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Chris Lehane: DWI Story Cost Bush Popular Vote
NewsMax.com ^ | Wednesday June 19, 2002; 12:19 p.m. EDT | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/19/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by Jean S

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1 posted on 06/19/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
Chris Lehane is a little puke.
2 posted on 06/19/2002 9:51:05 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: JeanS
So like the 'rats. Pull out a last minute smear about a long-ago incident, and rely on the media wing of the party to blow it up. Count on the public (dumbed - down courtesy of the "education" wing of the party) to lack perspective, thus overlooking that only shortly before they were looking at something really worrisome, namely Al Gore in live debate confabulating a wholly false story (about his personal involvement in some Texas weather emergency). Ahhh, democracy!
3 posted on 06/19/2002 9:55:56 AM PDT by thucydides
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To: JeanS
Y A W N . . .
4 posted on 06/19/2002 9:57:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Mudboy Slim; Grampa Dave; Poohbah
FYI.

This fits with the theory I have. The DWI story probably was as big a factor as the number of evangelical Christians who may have sat 2000 out.
5 posted on 06/19/2002 10:07:14 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: JeanS
Aww, poor Cwissie LeHeinous looking for some rewevance.
7 posted on 06/19/2002 10:12:59 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: JeanS
"It was a very close election. All of our internal polls show that it was literally a dead heat,"

Let's see, this is coming from that faggy little twerp Lehane, so we'll turn the de-spin-erator loose on it:

"It was not a very close election until we rigged the polling stations. All of our internal polls show that it was literally a dead heat, and then some senile senior spiked the Buchanan chad!"

8 posted on 06/19/2002 10:14:42 AM PDT by Henchster
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To: begtodiffer
Truly gifted and cunning criminals, such as Bill Clinton, can evade arrest over and over again.
9 posted on 06/19/2002 10:17:13 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: JeanS
Uh, Chris. Voter fraud gave Algore a good many of the popular votes he supposedly got. While Algore, Joe, and the DNC denied many in the military their right to vote.

Word to the wise, Chrissy: You really don't want to go there...

10 posted on 06/19/2002 10:17:48 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: JeanS
Separated at birth

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Tom Connolly.............Fire Marshall Bill

11 posted on 06/19/2002 10:34:58 AM PDT by Paul In Cape Two
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To: begtodiffer
And by the way...does it really matter now? Bush is the president.

Probably not, I can't see how dragging this up again in '04 is going to help them, although theyll try something having to do with "old stuff". This is no more interesting than Gores pot smoking when he was a reporter, but I wish Rove had let this out months earlier .. Oh well.. here's hoping Gore runs again.

12 posted on 06/19/2002 10:36:52 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: begtodiffer
I don't know why people would have a problem with truthful facts about a candidate being revealed...................... As opposed to untruthful facts?
13 posted on 06/19/2002 10:37:38 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: JeanS
Chris, how about a beer just to show there's no hard feelings? Have an ice cold glass of Butt Head Doppelbock (Tommyknocker Brewery, Red Zone).
14 posted on 06/19/2002 10:44:07 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JeanS; Coop; Hugh Akston; Common Tator
As discussed at the time, it and the network's early calls. The vote fraud by the Rats also padded some numbers as well. As to the DWI, it was the presshole's "why didn't W tell us, can he be trusted?" mantra for 4 days. In short, they raised a Clinton question as to W's honesty and it almost worked. Zogby picked the 2-1 break for Gore by undecideds, hence his accuracy. Too dang close for comfort, IMHO....
15 posted on 06/19/2002 10:44:25 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: JeanS
Although almost two years have passed since this DWI story broke, I seem to remember that Lehane's sister had a hand in this last ditch democratic leak to sway votes.
16 posted on 06/19/2002 10:48:21 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Clara Lou
Chris Lehane is a little puke.

You forgot slimy.

