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Supreme Court gives go-ahead for school vouchers!
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 06/27/2002 7:32:14 AM PDT by RCW2001

(06-27) 07:30 PDT (AP) -- ^Supreme Court gives go-ahead for school vouchers, lowers wall between church and state=

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Constitution allows public money to underwrite tuition at religious schools as long as parents have a choice among a range of religious and secular schools, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

The 5-4 ruling led by the court's conservative majority lowers the figurative wall separating church and state and clears a constitutional cloud from school vouchers, a divisive education idea dear to political conservatives and championed by President Bush.

Opponents call vouchers a fraud meant to siphon tax money from struggling public schools.


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1 posted on 06/27/2002 7:32:14 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
The 5-4 ruling led by the court's conservative majority
2 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:36 AM PDT by jern
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To: RCW2001
YES!!!!!
3 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: RCW2001

Good...our conservative majority hung on.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:44 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: RCW2001
Taking Back America one step at a time! A real win for our side!
5 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:48 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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The court endorsed a 6-year-old pilot program in inner-city Cleveland that provides parents a tax-supported education stipend. Parents may use the money to opt out of one of the worst-rated public schools in the nation.

The court majority said the program does not put the government in the unconstitutional position of sponsoring religious indoctrination, even though more than 95 percent of the vouchers are used to subsidize Catholic or other religious schooling.

Bush has been a staunch advocate of school vouchers, and emphasized the issue in his campaign for the White House.

Congress last year shelved that effort. But Bush resurrected the idea, proposing in his 2003 budget to give families up to $2,500 per child in tax credits if they choose a private school rather than a failing neighborhood public school.

Following the court's hearing on arguments in February, Education Secretary Rod Paige said he would continue advocating on behalf of both improved public schools and school choice.

Republican lawmakers in Congress agreed with Bush's stance.

In another schools case Thursday, the court approved random drug tests for many public high school students, saying anti-drug concerns outweigh an individual's right to privacy. That vote also was 5-4.

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6 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:48 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
I just heard a death-groan from the NEA.
7 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:54 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: RCW2001
:> Great news and right in time for the Pledge Decison!
8 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:57 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: mrs9x
Huge... the civil rights decision of our generation.
9 posted on 06/27/2002 7:34:46 AM PDT by mwl1
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Key to the court's reasoning in the voucher case was that children in the Cleveland program have a theoretical choice of attending religious schools, secular private academies, suburban public schools, or charter schools run by parents or others outside the education establishment.

The fact that only a handful of secular schools and no suburban public schools have signed up to accept voucher students is not the fault of the program itself, Ohio authorities say.

The court majority agreed.

"We believe that the program challenged here is a program of true private choice," Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote for himself and Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy and Clarence Thomas.

10 posted on 06/27/2002 7:34:54 AM PDT by RCW2001
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WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!
11 posted on 06/27/2002 7:34:56 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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Wow. That's not a biased report, is it? (/sarcasm)
12 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:07 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: RCW2001
WOO HOO!
13 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:11 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: RCW2001
Good decision. If there is a demand for secular private schools, then someone will start them.
14 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:25 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: RCW2001
NEA, eat hot death.
16 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: RCW2001
Hooray!
17 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:43 AM PDT by bvw
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This is GREAT!! We just turned the corner on education, now let's bust into their backfield!
18 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:04 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: ladtx
It is sick, isn't it. I hate the media.
19 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:26 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: RCW2001
YES!!!!!!!
20 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:28 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: AppyPappy
YES!!!!!

Yes is right. Good news warms the heart, and God knows we need some heart warming around here.

Every time state control is taken away or government shrinks, it's like having a big rock removed from our asses. Great news.......most excellent great news.

21 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:38 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: RCW2001
I wonder how much yesterday's ruling on the Pledge affected today's ruling on vouchers....
22 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: KantianBurke
Thank GOD
Let the Supreme Court Know what you really think Click
23 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:53 AM PDT by newsperson999
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To: Temple Owl
Ping
24 posted on 06/27/2002 7:37:21 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: RCW2001
Is it still OK for vouchers to be used at private schools if they say the Pledge at those schools?

/sarcasm

25 posted on 06/27/2002 7:37:35 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: ShadowAce
Yesterday's decision on the pledge had zero to do with today's decision, which was made weeks ago by the court.
26 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:08 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: RCW2001
The Constitution allows public money to underwrite tuition at religious schools as long as parents have a choice among a range of religious and secular schools
Obviously.
The 5-4 ruling [by] the Supreme Court
proved that 4 votes can be gleaned on the SCotUS for just about anything.

27 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: RCW2001
The Constitution allows public money to underwrite tuition at religious schools as long as parents have a choice among a range of religious and secular schools
Obviously.
The 5-4 ruling [by] the Supreme Court
proved that 4 votes can be gleaned on the SCotUS for just about anything.

28 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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YEAH BABY!!

yes yes yes yes yes!!!!
29 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:09 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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Opponents call vouchers a fraud meant to siphon tax money from struggling public schools.

As opposed to the government schools, which are a fraud meant to siphon money from struggling taxpayers.

That said, I've always thought that what the government funds, they will eventually control. As much as I like to see the liberals have a cow, I'm not a voucher supporter for that reason.

