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5 rules for (CCW) Concealed Carry Weapon
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Posted on 06/28/2002 9:13:48 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER

5 Rules of Conceal and Carry (like a pistol)

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* YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY.

Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and criminal activities of another.

* KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON.

A criminal adversary must have or reasonably appear to have:

A. The ABILITY to inflict serious bodily injury. He is armed or reasonably appears to be armed.

B. The OPPORTUNITY to inflict serious bodily harm. He is positioned to harm you with his weapon, and,

C. His INTENT (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy - to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these "attack potential" elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response. Note that these conditions may be defined differently in certain circumstances. For example, a small woman may be justified in using deadly force with a handgun against a much stronger male who is unarmed and attempting to rape or kill her. For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.

3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!

Just because you are armed doesn't necessarily mean that you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your situation awareness skills so that you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble as much as possible. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might only be your bruised ego, which should heal quickly with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation, and it escalates into deadly force, you risk the possibility of death or serious injury to yourself and any friends, family members, or innocent bystanders that may be present.

Also you face the possibility of criminal liability and/or financial ruin from a civil lawsuit as a result of your actions. Flee if you can - fight only as a last resort.

Naturally, there are circumstances in which you may be able to flee but it would not be in your best interest or judgment to do so. For example, a situation that you could easily flee from when alone may be difficult to safely avoid if your family was with you. Also it may be a judgment/ethics call on whether or not to fight or flee based on what is happening to potential victims around you.

For example, a gunman may be threatening the life of someone else and not even notice you. If you leave the scene, and go call 911 and just wait for the police to show up, you may have to deal with guilt and emotional issues that result if the gunman kills someone. In contrast, if you intervene, then you may risk your own life. Remember that self-preservation, and keeping your loved ones safe should be your first priorities. Always remember to stay calm and quickly analyze the situation at hand. Use good judgment on how you will react to any given circumstance.

4. DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL.

You should expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional, innocent, or justified the situation might seem.

Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times. You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed weapon. He of she might become alarmed and report you as a "man or woman with a gun". Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested. Even though your jacket only blew open for a moment, giving a brief glimpse of your gun, that person may tell the police that you were waving it around like a homicidal maniac. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man or woman with a gun" is going to be a lot more credible to police than you are when you are stopped because you match the "suspect's" description and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession. Before you deliberately expose your gun in public, ask yourself "is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least both the ABILITY and INTENT and is actively seeking the OPPORTUNITY to do you great harm.

Also, remember that proper concealment of a weapon is more than just covering it up so that it is not physically visible. You want to remove as much as possible any signs that you are armed. For example, you would not wear a tight T-shirt that shows the lines of your gun printing through it, especially if that T-shirt has a firearm related logo or statement on it. Also, a black nylon fanny-pack or a photographer's vest may, in certain areas or in certain modes of dress tell any half-educated person that you are packing a gun. It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun. This fact should be limited to your immediate family and select friends who are "gun people" also. Please, for your sake and the sake of others around you - be discreet!

5. DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU.

When you are armed, you must realize that you just lost your right to initiate ANY type of confrontation that could possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You must now have a very mellow attitude on life and your fellow mankind.

You just lost the right to flip off the motorist who just cut you off in traffic. You have to ignore the scumbag who just "wolf-whistled" at your wife/girlfriend. If someone wants to pick a fight with you, you lost the right to respond in any way other than a kind, friendly manner while walking away. As an armed person you must be more likely and willing to avoid trouble that an unarmed person would be. You have the legal and moral obligation of de-escalating any situation that you are presented with unless you are faced by someone displaying all three of the "attack potential" elements. Carrying a loaded firearm among your fellow citizens is an awesome responsibility that is not to be taken lightly.

Remember, once you strap on your weapon, you must carry with it a great measure of discretion and judgment, along with an easy-going attitude.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antigun; banglist; ccw; crime; guncontrol; selfdefense
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To: glc1173@aol.com
So avoid all those new tiny .32 semis.

I cant think of anyone, EVER!, who was shot 3 times in the chest, and 3 times in the face, with a Beretta Tomcat shooting winchester silvertips that would voluntar to be shot again by a .32.

Would YOU?, not be afraid of someone who is pointing a Beretta Tomcat at your face??

Do you have ANY statistics on how many criminals were undeterred after being shot 6 times with .32 winchester silvertips?

