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Motive for Florida Slaying Mystery
Pilotonline ^ | 6/17/02 | Amy Jeter

Posted on 06/18/2002 2:19:55 PM PDT by Boxsford

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1 posted on 06/18/2002 2:19:55 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Ann Archy
Quite the murder mystery!
2 posted on 06/18/2002 2:21:39 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Boxsford
smugglers falling out?
3 posted on 06/18/2002 4:12:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: Boxsford; Betty Jo; All
This is really a murder mystery that needs a motive attached to it....what could the MOTIVE be? we know who was killed...when he was killed...where he was killed and Who killed him, but we don't know WHY!! People just don't go hundreds of miles to kill someone without a reason.

Why the bike...was it His bike...did he bring hs bike?? why take ten days off to gofor a job interview and then have 9 days left??/

Freepers...I need your help on this one!

4 posted on 06/18/2002 6:09:24 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy;OKCSubmariner;Fred Mertz;iwentsouth;rdavis84;aristeides;Archy
Ann Archy, I have been googling this for a couple of weeks.

The family business,Brown Helicopter,Inc. buys and sells surplus military helicopter parts,at least that is what the net says.

There are mucho contracts with DOD.

So, was Brown into stolen helo parts?

The Florida Sec of State corporation docs lists a "Daryl L. Roberts" as the Sec of the company.

A googling turns up that name as a chemical engineer who is big time into air particle sampling, as in bio-chem-weapon particle sampling.

Daryl L. Roberts has contracts with DOD and DOE etc.

Brown Helo says it is a different "Daryl L. Roberts" on the board.

True?

What did the other sibs die from?

Is William Harbour a CIA agent posing as a civilian attorney employee of the Joint Forces Command?

What is/was his special legal field?

What was the job in Biloxi?

Were they both in Viet Nam together?

It would be helpful if the Brown family would go more public and talk about the company and the deaths in the family.

Has anybody else died in the company?

Will the US military cover up whatever the truth is?

Questions, questions!

5 posted on 06/18/2002 7:21:30 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo; Donald Stone; thinden; Boyd; SLB; Wally Cleaver; Plummz; Nita Nupress; sawdring...
How could a seemingly routine exchange escalate to murder? she asked Friday.

Thanks for the flag, Betty Jo, and for your initial research.

On the surface, I don't buy any of the alleged reasons offered up. There's something deeper beneath the surface. This is more of a mystery than the Chandra Levy murder.

I'm going to ping some more sleuths to this story. Thanks again.

6 posted on 06/18/2002 7:46:46 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz;Ann Archy;Boxsford;marron
What law school in Arkansas?

Pine Bluff Aresenal in Arkaksas?

Dont tell me he knew C L I N T O N ??

7 posted on 06/18/2002 7:59:29 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Fred Mertz
"Harbour, an attorney and outdoorsman, has been married to the same woman for more than three decades.

He attended college and law school in Arkansas, where a friend introduced him to his future wife, Linda." ---- Maiden Name?

"Harbour has been a civilian employee of the Defense Department for about two decades. During that time, he has worked at an Army chemical munitions repository in Pine Bluff, Ark., on a volunteer assignment to rebuild the Haitian government in 1994, and most recently at an Army base in Vicenza, Italy. ---- A Clinton/Dixie Mafia Player?

8 posted on 06/18/2002 8:09:35 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Betty Jo
More than Likely. Need his wife's Maiden Name.
9 posted on 06/18/2002 8:11:12 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; Joe Montana; zog; Ol' Dan Tucker
There is so much here to sink your teeth and mind into, and I haven't a clue as to what really happened.

I just caught this story in the past hour for the first time. Something tells me it could be big, or it could be a love spat; but, right now, it's a big mystery.

10 posted on 06/18/2002 8:15:17 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz; rdavis84
What the heck is this new format? Does this mean we can post anonymously now? And y'all thought I was rude BEFORE. Now I can be rude and blame it on someone else! LOL!

About Mr. Harbour... This is all I have time for and it's not much. Can't find his wife's maiden name and have no idea how you'd get that online.

 

Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

Pensacola News Journal 
March 19, 2002 

Possible bomb found at Brown Helicopters 
Staff 

Investigators are still trying to determine if a device found at Brown Helicopters about 11 a.m. Monday is a bomb. 

An employee called the Sheriff's Office and reported that he had found what appeared to be a bomb strapped underneath a truck at the business at 10100 Aileron Ave. Deputies, Escambia County EMS and Escambia County Fire and Rescue responded to the scene. 

