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Bush Middle East Speech Discussion Thread

Posted on 06/24/2002 12:48:28 PM PDT by RCW2001

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To: AnnaZ
I meant it from the bottom of my heart! You make it so understandable and kind.
1,401 posted on 06/24/2002 11:27:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Look, if all of the "disaffected" former Bush supporters on this site were what they say they are then Bush would have won the popular vote with 60%. I have noticed about 3 posters that hate Bush that are honest enough to admit they never voted for him in the first place. Yes there are a few around here that were very active in the primaries however, when their man did NOT win, they just lost all interest and decided to turn their energy to blasting the guy that did win and yelling "I told ya so".

1,402 posted on 06/24/2002 11:27:33 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: A Citizen Reporter; kristinn
How did you know that his email was from Brigadiars? I'm curious......Did he know? Were there names?

That's a good question. I'd also like to know why Rush did the parody of the "average FReeper" - it certainly was not very flattering.

1,403 posted on 06/24/2002 11:28:09 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
As I recall, Levin had quadruple or maybe even 5 vessel by pass surgery, last year and Rush also had his surgery. Both seem to have undergone radical personality changes. Maybe it's related,maybe not,but there have been some studies that have shown, that post op cardiac patients have personality changes-whether it's from anoxia during the procedure or some other insult, the researchers are not sure. Rush's surgery was done,through the skull,behind his ear.Maybe these two have bonded because of their medical problems .But something is definitely up with these two.
1,404 posted on 06/24/2002 11:29:50 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Howlin
Oh, my, I just realized this thread got a little, uh, feisty in my absence. Wow. My post to you seems like really old news, and woefully out of sync... ;^)

1,405 posted on 06/24/2002 11:29:50 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: AnnaZ
Yes, it did. It's a good thing you showed up. We may need some prayers.......LOL.
1,406 posted on 06/24/2002 11:31:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Quix
I've faced death enough times it would be welcome at this point

I certainly hope you stick around since you soul is gentle and your life has tremendous worth.

1,407 posted on 06/24/2002 11:31:14 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
post op cardiac patients have personality changes

Oddly enough, you are the 2nd person tonight to have mentioned that possibility to me. And I've heard that before about bypass patients.

1,408 posted on 06/24/2002 11:33:46 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Quix
We're dealing with powerful forces. Bush is more open about it than Clinton, but anyway you look at it the medicine strong enough to keep the world safe for freedom loving people is also strong enough to enslave us all. We really do depend on honest, competent leaders with a true understanding of what's essential.

We have gone past the point, as a country, where we can ensure our collective freedom by keeping the federal government too weak to put it at risk.

And the world is going past the point that it can ensure its collective freedom by remaining isolationist.

We must elect good leaders; we must understand ourselves what is important so that we will know good leaders when we see them; we must teach our children thus; and we must not fail.

No - I did not get your uneasy feeling. If Bush walked by my room right now, you'd see an old man snap to salute like he hasn't in decades, a tear of joy on his cheek.

1,409 posted on 06/24/2002 11:35:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: holdonnow; Jim Robinson
Hey Mark. For those of us playing along at home, it was very fun. God bless YOU especially.

I think you put into words what many silent lurkers want to say, but are afraid to, for fear of being abused by whichever attack-pack shows up first, or of being singled out for banishment.

I hope Rush catches this thread. Maybe he'll have a new perspective on what it means to "go freeper".

1,410 posted on 06/24/2002 11:36:04 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: ThePythonicCow
No - I did not get your uneasy feeling. If Bush walked by my room right now, you'd see an old man snap to salute like he hasn't in decades, a tear of joy on his cheek.

Whew, how can anyone top that. God bless.

1,411 posted on 06/24/2002 11:37:35 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Howlin
Here's one: See?

It's not much, but I don't have the time these days to post on many threads these days outside of D.C. Chapter activities. I'm not on the Keyes threads much, either.

Also, if I do offer a criticism of President Bush's policies, I don't feel required to preface it with, "I support him overall, but..."

1,412 posted on 06/24/2002 11:38:05 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Howlin
FWIW, Bush is a diplomat, and I'm not. I could never be as polite as he is in the situations he's been thrust into. I would've nuked Tora Bora on September 12th. (I'm not proud of that sentiment or that visceral reaction, just honest.)
 
Personally, when Dubya gave them the Deuteronomy tonight I thought it was one of the more pointed things he's ever said to them. To me it was like "Shape up, ya loonies, or say 'hello' to the big portobello!"
 
Yes, I dabble occasionally in the belly of Bushbotdom. ('Cept I usually get called a Twinkie when I do.)

1,413 posted on 06/24/2002 11:39:48 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I don't "claim" anything about Cheney's house. I DID IT. And I did it very successfully.

That comment like your's is typical of the bullying tactics employed here. A sideways comment meant to impugn someone's motives without confronting them directly. That is cowardly and childish.

