9TH CIRCUIT COURT: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

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[Recovering_Democrat]

UNBELIEVABLE. BREAKING ON FOX: SF APPEALS COURT SAYS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ENDORSES RELIGION, AND IS THEREBY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

[KC_Conspirator]

The ninth circuit court is always way out of line.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Linda Vester: the court says this pledge is NOW forbidden in schools, because, according to the court, the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

[Recovering_Democrat]

yes, you're right about that.

[WellsFargo94]

whatever happened to freedom of worship? I suppose you have such freedoms as long as you are not Christian.

[Tai_Chung]

I guess new immigrants to the United States will no longer have to pledge allegiance to their new country.

[craig_eddy]

Well, thank GOD I send my kids to a Christian school that DOES believe in the Pledge of Allegiance

[newsperson999]

PATHETIC AND INSANE!!
Pledge of Allegiance Poster 1/2 way down page click

[mlo]

The pledge can't be unconstitutional, it's just a set of words. A particular use of it can be. Do you mean that requiring the pledge in school is unconstitutional? Please be more specific.

[Sabertooth]

(((ping))))

[wimpycat]

This can go to the Supreme Court, can't it?

[Brandonmark]

One more example of "California Dreaming"...this appelate court can kiss my unconstitutional a**!

[justlurking]

This is typical for the 9th Circuit.

They have the dubious distinction of being overturned more often on appeal (by the Supreme Court) than any other circuit.

[Triple]

The pledge is socialist bs anyway. Hopefully this will be the end of it.

For those who are shocked about the socialist origins, look it up for yourself. Use google - it will take you ten minutes, tops.

[The Vast Right Wing]

Vast Right Wing Declares 9th Circuit Unconstitutional.

[BCR #226]

All I can do is shake my head in sadness. They are determined to undermine our nation one step at a time. Can we file charges of Treason against them?

Mike

[knak]

Unreal!

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I just said the pledge on Monday. I will say it every day, thanks to the court's decision.

[StockAyatollah]

San Franciso court. I bet they say a pledge every day to the rainbow flag. This one will be overturned in the SCOTUS 5-4.

[Always Right]

Does this make Federal Reserve Notes unconstitutional?

[cracker]

Technically, wouldn't the court only have to strike down the 1956 addition of "under God" as unconstitutional, and not the whole Pledge?

Sounds like overreaching to me.

[rwt60]

O.K., then let's not send them any more coins or currency with the words In God We Trust written thereon.

[newsperson999]

Our money is also constitutional "In God We Trust"

[Utopia]

The Federal Appeals court has ruled that the Pledge of Allegiance CANNOT be receited in schools because it endorses religion.

I guess we can't pay the judge either, because we'd hate for him to be a recipient of any form of money that endorses religion.

[Dimensio]

I can't get to the foxnews.com website right now...anyone have another link to this story elsewhere? I would like to read the specific wording of the ruling in question...

[FreedomFarmer]

The ninth circuit court is always way out of line.

I can mail the good folks out that way some rope.

They'll have to find their own trees.

Hate to see anyone out of line.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Un f' believable ...

11:29 PDT (AP) -- The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a 1954 act of Congress inserting the phrase "under God" after the words "one nation" in the pledge. The court said the phrase violates the so-called Establishment Clause in the Constitution that requires a separation of church and state. "A profession that we are a nation `under God' is identical, for Establishment Clause purposes, to a profession that we are a nation `under Jesus,' a nation `under Vishnu,' a nation `under Zeus,' or a nation `under no god,' because none of these professions can be neutral with respect to religion," Judge Alfred T. Goodwin wrote for the three-judge panel.

[Risky Schemer]

Actually they are simply following the school prayer ban logic and justification. If one is banned, it follows the other should be too.

Of course, eventually, a convoluted but successful argument will be presented that will absolve the Pledge of Allegiance, while not absolving school prayer, and this left coast decision will be overturned.

[cracker]

Does this make Federal Reserve Notes unconstitutional?

Yes. They are now illegal and worthless. Please send yours to me and I will dispose of them for you.

[SheLion]

What is this world coming to!

I grew up with that Pledge. Boy of boy. This is a sad day.

[phasma proeliator]

What a wonderful F'n world we live in.

will the public sit and allow this to happen? Likely YES - because we have turned in to a country where political correctness rules over dignity, freedom, and respect.

this is bullshit.

[Smedley]

Ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaggggghhhh

The 9th Circuit is a joke. The Pledge of Allegence is unconstitutional, but Naked Lesbians writhing in a glass shower in a bar is!

[TLBSHOW]

Can we go to court and say the democrats are a really a communist group that must be outlawed in the U.S.?

[Recovering_Democrat]

Case:
NEDOW v. U.S. CONGRESS
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/opinions+by+date?OpenView&Start=1&Count=100&Expand=1.1#1.1

[JulieRNR21]

[B Knotts]

Well, the 9th circuit is preserving their tradition of idiocy.

[ICE-FLYER]

It is not just time for open revolt against these terrorists to our nation but removal and jail for their reprehensible actions as officers of the court of our countrys 9th circuit.

Remove them, jail them.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I think that Linda Vester might have a coronary over this announcement.

I find it sickening.

[WindMinstrel]

Holy batshit! They've gone nuts!

[Constitution Day]

[Oldeconomybuyer]

11:32 PDT (AP) -- The court, in the nation's first ruling of its kind, said that when President Eisenhower signed the 1954 legislation, he wrote that "millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."

The court noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has said students cannot hold religious invocations at graduations and cannot be compelled to recite the pledge. But the appeals panel said that classroom pledges, regardless of whether a student participates, are unconstitutional and an "unacceptable choice between participating and protesting."

"Although students cannot be forced to participate in recitation of the pledge, the school district is nonetheless conveying a message of state endorsement of a religious belief when it requires public school teachers to recite, and lead the recitation of, the current form of the pledge," the court said.

[Hacksaw]

whatever happened to freedom of worship? I suppose you have such freedoms as long as you are not Christian.

Freedom of religion in the US today means that you are free to practice religion as long as noone else notices.

[Charles_Bingley]

only in that federal court district.

[CecilRhodesGhost]

The "one nation UNDER GOD" portion was added later to the pledge. I can't see the need for outrage here. This is simply courts affirming the separation of church and state.

[GeneD]

The opinion (a .pdf file; Adobe Acrobat required)

[SheLion]

....will the public sit and allow this to happen? Likely YES - because we have turned in to a country where political correctness rules over dignity, freedom, and respect.

Someone said that "THEY" have put a Tu Tu on Uncle Sam.

:(

[Howlin]

The 9th has the WORST record of being overturned.

[Dog]

This is a stunning ruling.....

[cracker]

Freedom of religion in the US today means that you are free to practice religion as long as noone else notices.

Don't ask, don't tell. It's not really discrimination...

[mlo]

11:29 PDT (AP) -- The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a 1954 act of Congress inserting the phrase "under God" after the words "one nation" in the pledge. The court said the phrase violates the so-called Establishment Clause in the Constitution that requires a separation of church and state. "A profession that we are a nation `under God' is identical, for Establishment Clause purposes, to a profession that we are a nation `under Jesus,' a nation `under Vishnu,' a nation `under Zeus,' or a nation `under no god,' because none of these professions can be neutral with respect to religion," Judge Alfred T. Goodwin wrote for the three-judge panel.

So, the pledge was not declared unconstitutional (whatever that would mean), they simply struck the words "under god".

What about the above reasoning do you find unbelievable?