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Rounding Up the Insane
Oregon Magazine ^ | June 23, 2002 | Larry Leonard

Posted on 06/23/2002 6:29:46 PM PDT by WaterDragon

Sunday, June 22,2002 -- Seven days, the state budget, the Sixties, Ken Kesey and the insane. People who do not live in Oregon don't know what they're missing. I almost missed it myself. Didn't catch this seminal program on its Friday, Oregon Public Broadcasting, appearance. Was trying to start my Fiat on Sunday afternoon when the show reran. But, knowing I'd get a column out of this one, the Spyder wisely refused to start...(snip)

The important item on this program was their discussion about the insane. This was a classic.

It was stimulated by the Supreme Court's recent decision to shut down execution of people of low intelligence. The panel's support of this decision was obviously based on a deep sense of personal relief....(snip)

For complete article click here.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Idaho; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: amnesia; asylums; pbs

1 posted on 06/23/2002 6:29:46 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
"They're coming to take me away, haha, hehe, hoho.."
2 posted on 06/23/2002 6:38:01 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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To: WaterDragon
...the Supreme Court's recent decision to shut down execution of people of low intelligence.
The panel's support of this decision was obviously based on a deep sense of personal relief.


Thanks to the US Supreme Court, I shall assiduously avoid any and all contact with
any person identified as being of "low intelligence".

I don't like the possibility that if I should be murdered by such a person,
my family will be compelled to contribute to the preservation of such a person's life.

Especially if they simply "play dumb" and can lower their IQ to the "murderer safe" zone.

I did like Justice Rehnquist's opeing of his dissent.
"I dissent."
(note the omission of the ususal "repectfully" that is the middle word in the three word
opening of most judicial dissents)

Some compassionate MORONS on the Supreme Court have basically told us that
people that can't solve differential equations can't possibly tell right from wrong.
And rational people will avoid contact with them.
3 posted on 06/23/2002 6:43:14 PM PDT by VOA
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To: blackie; Grampa Dave; LarryLied; TXBubba
bump!
4 posted on 06/23/2002 7:08:00 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
So now they want to send those who cannot care for themselves back to institutions which can. May be too late. Donna Shalala funded a group called "Consumer Survivors" . Former mental patients who think no one, no matter how ill, should be institutionalized. In 1998 and 2000, the group was engaged in getting the mentally ill involved in the political process. Voter drives for schizophrenics. In vans you and I paid for, the mentally ill were ferried to the polls to vote.

Wonder if Bush has cut off their funding. Hope so.

5 posted on 06/23/2002 7:53:36 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Thats funny, who got to head up the voter drive? It does explain somethings.

In the recent Rat primary for Gov. here in Goofyville, Or, one candidate said he deserved our vote cause he was a good bowler{he won,but admitted that he wasn`t a bowler after all}, another promised to raise taxes, and the woman in the race was praised in state`s largest paper because " she gave good meetings"

6 posted on 06/23/2002 8:13:17 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: LarryLied
The mentally incompetent and purchasable ex-cons [and perhaps cons] are the only citizens willing to vote Democrat these days. So, yes, I can see Ted Kennedy introducing bills [if he hasn't already] to provide transportation and voting-"guidance" to the severely mentally ill.


7 posted on 06/23/2002 8:15:38 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Low IQ=license to kill. The IQ less majority on the Supreme Court is as usual exempting their own ILK from the laws that rule everyone else. "Stupid is as stupid does!", or is it just a little more complicated than that?
8 posted on 06/23/2002 8:34:37 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: bybybill
Goofyville? That's the nickname for Salem, right?
9 posted on 06/23/2002 8:49:44 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Sally Satel MD talked about Shalala's mental patients taking other mentally ill persons to vote on C-Span's booknotes. Some of the interview and what political correctness is doing to medicine is here
10 posted on 06/23/2002 8:50:58 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
I believe it. Really, isn't this unconstitutional? I know here in Oregon there's been so much voter fraud since the Democrats took the governorship.
11 posted on 06/23/2002 9:06:18 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Goofyville, Or., aka Portland..politicly this place is a run by a bunch of cartoon characters
12 posted on 06/23/2002 9:12:08 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: LarryLied
Voter drives for schizophrenics...ironic isn't it? - one of the characteristics used to determione "mental illness" is lack of insight into one's circumstances and lack of judgment - yet it's become reasonable to turn people lacking in these regards loose in the voting booths - no wonder we get the kind of government we have......
13 posted on 06/23/2002 9:24:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: WaterDragon
"Rounding up the Insane"

Try rounding up the homeless.

Husband and I were in a Palm Beach McD's one morning when it started to rain.The homeless shuffled in and most were carrying on conversations with themselves. It was unbelievable.

We're both docs, not shrinks, but have seen people go from depressed, catatonic, and way out there to happy, normal, contibuting people with meds. These homeless were not there by normal choice.

