Bush's Palestinian Plan Questioned (Lieberman wants more Palestinians in US)

ABC News ^ | June 23

[Michael2001]

Members of Congress and Palestinian leaders on Sunday questioned President Bush's support for an interim Palestinian state and urged stepped-up U.S. peacemaking efforts as Bush waited for the right moment to announce his Mideast plan.

Bush and his advisers talked over the weekend about the details and timing of a long-awaiting speech outlining his ideas.

White House officials would not rule out an address as early as Monday. Some aides want to see the president deliver it before he leaves Tuesday for a three-day summit in Canada of the world's industrial powers.

The core of Bush's plan provisional statehood for the Palestinians is known. Issues such as precise borders, currency and whether such a state could join the United Nations would be resolved later.

Bush delayed an announcement last week after two suicide bombings in Jerusalem that killed 26 Israelis and the Israeli army began seizing Palestinian territory in the West Bank.

Ahead of an official announcement, the administration's proposal is being challenged by influential lawmakers and a Palestinian official.

Palestinian Cabinet Minister Nabil Shaath said his people would greet Bush's proposal for interim status "positively," but he was skeptical about its central provision.

"There is no such a thing as a provisional state," said on "Fox News Sunday."

Still, Shaath said he was eager for the United States to lay out a peace plan soon. "The important thing is to have the United States involved with the international community because we cannot do it on our own with the Israelis. We need a third party, and there's no better than the Americans," he said.

"I don't know what a provisional state means," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., on CBS's "Face the Nation." "Either you're a state or not a state."

What's needed is a permanent Palestinian state, Lieberman said, and the way to start is for Bush to send Secretary of State Colin Powell back to the region and have him bring the parties together around the plan offered by Saudi Arabia Arab peace with Israel in exchange for a Palestinian state on land Israel won in 1967.

"It's important that the president get back on the field here," he said. "The problem here is that this is going nowhere." Lieberman proposed substantial U.S. economic aid to Palestinians and said he would allow more into America as part of an effort to improve ties and separate young Palestinians from the culture of suicide bombing.

"That's a dicey proposition right now," said Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said on ABC's "This Week," of the interim state idea. "I don't know how you can create a Palestinian state at the moment with all of the violence that's going on, all of the terrorist attacks."

Israeli Defense Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer said on CBS that "the offer of President Bush will be welcomed if this will be under the feeling that all of the terror activities is somehow calmed, or at least someone (does) something in order to bring it lower than it is right now."

Several of those interviewed Sunday expressed growing skepticism about Yasser Arafat's ability to lead the Palestinians.

"I think he's at a point where he has lost control," Lieberman said.

"It's time for a change," Lieberman said. He should "ask himself what is in the best interests of the Palestinian people," Lieberman said, adding it was time for Arafat "to step aside."

"I personally believe that Arafat is a spent force," Shelby said.

Shaath said Arafat is the elected leader of the Palestinians, and said he will face elections again in January.

[Michael2001]

They're blowing up people left and right in Israel, and Joey wants to bring them here in order to improve ties?! How big of an idiot is this guy? The fact that this guy almost got elected VP is scary.

[Ethan_Allen]

Isa 3:4 And I will give children [to be] their princes, and babes shall rule over them.

Isa 3:12 [As for] my people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

God help us.

Other than that, I'm at a loss for words.

[OldFriend]

My G-D, Lieberman wants to bring those crazed killers here! Are there any words for this man's willingness to criticize the president?

[Eternal_Bear]

So we solve israel's problem by accepting Palestinians? This sh*t is getting too thick. We should have never gotten involved in that tribal war. We were doing quite well without it before certain people got us involved in that mess that we didnt cause but are supposed to solve with our money and blood. Ridiculous!

[Diogenesis]

New Haven for the New Palestinian land.

Yes. Senator Lieberman. Palestinians belong in Connecticut.