Deputies immediately found the device and secured the area. Rhonda Ray, spokeswoman for the Sheriff's Office, said the device had all the components of a bomb although it still hasn't been determined if it was one. 

The bomb squad for the State Fire Marshal's Office disarmed it, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is investigating the device. 


Another one to follow in a minute.
11 posted on 06/18/2002 9:19:57 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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This one gives a summary of the arrest report from the Escambia County Sheriff's Office.

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The Virginian-Pilot
(Norfolk, Va.) 
May 28, 2002 

PORTSMOUTH MAN CHARGED IN FLA. KILLING 
AMY JETER THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT 

A Portsmouth man has been charged with murder in connection with the fatal stabbing of a Florida man on his wedding day. 

William Clyde Harbour, 52, of the 100 block of Broad St. [Portsmouth], is accused of attacking a man behind his Pensacola, Fla., house Saturday morning. 

According to a police report, Harbour chased the man and stabbed him repeatedly in the upper torso with a long-blade knife. Harbour is being held without bond in Escambia County Jail, and he is scheduled for arraignment June 14. The victim, James Dudley Brown, 51, died Saturday of stab wounds. He was scheduled to marry Angela Fell that evening, according to the Pensacola News Journal. 

An arrest report from the Escambia County Sheriff's Office gives this account of what happened: 

Harbour approached Brown behind his home, and Brown was struck with a weapon. 

Brown left a trail of blood as he ran to his driveway and across the street, where Harbour caught up with him. 

According to the police report, a witness saw Harbour use both hands to stab Brown. 

A witness said Harbour then changed clothes, wiped blood from his body and rode away on a bicycle, leaving a weapon behind. 

A police officer who stopped Harbour found a knife sheath attached to the bicycle. The sheath was later found to fit a knife the size of the one found at the scene. 

The officer also found blood on Harbour and bloody clothes in Harbour's backpack. 

In March, a bomb was found beneath a truck at Brown's family business, Brown's Helicopter, but police will not say whether they believe the bomb was related to the killing, according to the News Journal. 

The relationship between Harbour and Brown was unclear. 

Harbour's family could not be reached.


Why in the world would a man who was finally going to be able to retire do something as stupid as this? Mob hits don't happen this way. And how did Brown know to look under his car earlier to find the bomb? He would have have to be suspicious for some reason to even look.

Weird. Ping me for any new developments.

13 posted on 06/18/2002 9:32:24 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Fred Mertz
Aside from forensics theres only one side to this story....... I could make a SWAG as to what occured but will just sit back and read the post's instead ;o)

Stay Safe !
14 posted on 06/18/2002 10:45:44 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Boxsford
Brown... told federal agents of his concerns that something may happen during his upcoming wedding

I still suspect official, or semi-official, or even free-lance smuggling, with someone not getting his cut. Or, being in the parts business, double billing with someone not getting his cut. Or someone getting ready to talk to authorities and someone else making sure that didn't happen.

But I would be curious to know a little about Angela Fell's background. Did she know Harbour? Did she have DOD contacts?

The wedding seems to have some significance, but I can't imagine what.

15 posted on 06/19/2002 12:16:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: Boxsford
During the Clinton years, and maybe still, there was a scam used by the Chinese to obtain high-tech military hardware, such as missile guidance systems. It required someone in the DOD to certify the hardware as "surplus".

It would then be sold off to a company specializing in military surplus, who would then transship the stuff to China.

The Chinese would work through US surplus dealers, sometimes buying the company, but always maintaining US citizens as the owners of record, in order to preserve access to DOD surplus.

So you have a lawyer on the inside, who could arrange certification, and Brown, a military surplus parts dealer.

I'm reaching here, but Clinton's gone, and our relations with the Chinese are evolving. Maybe people are bailing and covering their tracks?

How's that for a Grand Unified Theory?

16 posted on 06/19/2002 12:26:04 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron; Boxsford; Ann Archy; Fred Mertz; rdavis84; OKCSubmariner
He interviewed at the Stennis Space Center!
17 posted on 06/19/2002 3:16:09 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
Lets see if this new system works!

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18 posted on 06/19/2002 3:21:09 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Ann Archy; Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner; aristeides; marron; Boxsford
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19 posted on 06/19/2002 3:28:00 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Ann Archy; Iwentsouth; Wallaby
This new system is wonderfull!!!

http://www.weartv.com/news/Sto ries/may/0530/brownmurder.htm
20 posted on 06/19/2002 3:33:02 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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