You lost. Get over it.
16 posted on 06/17/2002 1:51:24 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: shuckmaster
Some truth to this article, some idiocy. Not a lot of relevence.
18 posted on 06/17/2002 1:51:55 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: shuckmaster
Lincoln, twice elected by the voters, is a war criminal equal to Hitler, Mao, Stalin?

As far as his claim that Lincoln changed his position(s) - - I say so what. Politicians do so, quite frequently. Many good reasons would exist, for a politician to change positions.

But none would be good enough for certain folks, still fighting a war, over 140 years later. It is OVER. You lost. Move on.

19 posted on 06/17/2002 1:53:02 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Billthedrill
Why don't you guys get your own site

Who do you think would be president right now if all 11 of the Confederate states hadn't voted for Bush? Why don't you Lincoln/Gore staters get YOUR own site?

20 posted on 06/17/2002 1:54:09 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
From trashing Bush to trashing Lincoln. Dang we are running out of people to trash here on FR!

LOL! Just as long as they don't mess with my man George Jones.


21 posted on 06/17/2002 1:55:25 PM PDT by Huck
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To: shuckmaster
Why don't you Lincoln/Gore staters get YOUR own site?

Welcome to Free Republic.

22 posted on 06/17/2002 1:56:16 PM PDT by Huck
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To: shuckmaster
I guess the author forgot that ole southern proverb, If you're stupid, don't advertise it. This good ole boy musta fell out of the stupid tree and hit his head on every branch on the way down.
23 posted on 06/17/2002 1:56:47 PM PDT by pt17
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To: shuckmaster
bump for the truth, for it shall set you free.
24 posted on 06/17/2002 1:56:51 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: sinkspur
Add "Dixie" beer, "Dixie", GA,, "Dixie" County, Fl., and "Dixie" Darling bread.
26 posted on 06/17/2002 1:57:33 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: PoppingSmoke
Geeeezzzz, who is this idiot Ron Holland?
One of the all time idiots of the world.
27 posted on 06/17/2002 1:58:39 PM PDT by Warren
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To: shuckmaster
The truth is marching on...

But not on shucks.net apparently.

28 posted on 06/17/2002 1:58:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Billthedrill;dighton;Orual
I mean no disrespect to the South when I say that this crap is getting tiresome.

Ditto!

29 posted on 06/17/2002 1:59:18 PM PDT by aculeus
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I mean no disrespect to the South when I say that this crap is getting tiresome.

Ditto!

30 posted on 06/17/2002 1:59:20 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: the_right_way
Holland has nothing on you for sheer stupidity.
31 posted on 06/17/2002 1:59:36 PM PDT by Warren
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To: sheltonmac
History is written by the winners, never saw a better example of it.
32 posted on 06/17/2002 1:59:49 PM PDT by steve50
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33 posted on 06/17/2002 2:00:29 PM PDT by Orual
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To: shuckmaster
Why don't you Lincoln/Gore staters get YOUR own site?

I'm neither, and that comment was just about as intelligent as the article. Meaning, not very.

34 posted on 06/17/2002 2:01:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Huck
Hey you sure wont get that from me! George and Tammy are good folk!
35 posted on 06/17/2002 2:01:54 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Billthedrill
I'll second that motion.
36 posted on 06/17/2002 2:02:22 PM PDT by TheDon
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38 posted on 06/17/2002 2:07:10 PM PDT by dighton
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I can't believe anyone even bothered to post this article, let alone write it. It's totally pointless, in fact the discussion is totally pointless.

That was then and this is now.

And for my PERSONAL opinion of the article:

39 posted on 06/17/2002 2:08:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: shuckmaster
Who do you think would be president right now if all 11 of the Confederate states hadn't voted for Bush?

I can tell you this much: we never would have had Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton in the Oval Office without the former Confederacy being allowed to vote in Union elections.

Thank y'all very much...NOT.

40 posted on 06/17/2002 2:09:22 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: dighton

41 posted on 06/17/2002 2:09:45 PM PDT by Huck
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To: shuckmaster
I thought that the Emancipation Proclamation was an amusing piece of propaganda(only freed slaves in the South).
42 posted on 06/17/2002 2:11:12 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: shuckmaster
Screw that durn Constitutional process that's going to take away our slaves! Lets start a new country with liberty and justice for the few!
43 posted on 06/17/2002 2:12:52 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Warren
Ron Holland? , you decide.....
45 posted on 06/17/2002 2:14:35 PM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: shuckmaster
You lost...Get Over It!
46 posted on 06/17/2002 2:14:52 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: all
You anti-southern bigots and racists are getting more rabid by the minute.

Just to remind you, when those you praised were finished with the south, they and their successors turned and committed genocide against the Indians (Native Americans) of the western parts of North American.

How do you justify that in your own narrow mind?

47 posted on 06/17/2002 2:15:02 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: traditionalist
Some truth to this article, some idiocy. Not a lot of relevence.

A short, concise analysis--and in so few words. Good job!

48 posted on 06/17/2002 2:16:18 PM PDT by scholar
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Good reply, Clara.

We lost, they won - nothing to do about it 140 years later.

Well, not quite true - we can do what we can to keep them up there. :)

49 posted on 06/17/2002 2:16:49 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Naw, there will never be a shortage of enemies to attack around here even if some are obsessed with those from 150 years ago. These folks haven't even started looking under their beds yet.

Don't get me started on Thomas Jefferson.

50 posted on 06/17/2002 2:16:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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