They are a peace-loving people who belong throughout the land between Hartford and New Haven.

[speekinout]

lieberman is a real bright bulb, isn't he? These Palestinians are the people who are willing to blow themselves up in order to kill as many Israelis and American Jews as possible and he wants to invite them here?
Is he also going to invite them to visit his synagogue with him?

[lavaroise]

Oh, gees, as if the onus is on us, as if we should be punished for the suicide culture, while we would have to keep funding the murderers of such culture, importing their fronts and jurissdictions in here.

No, clearly the worship of PAlestinians and ties with them is obsene. This is not mere balanced approach with other US jurisdictions, it is mandated worship on humanitarian worshiped pretexts. A responsibilization of their fate on our shoulders, an adoption of abusers who prosecute us.

What kind of mentality would require Lieberman to demand from us that those who hate us and burn our flags must be given power over/against us? Why should we accept what those who self-worship demand?

Lieberman is an evil tyrant demanding worship from us.

[lavaroise]

For those who thought Bush was just the same as Democrats...

[Michael2001]

Is he also going to invite them to visit his synagogue with him?

I remember hearing during election time that he was excommunicated from his Synagogue. Don't know if he's found a new one.

[Michael2001]

ping

[LarryLied]

My gosh. Lieberman was the point man on ANWR. When he threatened to filibuster drilling in Alaska, the show was over. And now this. Why does he hate America so much? This is social engineering at its worst. Something Stalin would do. Bring Palestinians to American neighborhoods so they will learn how to be good citizens. My God.

Good find Michael...depressing as hell but good.

[backhoe]

Good Lord, the man has lost his mind!

He wants more terrorists & terrorist recruits in the USA?

[Dec31,1999]

"It's time for a change," Lieberman said. He should "ask himself what is in the best interests of the Palestinian people," Lieberman said, adding it was time for Arafat "to step aside."

Perhaps Leiberman should ask himself what is in the best interests of the Americans, for once.

[willyone]

Voters. Future Dem. voters. This idiot would sell his mother out for political gain. Not just him. They all, with few exceptions give a dam about anything except staying in power and on the gravytrain. That includes Bush in case you are wondering.

[McGavin999]

Lieberman proposed substantial U.S. economic aid to Palestinians and said he would allow more into America as part of an effort to improve ties and separate young Palestinians from the culture of suicide bombing.

Good GOD! This man is insane! Someone needs to take out a full page ad in New Haven with this quote. Perhaps he'd be willing to put them up in his own state.

[monkeywrench]

Apparently the anti-Israel demonstrations here weren't as violent as he thinks they should be, nor the protesters as numerous. He seems to want to 'level the playing field', to borrow a clinton phrase.

[LarryLied]

*ping*

[Dec31,1999]

For those who thought Bush was just the same as Democrats...

LOL bump! Very good point!

[Miss Marple]

Lieberman=self-hating Jew.

I have never posted that epithet before, but I honestly cannot think of any other explanation.

[rdb3]

Why does Loserman want homicide-bombers creating havoc on our streets? Obliterate them where they are, or, get out of the IDF's way so they can do it.

[A. Pole]

Lieberman proposed substantial U.S. economic aid to Palestinians and said he would allow more into America as part of an effort to improve ties and separate young Palestinians from the culture of suicide bombing.

Yes, bringing Palestinians to USA could solve Israel's problem.

[VOA]

(LIEberman said:)
"It's important that the president get back on the field here," he said. "The problem here
is that this is going nowhere."

I simply pray that Dubya takes this as a negative indicator of what he should do.

When the Israelis and Palestinians want to make peace, they'll make peace.
Until then, the USA can't try to help them without getting clawed up by both sides.

[WaterDragon]

I don't want them here, any of them.

[LarryLied]

Why does Loserman want homicide-bombers creating havoc on our streets?

I dunno. Some say there is a Gramscian plot to create chaos and division in order to tear down traditional America and replace it with...er...something or other.