30 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:51 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: AAABEST; Dan from Michigan; Poohbah
Well, if you want more rulings like this, we need to get Leahy OUT as Senate Judiciary chair so Bush's nominees can sail through. Here in VA, Warner's safe (although I've not forgiven him for stabbing Ollie North in the back), so I might ship in a small contriubtion where it can knock off a Rat or two.

Any ideas?
31 posted on 06/27/2002 7:41:18 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: RCW2001
The Constitution allows public money to underwrite tuition at religious schools as long as parents have a choice among a range of religious and secular schools, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

Good for the Supremes (at least good for 5 of them!). This is the right decision.

32 posted on 06/27/2002 7:42:12 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: ladtx
"The 5-4 ruling led by the court's conservative majority lowers the figurative wall separating church and state "

Nice bit of editorializing isn't it? What a bunch of idiots. These people call themselves journalists; what they are in fact is a bunch of inept morons. Products of the socialist public school system (as am I), which is killing this once great nation. Hopefully this decision will go a long way toward saving it.

33 posted on 06/27/2002 7:43:29 AM PDT by cmak9
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To: RCW2001
Wonderful. And perfect timing, too. With the ACLU, NEA, and GLSEN hell-bent on imposing their government-subsidized, atheistic, amoral, pro-perversion, anti-pledge, anti-education agenda on a captive audience, this decision not only provides an escape but levels the playing field.
34 posted on 06/27/2002 7:43:50 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: FairWitness
We MUST keep the US Supreme Court in conservative hands. There is no higher priority for us.
35 posted on 06/27/2002 7:45:26 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RCW2001
Great News! In a dark world. A little control back form the all encompassing Big Govenrment.

HA! Eat that Union liberal NEA members.

Go study the CBEST so you can pass it on your fourth or fifth attempt!

36 posted on 06/27/2002 7:45:31 AM PDT by Kay Soze
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OK--I didn't know when the actual ruling was made. I'm not much on Court procedure.
37 posted on 06/27/2002 7:46:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: RCW2001
Opponents call vouchers a fraud meant to siphon tax money from struggling public schools.

Yep.

38 posted on 06/27/2002 7:46:26 AM PDT by A2J
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To: Kevin Curry
Where do I get my voucher for my homeschool?
39 posted on 06/27/2002 7:46:36 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: ladtx
That's not a biased report, is it? (/sarcasm)

Good grief! I only read the headline and then started reading comments. Your comment sent me back to finish reading the "article". You are so right - this article could be used as an exhibit for Ann Coulter's book, Slander.

40 posted on 06/27/2002 7:47:10 AM PDT by FairWitness
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I just heard a death-groan from the NEA.

To paraphrase Churchill, it's not the beginning of the end for them, but it is the end of the beginning.

The NEA's problem with vouchers is that it loosens their grip on curriculum and political power.

I'd bet that probably 80% of parents one talks to would love to have the option of vouchers, even if they chose not to use them. The option to leave means that the NEA can no longer count on running a closed shop.

Public schools will probably never be perfect, but prior to the rise of the NEA as a Democrat funding group the schools were a lot better than today. Vouchers won't return them to their former glory, but they can't hurt.

41 posted on 06/27/2002 7:47:11 AM PDT by r9etb
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a divisive education idea dear to political conservatives and championed by President Bush.

I like this phrase better. The media makes me sick. Thank God (heh, heh) for FR.

42 posted on 06/27/2002 7:48:10 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: 3AngelaD
LOL! loved that zinger, and I'm with you! This was a good decision. We needed this after yesterday.
43 posted on 06/27/2002 7:48:16 AM PDT by goodieD
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WASHN: to work. -AP Breaking News
(06-27) 07:46 PDT (AP) -- "It's important for the Supreme Court to occasionally send a shot across the bow to state prisons," said Jonathan Turley, a law professor at George Washington University. "It does send a message that the Su...

WASHINGTON: supporters noted. -AP Breaking News
(06-27) 07:46 PDT (AP) -- Thursday's ruling continued a trend of the court in recent years to ease the path toward state support of religion. In a case two years ago, the court ruled that providing educational equipment to relig...

44 posted on 06/27/2002 7:48:17 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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"the court's conservative majority"

If the issue were abortion, and the court was upholding that right, the spin would not be about the philosophical leanings of the court. No, we would be told: this is the law of the land!!! The court has spoken!!! The Constitution is sacred!!!
45 posted on 06/27/2002 7:48:30 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RCW2001
First the fierce public backlash against the liberal-inspired goof-ball decision against the Pledge of Allegience, and now this victory for parents opposed to subsidizing the secular humanist agenda in the public schools. This is indeed a dark and depressing day for liberals everywhere.

I'm almost tempted to go to DU to peek in on the weeping-and-wailing fest.

46 posted on 06/27/2002 7:49:09 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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As opposed to the government schools, which are a fraud meant to siphon money from struggling taxpayers

Damn, that's well said.

47 posted on 06/27/2002 7:50:43 AM PDT by katana
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To: RCW2001
The court endorsed a 6-year-old pilot program in inner-city Cleveland that provides parents a tax-supported education stipend

In another schools case Thursday, the court approved random drug tests for many public high school students

You win some and you loose some.

48 posted on 06/27/2002 7:50:54 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: jern
This is WAY cool! Now, let's see some legislative action!!
49 posted on 06/27/2002 7:51:53 AM PDT by Wphile
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To: PhiKapMom
And a major win for the inner city minority communities and a big loss for the teacher bolsheviks...
50 posted on 06/27/2002 7:52:05 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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