17 posted on 06/19/2002 10:49:01 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Quilla
Didn't LeAnus's sister work in the courthouse where these papers were filed???

Demcrats would KILL to win...and have. And vote fraud!!! It's their speciality!!

18 posted on 06/19/2002 11:00:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: mewzilla
I've always believed that you can prove the effect of the DWI story thru the votes of Oregon.

Oregon was mail-in only. The ballots they opened up and counted on Election Night, reflected the votes that had been mailed, perhaps, two days prior to election Day. Then, more ballots trickled in, which reflect ballots cast in the last two days before the election.

By comparing the percentages, you can tell if the DWI story had more negative effect on Bush votes IN THE LAST TWO DAYS prior to the election, than those cast and counted by Oregon on Election Night.

19 posted on 06/19/2002 11:00:56 AM PDT by berned
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To: Henchster
"It was a very close election. All of our internal polls show that it was literally a dead heat," the former top Goreman added. "I think there was a small percentage but a critical percentage of people who were literally themselves up in the air until the last 24 hours."

Lehane continued:

"And when the DWI story broke, for a lot of people who were on the fence trying to figure out which way to go, that sort of pushed them to towards Gore. They had real reservations about Bush's judgment and whether he was up to the job."

The reason there were so many "undecideds" is that the media kept on pushing the myth that the "undecideds" were the new new, cool position to take. Most of these people had huge reservations about voting for Algore, even though the media told them to do so night and day. Since that did not work, this story about "undecideds" kept on getting pushed just so these people would not commit to Bush. So when this DUi story broke, alot of these people bought the media line. Couple this with massive vote fraud not sen since 1960, then you have Bush losing the popular vote.

20 posted on 06/19/2002 11:01:22 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Quilla
Yes, the slimey little puke's sister had a hand in this. Apparently, everyone in the family is infected with the "slimey little puke" gene. It's a mutation common to liberals, apparently. George Stephanopoulus is another example.
21 posted on 06/19/2002 11:03:19 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: JeanS
My finest moment on FR was when we Chris Lehane publicly announced the number to call in for a Gore Campaign conference call. Who here remembers that? It was great. Of course some of the people who missed the fun were mad at us for the level of disruption that we caused.
22 posted on 06/19/2002 11:04:26 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: JeanS
I'm STILL trying to figure out what the "Popular Vote" has to do with the price of tea in China............
23 posted on 06/19/2002 11:05:49 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: JeanS
Lehane, Lehane...lesseee....

Wasn't he the one with teeth that looked like a picket fence after a tornado?

24 posted on 06/19/2002 11:13:33 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: JeanS
billclinton did massive organized election fraud
by a miracle of God a tsunami of votes for Bush overwhelmed the fraud

I figure one/third of Gore's votes were from non existent voters
(he never got his own base on board)
and a million votes for Bush were ''lost''

I walked on broken glass to vote for Bush cause I knew billclinton would be our dictator (behind puppet al gore) if we didn't get Bush in
plus Bush is kind good person

my father-in-law, a union man and lifelong Dem voter voted for Bush
cause he said ''we have to get the crooks out of office''
I don't know how many liberals and Dem voters crossed Party lines because of this
I was still an ultra liberal when I realized billclinton would get rid of our Constitution, which is why I fought so hard for his Impeachment
I vowed never to vote Dem again when I watched the Dems collapse into corruption and keep him in power

the Dems made mistake on the gun issue
they thought it would get soccer moms to vote for them
it is the independents now who decide the elections
but soccer moms didn't care, and voted for Bush
and every gun owner in USA from left wing to right wing voted for Bush too
the Dems won't make that mistake again
but Dem Party has been taken over by gangsters, as soon as their voters realize it, they will be finished
Love, Palo

the GOP remains wholesome Party
however I plan to vote Libertarian from now on
cause I want to stop the war on drugs
25 posted on 06/19/2002 11:26:10 AM PDT by palo verde
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I also want to get rid of the income tax
let citizens keep their money
government wastes 60% of what we give them
government will learn how to get value for our money if they are on strict budget
and citizens will get joy from the money they can now keep
26 posted on 06/19/2002 11:43:11 AM PDT by palo verde
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To: palo verde
Great thoughts .... but join the other conservatives in voting for the most conservative/libertarian candidate running in the Republican primaries. If enough people are libertarian leaning, then the Republicans will become more libertarian ... and we will get there.