[liberalism=failure]

When LIEberman hung out with Bennett I thought he was one of the few good democrats. But when he ran with Gore I realized it was all a cynical ploy. Now that he's said this I think he's a dangerous nut.

[Michael2001]

Good GOD! This man is insane! Someone needs to take out a full page ad in New Haven with this quote.

Notice how this qoute isn't even considered a major part of the article? Apparently, you and I, and the rest of the freepers are the only people who consider this alarming. Of course that isn't true, but most Americans never get passed the headlines so this will never get out.

I'm going to send this to O'Reilly, hopefully he will put it on "the most ridiculous item of the day". Any freepers who would like to help me and e-mail him as well would be appreciated.

[Dubya]

Thanks for the ping.

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[mel]

Good point...Lieberman's statement beats about anything I have heard lately.

[Dubya]

[Phil V.]

Ain't bipartisanship neat!!!

Pray for gridlock

[Dubya]

[McGavin999]

I just sent one off to him. I hope others do the same.

[Dubya]

[LarryLied]

Lieberman is not being inclusive. Bringing the Palestinians here is a start but what about others?

The Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka invented the suicide bomb belt. They are responsible for more suicide bombings than all the groups in the mid east combined. Bombings are so regular in Colombo, if less than 30 people are killed, few pay any attention. Why doesn't Lieberman propose we bring a few thousand Tamil Tigers to America?

And what about Al Qaeda family members? Bin Laden has sons. Lieberman should see they are able to move to America too.

We have to break this cycle of violence. We have to move forward, give something back, reach out, reach up, reach down, reach all around, make a difference and be inclusive. Let us bring people from every terrorist group in the world to our shores.

[seeker41]

NO,NO and NO!

[hangin' chad]

So we solve israel's problem by accepting Palestinians? This sh*t is getting too thick.

Well, this fits right in with his buddy Sharon's plan to "transfer" the Palestinians out of the West Bank (or is that Judea and Samaria). They get what they want--the land and water. We get the refugees. Neat plan.

[Flyover Country]

You think that's incredible, how about he is a contender for the Presidency in '04.

[steamroller]

We could always compromise and bring the Palies halfway here-the middle of the Atlantic would be about right.

[bybybill]

Bet you won`t read about this in tomorrows NYT or Washington Post, and good old Joey will " Clarify" his statement real quick

[Michael2001]

If he runs, it'll be our duty to inform people as to what he intends to do.

[Michael2001]

Bet you won`t read about this in tomorrows NYT or Washington Post, and good old Joey will " Clarify" his statement real quick

If no one latches on, he won't even have to. I had to dig this gem out of the middle of the article. I've e-mailed this to a bunch of my friends, family, my Church e-mail list and the O'Reilly Factor. I urge other Freepers to do the same.

Am I naive in thinking that if this got out, the majority of Americans would hate this guy as much as we Freepers do?

[LarryLied]

During our Balkan war, Lieberman called the Albanian Muslims in Kosovo "freedom fighters".

When American forces entered an Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, they found an application from a Kosovo Albanian which read: "I have Kosovo Liberation Army combat experience against Serb forces. . .I recommend suicide operations against parks like Disney"

[floriduh voter]

NO WAY, JOE. I do not want bombers here, but I suspect they are already here. What a really stinky idea. Their favorite thing is blowing themselves up.

[bybybill]

I don`t know about hate, but you sure got to shake your head in wonderment. Can you imagine if VP Chaney said something this stupid?

If we did open the door and let more palestinians in, we would get their "best", the ones that want to get away from all that craziness. They will be the people, if it ever happens, that could build Palestine. Hadasa is going to have Joey sleeping on the couch for this one.

We need to really hit talk radio with this one

[floriduh voter]

Joe LIEberman wants to bring the Palestinians to America. Just thought you'd want to know. Who's paying him under the table?