1,414 posted on 06/24/2002 11:45:44 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Texasforever
I guarantee you that there is nothing you can say about Rush Limbaugh that we all haven't heard or read about at least a million times. So, if you are incapable of coming up with some interesting or original material, put a sock in it!
1,415 posted on 06/24/2002 11:46:07 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant
guarantee you that there is nothing you can say about Rush Limbaugh that we all haven't heard or read about at least a million times. So, if you are incapable of coming up with some interesting or original material, put a sock in it!

. Wow a RushBOT. I really twisted your knickers last night didn't I?

1,416 posted on 06/24/2002 11:48:34 PM PDT by Texasforever
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These threads are interesting, in a weird sort of way, like when you go site seeing after a tornado or drive really slow past a car wreck.
1,417 posted on 06/24/2002 11:50:04 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: kristinn
OH bully, again! LOL. You made a claim, and I asked a question, which I will ask again.

"How did you know that his email was from Brigadiars? I'm curious......Did he know? Were there names?"

Any answers?

1,418 posted on 06/24/2002 11:50:33 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Amelia; A Citizen Reporter
That's what I remember from that time. I'm sure the threads about it are in the FR archives somewhere.
1,419 posted on 06/24/2002 11:51:15 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Wild Irish Rogue wrote: As I recall, Levin had quadruple or maybe even 5 vessel by pass surgery, last year and Rush also had his surgery. Both seem to have undergone radical personality changes. Maybe it's related,maybe not,but there have been some studies that have shown, that post op cardiac patients have personality changes-whether it's from anoxia during the procedure or some other insult, the researchers are not sure. Rush's surgery was done,through the skull,behind his ear.Maybe these two have bonded because of their medical problems .But something is definitely up with these two.

It may just be coincidence that Rush went on his anti-Bush tear during the pre-summer ratings period, but I doubt it.

People generally don't tamper with a winning formula, but Rush did an about-face on several fronts simultaneously:

1. He started to become hyper-critical of Bush.

2. He made a point of dissociating himself from the Republican Party.

3. He started to be nasty to some callers who disagree with him.

I'm thinking that the EIB people maybe were starting to see some ratings numbers that made them nervous so they decided to give to the program some edge.

1,420 posted on 06/24/2002 11:52:24 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: Texasforever
WTF is a Rushbot, jerk?
1,421 posted on 06/24/2002 11:52:31 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: AnnaZ
I would've nuked Tora Bora on September 12th

And I would have cheered you on! I am an Aries. Our motto is "Ready, fire, aim!"

1,422 posted on 06/24/2002 11:54:04 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: unsycophant
WTF is a Rushbot, jerk?

Mind-numbed-robot?

1,423 posted on 06/24/2002 11:56:21 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: kristinn
It's good to hear there are some Bush administration policies being implemented somewhere that will upset the liberals.

Man, came right out with it, didn't you? Whew........must have taken everything you had. :-)

If you wouldn't scream that I was bullying you, I would say that was a backhanded compliment, like "Do you still beat your wife."

1,424 posted on 06/24/2002 11:56:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ThePythonicCow
Oh, man. You felt me speechless. Fabulous.
1,425 posted on 06/24/2002 11:58:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Deb; Scholastic
"You one issue cry-babies are exhausting. At least stay on the abortion threads where you belong...oh, that's right, there haven't been many since January 2001 which must be why you'rer draggin' that tired crap over here."

You find the murdering of millions of innocent children to be "tired crap"?

1,426 posted on 06/24/2002 11:59:07 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
You find the murdering of millions of innocent children to be "tired crap"?

Friendly advice. Don't mess with Deb.

1,427 posted on 06/25/2002 12:01:47 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: quidnunc
I am way, way past my bedtime,but I had to go and read some of holdonnows threads-they are so full of bitterness and anger-just like Rush.They use the exact same phraseology. I was just praising Mark on a thread yesterday-I had no idea he had descended into the mire of puerile name calling and Bush bashing, along with Rush. How very sad for the both of them. Move over Pat, two more are coming.
1,428 posted on 06/25/2002 12:02:50 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: unsycophant
Holdonnow is a FReeper whose opinions are greatly appreciated on this forum and elsewhere. Looks like he took a few people to task tonight. Not bad. I've seen him do it on TV many times (and a whole lot more serious than he did here). He's great at it! God bless him, wish there were more like him.

1,429 posted on 06/25/2002 12:03:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Texasforever
ROFLMAO...........really, really ROFLMAO.
1,430 posted on 06/25/2002 12:03:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Texasforever
Damn. I was hoping you'd found a sock, and shoved it in hard.

Your constant carrying on about Rush Limbaugh is overblown and overdone. If you don't like what he says you might consider one of the following options:

Turn the dial

Wear earplugs

Take a break

Get some rest

Get a job

Grow up

Shut up

Get a little

Get a life

Buy a clue

If you can't afford to buy a clue, I'll pay for one, for you.

1,431 posted on 06/25/2002 12:03:55 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Texasforever
I was asking a legitimate question of her post.
1,432 posted on 06/25/2002 12:06:26 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: unsycophant
What's sauce for the TexasForever is sauce for the unsycophant.

If you don't like what's on the Rush-bashing threads go somewhere else more congenial to you.

