A close look (2nd is a blowup of the first)
at a small portion of the Saudi flight Atrocities from 911.
Posted on 06/24/2002 6:11:02 AM PDT by kattracks
MANAMA, June 24 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia launched on Monday a $20 million project to build its own flight training centre after Western countries tightened rules on training foreign pilots following the September 11 attack.
"It will be one of the most modern pilot training centres in the world," said Mohammed Abdullah al-Angari, general manager of the Projects and Trading Company, a private firm contracted by Saudi Arabian Airlines (Saudia) to build the centre.
Angari told Reuters by telephone from Jeddah the project was expected to be completed within 18 months.
Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who commandeered three aircraft into landmarks in Washington and New York were Saudis.
Saudia officials said the centre will consist of two sections; one for training pilots and the other for aviation safety specialists.
The loss-making Saudia, which flies to 80 destinations, has a fleet of 137 aircraft, including 61 new planes bought at a cost of around $7.5 billion.
Saudi Arabia plans to privatise Saudia as part of economic reforms, and to help reduce its mounting domestic debts, which currently stands at $170 billion.
© Reuters Limited
Excellent prediction. There was an Egyptian co-pilot that took down a plane once.
A close look (2nd is a blowup of the first)
at a small portion of the Saudi flight Atrocities from 911.
On a more serious note, from what I remember in discussion from earlier, I think the hi tech flight simulators used in airliner training aren't all that easy to come by, I hope that given the state of the world that the US government declares these simulators military equipment and bans their export.
Future target.
yeah, its a packard bell celeron 400 with microsoft flight simulator 2000 on it...
Didn't we already have one of those? The Egyptian pilot who flew Egyptair 990 into the ocean three years ago.
they fly like they drive???
can't wait to see their navy...
From airdisaster.com:
Saudi Arabian Airlines Flight 163
Review of the CVR showed a serious breakdown in crew co-ordination almost from the first sign of trouble. The Captain failed to delegate responsibility to the other crew members, deciding to fly the aircraft and try to assess and remedy the problem as well. The First Officer had very limited experience on the L1011 and did not try to assist the Captain in flying the aircraft or monitoring communications or systems. The Second Officer, who was thought to be dyslexic, spent nearly all of his time searching through the aircraft's operations manual, the whole time repeating to himself "No Problem."
In addition, the Captain did not warn the cabin crew to prepare for evacuation nor did he even indicate that an evacuation was going to take place. Instead, he told the flight crew not to evacuate after landing. After the aircraft was stopped, one final transmission was received, indicating that an evacuation was about to take place. The evacuation never began however. The fire had moved rapidly forward and all of the victims were found in the forward half of the aircraft though none of the doors had been opened.
It is not known why the crew was not able to better coordinate their efforts to handle the emergency more efficiently and prepare the crew for an immediate evacuation. It seems unbelievable that the aircraft could land safely with all alive on board and yet not one person was able to escape. Following the accident, Lockheed removed the insulation from above the rear cargo area and reinforced it with high strength glass laminate. In addition, Saudia revised their emergency procedures and evacuation training and also sealed off all of the C-3 baggage areas.
"Saudi Arabian Airlines Catering has gained a sterling reputation in the Aviation Catering Industry as a premier caterer renowned for high food quality and exacting standards in food hygiene. Catering staff are rigorously trained in all essential skills from hygiene to merchandising to good culinary practices."The remarkable track record in hygiene was accomplished through result-oriented food hygiene and safety programs that include: Raw Material Control, Personal Hygiene, Temperature Control, Cleaning and Disinfection Control, Bacteriological Control and HACCP Principle.
"Saudi Arabian Airlines Catering Hygiene and Food Safety Departments consider it vital to not only offer the right hygiene training but also the expert help and objective advice that is needed to ensure maximum food safety and health of the passengers."
Chilling transcript. I assume the jackass was the dyslexic second officer.
I too think the Debt of Honor scenario is the most likely way for Al Qaeda to procure a transport category aircraft in the near future.
Perhaps the best thing to do is to offer a bounty. I am prepared to make a small ($50) donation to FR during the next fundraiser in the name of the first freeper who can clearly and convincingly identify at least three of the four "dishes" pictured in post #21.
If anyone can identify all four, that's great, but please be prepared to provide supporting documentation for your entry. The best supporting evidence I can think of would include pictures of the dish in an alternate context, such that the dish is clearly identified. Recipes that include pictures are even better, but failing that, a recipe or a description of the dish that leaves as little doubt as possible that the item described is actually the item pictured will have to do, I suppose.
Please note, however, that any such supporting evidence must be from an independent third party, and not some recipe for fried camel that you just made up. In the interests of fairness, should no freeper be able to successfully identify three of the dishes, I will commit to donating the bounty to FR in the name of whichever freeper comes closest to identifying as many as possible, in my sole and final judgement.
Shouldn't these things need an export license to go to Saudi Arabia? Right now, according to http://www.bis.doc.gov, THEY DON'T!!
What homeland security, when we're helping them build a school for terrorists?
Best way out of this mess is find an alternative source for oil or energy, and cut off all contact with the Arabs. That means no immigration, no tourism, no visas, no commerical airliners. They'll just rot on the vine.
Since you're so into this, I'll see if I can get you an analysis. Failing that, want me to just mail it to you?
From the top down:
A breadstick.
A hunk of goat meat.
Curried rice.
The thing on the bottom looks like bacon which is a no-no in Islam, unless it's goat bacon?
From the top down:
A breadstick.
Gawd, shoot the baker.
A hunk of goat meat.
Why does it look like it has raisins?
Curried rice.
I thought it looked more noodle-like, actually.
The thing on the bottom looks like bacon which is a no-no in Islam, unless it's goat bacon?
"Goat bacon"? Now you're really reaching. But, that's four proposals, so since you're first in line, you're in the lead for the time being. ;)
I'll have to ping some people to get some help here, and maybe set a deadline...
. I'd rather have them stay home and out of U. S. air space.
1) Repellent light-brown object on skewer.
2) RIP Fatima the Goat.
3) Yellow rice on a spoon. Looks edible: surely here by mistake.
4) Repellent dark-brown object on skewer.
1&4: Tripe, boiled and fried.
3 is rice with saffron, and No. 2:
prime Mare's Blood Cheese!
Israeli air traffic doesn't get hi-jacked, so they could remain with their present operational routing.
Surely literally true, but I was hoping for something a bit more specific ;)
2) RIP Fatima the Goat.
A popular answer thus far.
3) Yellow rice on a spoon. Looks edible: surely here by mistake.
This is good. I still think it looks more noodle-like, but yellow rice looks plausible...
That's horrible. I sincerely hope you're wrong, but I'll give credit where it's due if you're not.
I like #3 - that looks like a winner for now. As for the rest, I'll have to reserve judgement for the moment - I'm not a big mare's blood cheese fan, nor a fan of tripe, so my experience is sadly limited. Is there some place I can look at pictures or recipes for these gourmet preparations, for comparative purposes?
1) Snake on a stick.
2) Goat-organ chop.
3) Saffron maggots (from dead camel roadkill).
3) Rat on a stick (the Official National dish).
Come'on now, gimme a taste!
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