61 posted on 06/28/2002 3:39:16 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: RogueIsland
RogueIsland said

The acquaintance had a concealed hangun on him at the time and at some point in the incident the other person noticed the firearm (I think with all the confusion and fuss, the man's shirt rode up for a moment over the revolver grip protruding from the IWB holster).

So the angry motorist decided to tell the cops he was "threatened with a gun" by this guy.

Chicagofarmer said

Yep you are right. Cry, scream, lie, false statements is SOP with liberals and non gun society.

Never Never reveal your weapon but errors occur. Definately Witnesses are your friends, treat them right.


62 posted on 06/28/2002 5:28:57 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: All
"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

"KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON."

"IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!"

"DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL."

"DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU." "YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

Although these are very good rules to live by for concealed carry in the heat of the moment no one person can know how she or he will act at the time of engagment if your going to conceal carry follow these rules but above all of them THINK BEFORE YOU ACT

63 posted on 06/28/2002 5:41:28 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
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64 posted on 06/28/2002 7:14:54 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: pocat
You wrote: It has probably saved me a lot of hassles with former anti-gun co-workers. Most of them had already branded me as the resident right-wing kook, and I didn't need to give them anymore ammo...

Thank you for the tip! My family thinks I am their "resident right-wing kook" and are freaked out by me. I have had many prolonged and frustrating 2nd Amendment/RTKBA discussions with them and they still refuse to even try to remotely understand the facts. So, I give up. I know now to save myself from potential hassles with co-workers. What is that line about beating dead horses?

65 posted on 06/28/2002 9:23:38 PM PDT by Rollee
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
You said

Although these are very good rules to live by for concealed carry in the heat of the moment no one person can know how she or he will act at the time of engagment if your going to conceal carry follow these rules but above all of them THINK BEFORE YOU ACT

I say

That is right. But if you are so fearful for your life then Item A B and C are in place. If you can't think and handle responsibility then you should leave your self defense at home. Police officer train for the moment, and so should you. If you have not, then you are more dangerous than someone who trains regularly.

chicagofarmer

66 posted on 06/29/2002 6:41:57 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: Rollee
Notice I said "former" co-workers. The place I work at now is owned and run by a right-wing conservative family. Guns are bought, sold and traded freely on company property. It's a normal part of the environment (which it should be everywhere). As I type this, I'm gearing up for a paintball war tomorrow at work. This is one of the reasons I took this job.

Yes, leave the dead horse alone. My parents and I don't even speak now over different issues. One of them is my "rebellious" attitude against "government authority." They believe that everyone should submit to every government whim without question. Save yourself and those you love closest to you and forget about the rest. Often, we assume that everyone shares the same philosophies as us because ours is based on LOGIC and common sense. Sadly, that's not always the case.

67 posted on 06/29/2002 7:50:24 AM PDT by pocat
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
A note about ammunition:
Many Texas CCP instructors advise that "soft-point" or hollow-point shells be kept in your weapon, especially for home defense/protection.
If you use a solid projectile, it has the potential to pass through an intruder and do some damage/injury to a neighbor or passer-by. Judges and juries just may be screwy enough to find you liable for such collateral damage, even though your original decision to use lethal force was completely justified.
As goofy as it may seem, I have only hollow-point ammo for all my firearms.
TGR, TX CCP
68 posted on 06/29/2002 8:14:00 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: TheGrimReaper
To GrimReaper

Many Texas CCP instructors advise that "soft-point" or hollow-point shells be kept in your weapon, especially for home defense/protection.
If you use a solid projectile, it has the potential to pass through an intruder and do some damage/injury to a neighbor or passer-by. Judges and juries just may be screwy enough to find you liable for such collateral damage, even though your original decision to use lethal force was completely justified.

Chicagofaremer says.

Yep. I will probably never never fire my weapon for self defense. I am working with a company that sells equipment to police departments. Long story short, our conversation has come around to using bean bags in 12 guage shotguns. It will put a man down. It provides protection to family and neighbors and self. I am seriously considering a home 12 guage defense.

For the road soft points are the choice.


69 posted on 06/29/2002 11:39:10 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL

Not true in the great State of North Carolina. Our permits are for CONCEALED weapons. You need no permit to wear a weapon openly. The only thing approaching this in North Carolina is that DRAWING, or UNCONCEALING a weapon in the presence of a LEO unless by his/her request should be done carefully. Diplaying a weapon is actually not uncommon in some places here. HOLDING a weapon in threatening way is another story.