1,433 posted on 06/25/2002 12:07:26 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: kristinn
"He met us after the incident where his e-mailbox was spammed by the Brigadiers from FR.

"That's what I remember from that time. I'm sure the threads about it are in the FR archives somewhere.

Kris, I'm sure you can do better than that. You made a claim about Rush's e-mailbox being spammed, what does that have to do with the FR archives? Please.....

1,434 posted on 06/25/2002 12:07:30 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter; Amelia
My mistake. The Brigadiers thing was earlier than that. This was over Fistgate and Rush's not mentioning it on his show.

Link to one of the "Average FReeper threads.

1,435 posted on 06/25/2002 12:08:04 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: ThePythonicCow
I could easily have written every sentence you wrote. Concur. Even the salute.

There's just the underlying drumbeat, undercurrent of the demonic other thing building in the tyrannical globalism. And I don't always expect it when some thread of that seems to appear or be felt.

Thanks for your kind reply.
1,436 posted on 06/25/2002 12:08:30 AM PDT by Quix
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for remembering what a pal Levin is, and has been to conservatism, and to Free Republic. I knew you would. I agree with you, of course!

By the way: I reposted some of your quotes from a thread you ran about "Rush bashing" last year, and...I forgot to attribute them to you. Grrr.

My most humble apologies to you, Jim "Rushbot" Robinson.

1,437 posted on 06/25/2002 12:09:26 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Texasforever
WELLLLLLL, INTERESTINGLY, this past week I've had some more trustworthy input insist that earlier predictions of my martyrdom were inaccurate and that God had other plans. That would be nice. I've suffered enough the last 3 years of fiery furnaces I think I'd be just as glad to leave the martyrdom to someone else. If God takes me straight out of this life into the next one without physical death, Great.

On the other hand, His Will be done in terms of whatever's best for The KINGDOM AS LONG AS MY SALVATION IS NOT THE LEAST BIT THREATENED! I'd hate to weaken in a torture situation and even think of denying my Lord. I realize His Grace is sufficient.

THANKS TONS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. Please pray that my ongoing relationships with a list of students and others after I leave will bear much fruit. And that the gift packages and handmade pottery I'm working to get together for them will all come toegether. First I have to get this last set of finals graded and then pack before movers on the 3rd! Wheee. Guess I'd better quit playing hooky on FR!!!
1,438 posted on 06/25/2002 12:12:38 AM PDT by Quix
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To: unsycophant
Thanks. You gotta dance with the one who brung you. Can you believe that? Me? A Bush bot? Who wooda ever thunk it?

1,439 posted on 06/25/2002 12:13:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: unsycophant
I have probably mentione Rushbo a total of 10 times on this forum.
1,440 posted on 06/25/2002 12:14:43 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
Holdonnow is a FReeper whose opinions are greatly appreciated on this forum and elsewhere. Looks like he took a few people to task tonight. Not bad

Did you read the thread? I think "taking to task" is an under statement.

1,441 posted on 06/25/2002 12:17:42 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
It happens.
1,442 posted on 06/25/2002 12:21:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Howlin
If you wouldn't scream that I was bullying you, I would say that was a backhanded compliment, like "Do you still beat your wife."

I thought he stopped beating her.

Just kidding. Goodnight and God bless.

1,443 posted on 06/25/2002 12:21:31 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: Jim Robinson
So it does. And he pulled out all the stops.

1,444 posted on 06/25/2002 12:23:40 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
>>>Looks like he took a few people to task tonight. Not bad.

Just finished reading "holdonnow"`s posts. Either you didn't read the threads Jim, or perhaps you invited him to come over and stir up some trouble for certain Bush supporters. There's no way you can call Mark Levin's --- if that's who it was --- behavior proper conduct for a FReeper. NO way. Are you sure this is the real Jim Robinson?

1,445 posted on 06/25/2002 12:24:36 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Are you sure this is the real Jim Robinson?

Scared?

1,446 posted on 06/25/2002 12:32:05 AM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Reagan Man
Are you sure this is the real Jim Robinson?

Scared?

1,447 posted on 06/25/2002 12:33:07 AM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Reagan Man
Heh, heh. Yup, it's me all right.

Well, his style is probably not something I would want all FReepers to emulate, but then we're not all Mark Levins either. He's used to taking liberals apart on TV and he takes absolutely no guff from any of them. So, guess he delivered a little friendly fire here tonight and we took a few casualties. I hope all who took incoming rounds can handle it. It's not every day that you get to go to fisticuffs with the likes of a great conservative mind like Mark's.


1,448 posted on 06/25/2002 12:33:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: nunya bidness
>>>Scared?

Not in the last forty something years, since I was a kid.

You?

1,449 posted on 06/25/2002 12:35:52 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Jim Robinson
>>>I hope all who took incoming rounds can handle it.

I didn't have the opportunity to engage "The Great One" tonight, but from the looks of things, he gave quite a few low blows. Taking liberals apart on TV is one thing. Tonight on FR, I thought he stepped over the line. Oh well. May be he'll come around and join us more often.

1,450 posted on 06/25/2002 12:44:17 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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