I had one patient on my psych rotation told me he had to circle me 10 times. I said OK. After he was done he told me he had to go to the bathroom with me. Wellll that was certainly a no go but a few months later on meds this guy was totally functioning again.

JKK threw these people out into the streets.
Continually we see the left "helping" the oppressed by oppressing them further. No need to wonder why. Victims vote. Just sick.
14 posted on 06/23/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
The socialists generally are unhealthy for citizens, whatever their state of mind. Socialist governments either slaughter their own people, as the USSR, Cuba, Red China and North Korea did and do, or they disarm their citizens to make them easy prey for criminals.

But it really makes me angry that every group the socialists identify as victims and then set out to 'help', always, always end up worse off. The blacks, the homeless, the mentally ill, women....you name it.

I truly hate them for this.
15 posted on 06/23/2002 9:51:03 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
I was in Yugoslavia just after the death of Tito, aka "Communist light". They were not victims of society. They were victims of their government.

The biggest department store had one rack of dresses for all the women in Zagreb and those were right next to the toilet plungers.

The place was absolutely filthy.

My cousin was a bank president and his wife a teacher. Their apartment the size of my kitchen and family room.

I truly wish demorats would see what their voting for in action.

The founding fathers warned us. Their foresight was awesome.




16 posted on 06/23/2002 10:31:59 PM PDT by lizma
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To: VOA
Thank God I can solve differ... hower yu spel it equations at least I could with a book. I think. maybe. Oh heck if your neighbors don't like you you're doomed any way. Sane or not.
17 posted on 06/23/2002 11:01:50 PM PDT by hottomale
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To: WaterDragon
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

18 posted on 06/24/2002 9:05:42 AM PDT by blackie
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To: lizma
Too bad more Americans did have a chance to see what life was really like under communism. In 1966, I drove with my parents from Czechoslovakia through Hungary and Yugoslavia to Bulgaria. I've seem happier people living in grass huts in New Guinea.
19 posted on 06/24/2002 9:29:19 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied; lizma
It's obvious why our news organizations never ever show the reality of those countries that were under Communism. There should have been many programs showing the horrors. But even today, there's nothing about the horrors of North Korea, and there are only lies about Cuba
20 posted on 06/24/2002 1:41:08 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Not, perhaps, the best of timing locally - I'm talking Seattle here - for This Reason. A lunatic who had served one-half of his term for previously attacking a LEO managed to shoot another one in the head with the guy's own service pistol. The libs who were bleating about the poor insane are suddenly very, very quiet hereabouts. "Treat and release" seems just a little less attractive...for now...
21 posted on 06/24/2002 2:02:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill; All
The mentally ill do deserve treatment, which they don't get regularly living on the street. Most need the protected environment of an institution.


22 posted on 06/24/2002 2:07:25 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Billthedrill; michigander; lizma; VOA; Illbay; hangin' chad; Aim small miss small
bttt FYI
23 posted on 06/24/2002 2:10:08 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
It happened right after Oregon's Revolutionary Literary icon, Ken "kaleidoscope" Kesey, sold One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to Hollywood and Jack Nicholson turned Randle P. McMurphy into a spokesman for what was wrong with America.

Y'know, I always wondered about that. Whatever they were doing to Jack Nicholson didn't work. Several years later when he did The Shining he was as nutty as ever!

24 posted on 06/24/2002 2:36:33 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
LOL, Illbay!
25 posted on 06/24/2002 2:50:42 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Tailback; backhoe; Centurion2000; WakeUpChristian; Imal; goodieD; xrp; wildbill; scannell
bttt....
26 posted on 06/24/2002 8:07:19 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: bybybill
Funny you should mention oddball candidates, but in our governor's primary race we had one gentleman who had devoted his life to making ferrets legal again in the state of California. That was pretty much all he talked about in his statement.
27 posted on 06/24/2002 9:48:14 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: WaterDragon
so if some leftist democrat drives me crazy, and I accidentally kill em, I will get state sponsored room and board for life? hmmmmm.....
28 posted on 06/24/2002 9:50:55 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: goodieD
There's a thought!
29 posted on 06/24/2002 10:15:05 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
More likely there will be endless 'friends and neighbors' testifying to the how dumb the murderer on trial is. "He was such a nice boy, but thicker than a plank." Can't you just hear it?
30 posted on 06/28/2002 8:45:33 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon; bybybill
"Goofyville? That's the nickname for Salem, right?"

"Goofyville, Or., aka Portland..politicly this place is a run by a bunch of cartoon characters."

I was going to say that Goofyville could be any decent sized city on the Willamette River. However, bybybill, I should have known you were speaking of Portland, aka Moscow on the Willamette. Those cartoon characters are the reason I live outside the urban growth boundary in Washington County.

31 posted on 06/28/2002 9:19:26 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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