By voting "L"ibertarian vs Republican, we only dilute our power in influencing the Republicans, and we give the victory to the Demoncrats.

The Libertarians have already offically stated that their policy will be to run in many Congressional elections to help defeat Republicans and throw control of the House to Demoncrats. Be prepared for more government growth, tax and spend, etc.

Mike

27 posted on 06/19/2002 11:59:05 AM PDT by Vineyard
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To: palo verde
I was still an ultra liberal when I realized billclinton would get rid of our Constitution, which is why I fought so hard for his Impeachment

Bill Clinton lied to get elected: "It is time to quit coddling the butchers of Beijing"--then he traitorously gave them our missile guidance, our warheads, our supercomputers, and guided tours of every base, platform, installation, and exercise--while cutting defense spending 40% and tripling deployments. . . .

. . .including December, 1998's cruise missile ejaculation on Iraq to delay his Impeachment. . . .

Our Third District New Mexican Congressman Bill Redmond called me that night that he was getting together with other congressmen to be sure the vote proceeded--and it did.

It was common knowledge among congressmen that Clinton knew he would be impeached, and concocted the strategy to be impeached for Monica--not China.

When the Cox Report broke, Clinton had a war going in Yugoslavia--to blot it out, and to further deplete our readiness.

When 2000 came, the media gave Gore states with 0% of precincts reporting, while withholding Bush states with 60%.

The manufacturer of the Vote-A-Matic said dangling chads could only be produced by voter fraud--jamming a handful of ballots in at once, instead of just one, the legal way--unknown to Democrats. . . .

Gore sent a five-page memo describing how to disenfranchise our overseas servicemen--and now we are at war. . . .

. . .against Osama's scumbags: the Osama offered to BJ SinkShpritzer by Sudan--and refused. . . .

. . .because BJ was more interested in going after Monica and Bill Gates and Elian Gonzalez than our nation's enemies.

After all, his "wife" received donations from Hamas-front American Muslim Council--which she tried to hide as "American MUSEUM Council".

Hey, Chris LeANUS! Put your face on another campaign--and we will fix your picket fence, you Quisling Mother!

28 posted on 06/19/2002 12:02:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: mewzilla
Uh, Chris. Voter fraud gave Algore a good many of the popular votes he supposedly got. While Algore, Joe, and the DNC denied many in the military their right to vote.

You're right, of course. But, when one views each piece of the puzzle seperately, then again as a whole, it becomes readily apparent how large, sophisticated, and criminal the entire fraud effort of Sore Loserman 2000 really was.

This is a piece of that puzzle.

29 posted on 06/19/2002 1:10:23 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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To: JeanS
win the popular vote in the 2000 presidential election

All Gore won was an exercise in mathematics, Christine. There is no national popular vote for president. It's meaningless, pinhead.

30 posted on 06/19/2002 1:45:38 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: DemoSmear
it becomes readily apparent how large, sophisticated, and criminal the entire fraud effort of Sore Loserman 2000 really was

brilliant post
Love, Palo
31 posted on 06/19/2002 1:59:04 PM PDT by palo verde
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To: Vineyard
hi Mike
thank you for your generous thoughtful post
you make a good point
Love, Palo
32 posted on 06/19/2002 2:05:50 PM PDT by palo verde
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To: thucydides
I agree that the Bush story was a factor in turning the race into a virtual dead heat; but that is only a very superficial way to analyze the event. In point of fact, the real problem was in the absolutely stupid way that Karl Rove managed the campaign, which had already rallied the Gore vote--and discouraged the Bush vote--after the two conventions.

Bush's greatest asset is that he is perceived as very likeable by those viewing him on TV--a potent phenomenon, indeed, just as Clinton's sheepish, boyish manner was a potent phenomenon with many women. If Rove was playing with a full deck, he would have had a half hour in prime time reserved on all networks for an election eve, fireside type chat for Bush. That is just basic common sense. Had he had such an arrangement, the breaking of the DUI story, the weekend before, would have built the Bush audience to near Super Bowl levels.

The opportunity would have been one of the great breaks in American political history. Everyone would have tuned in to see Bush on the spot over the DUI story. But the astute way to handle that would have been with a one sentence acknowledgement that he had made a mistake a generation before. Then with the bulk of those planning to vote the next day watching, he could have talked with sincerity of his vision for America--hopefully without any of Rove's moronic PC ideas;--contrasting that vision with the lying approach of his opponent (not a generation before, but week by week in the year 2000).

I could go on, but you will get the idea. It was a natural opportunity. But where your political adviser lacks even the remotest inkling of common sense, it was wholly missed. I had many problems with Richard Nixon's repeated compromises with the wrong people; but even with a far less appealing personality, Nixon would have anihilated Al Gore with such an opportunity.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

33 posted on 06/19/2002 2:16:35 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: JeanS
I have always thought this. Here in California, up until about 10 days before the election, Bush was riding high in my district, everyone was excited, we had tons of volunteers, and then suddenly ... nothing. Silence. Dead.
34 posted on 06/19/2002 2:26:23 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Rodney King
Ah yes, a great Freep it was. I'm a Horowitz devotee - All's fair in love, war & politics.
35 posted on 06/19/2002 2:43:21 PM PDT by Seeking the truth
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To: JeanS
What a bunch of crock!!! Good grief! Will these people never get over the last election?? The only reason Gore managed to get the popular vote was because THE DEMS CHEATED!!!
36 posted on 06/19/2002 7:03:16 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Ohioan
In point of fact, the real problem was in the absolutely stupid way that Karl Rove managed the campaign, which had already rallied the Gore vote--and discouraged the Bush vote--after the two conventions.

Agreed. I keep hearing about what a political genius Rove is supposed to be, but there have been many times I've been puzzled as to what he is thinking. One thing that really bothered me was how Bush basically took off the final two days before the election. Meanwhile, while Bush is taking it easy, you had Al Gore working his a*s off on a 48-hour whirlwind tour of several swing states. Rove got complacent at the end, and it nearly cost them.

37 posted on 06/19/2002 8:01:30 PM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Rodney King
Absolutely THE most hilarious event ever to appear in this forum........here's the link, hope ya'll got yer DEPENDS on... LINK TO AL GORE CONFERENCE CALL
38 posted on 06/19/2002 8:05:21 PM PDT by soozla
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To: begtodiffer
It was a fact that Bush had been arrested (more than once).

What were the other arrests?

40 posted on 06/19/2002 8:19:12 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Psst! It was fuzzy math.
41 posted on 06/19/2002 8:22:04 PM PDT by rintense
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To: JeanS
bump
42 posted on 06/19/2002 8:24:48 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: begtodiffer
It was a fact that Bush had been arrested (more than once).

Source, please.

44 posted on 06/19/2002 8:57:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: begtodiffer
Souce?
45 posted on 06/19/2002 9:02:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: begtodiffer
You're going to have to do better than The American Prospect as a source, old pal. That's NOT considered a "source" around here -- only toilet paper.

You'll pardon me for being so testy, but I've read all your posts, and some of them don't seem very conservative and/or informative.

Produce.

49 posted on 06/20/2002 5:18:14 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: begtodiffer
THE GUARDIAN?????????????

Good grief. You're embarassing yourself.

50 posted on 06/20/2002 5:19:55 AM PDT by Howlin
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