Displaying an NRA sticker is currently legal, but with the bent toward pin-headed Judges these days who knows if this will be lumped in at some future date...
70 posted on 06/29/2002 11:58:55 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: pocat
I am happy for the fortunate change in your employment. I am starting a new career (real estate) where I can work as an indepent contractor. The independence is the best part of the job. Your advice about the dead horse is good. Good luck to you!!
71 posted on 06/29/2002 4:06:20 PM PDT by Rollee
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
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72 posted on 06/29/2002 7:09:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
It is surprising this appears on the JPFO website, I will research this.

The mentality expressed in these rules reflect the slow slide into barbarism that has brought both England and Australia among others to their current low estate.

The emphasis on the "duty to retreat" and the notion guns are intrinsically dangerous as inanimate objects and thus must be carefully concealed up to and including avoidance of fanny packs and vests reflects a desire on the part of the writer to inculcate fear and hesitation in the mind of the law abiding gunowner rather than focus on the savage violence criminals visit on the unsuspecting and unprepared.

Within living memory concealed weapons were considered the mark of the dishonest and criminal and many states and regions both encouraged and required "open carry" or visible display of weapons by the owner.

In modern times concealed carry has two primary advantages:

1.It foils many attempts by muggers and thugs to disarm their victims with a pre-emptive assault.

2. It creates the proper atmosphere of uncertainty in potential assailants as they are unable to easily discern who is armed and who is unarmed.

The only standard by which a thoroughly civilized society should measure gunownership is the standard upheld by the tiny state of Vermont where guns are carried, stored, transported,transfered or handled without penalty up until they are used in a criminal act at which point the state enacts severe penalties against the perpetrator.

In real life assaults it is frequently impossible to expeditiously determine the level of threat offered by a potential assailant.

In fact, Professor John Lott has documented between 1-2 MILLION ASSAULTS A YEAR are averted when a firearm is displayed by the potential victim of a crime. No shots are ever fired and no injuries are sustained by either the attacker or attackee.

Politically correct government officials who seek to pad their resumes by charging innocent taxpaying,property owning,law abiding citizens with busywork violations of law should be summarily removed from office and never allowed to work in government for the rest of their lives.

This entire list of rules carries with it the embedded premise that the "gun control state of mind is good" and Sovereign Citizens in a Representative Constitutional Republic are bad.

This embedded premise should not be endorsed,approved or encouraged.

Best regards,

73 posted on 06/29/2002 8:01:23 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: safisoft
to safisoft

Not true in the great State of North Carolina. Our permits are for CONCEALED weapons. You need no permit to wear a weapon openly. The only thing approaching this in North Carolina is that DRAWING, or UNCONCEALING a weapon in the presence of a LEO unless by his/her request should be done carefully. Diplaying a weapon is actually not uncommon in some places here. HOLDING a weapon in threatening way is another story.

Displaying an NRA sticker is currently legal, but with the bent toward pin-headed Judges these days who knows if this will be lumped in at some future date...

chicagofarmer says

Isn't the state of NC just great for CCW. We here in IL just have the safe neighborhood act. Carry unloaded in a case. That means a fanny pack and unloaded but loaded clip.

We could use your help anytime you see Mayor Daley of Chicago and is crew rant about disarming citizens.

Thanks for hte help

chicagofarmer

74 posted on 06/30/2002 5:49:35 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: Copernicus
You said

Politically correct government officials who seek to pad their resumes by charging innocent taxpaying,property owning,law abiding citizens with busywork violations of law should be summarily removed from office and never allowed to work in government for the rest of their lives.

This entire list of rules carries with it the embedded premise that the "gun control state of mind is good" and Sovereign Citizens in a Representative Constitutional Republic are bad.

This embedded premise should not be endorsed,approved or encouraged.

Best regards,

Chicagofarmer says thank you for your comments.


75 posted on 06/30/2002 5:51:24 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Just found this excellent concealed weapon article. thank you.


76 posted on 11/17/2008 9:35:31 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: glc1173@aol.com

Nothing smaller than 9mm


77 posted on 10/18/2013 8:31:35 PM PDT by JusticePiece
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To: JusticePiece

The point is, the bullet must do sufficient damage the first round maybe second, not a full magazine to subdue a bad guy. Your not range shooting, a real encounter needs to be a quick incapaciation.


78 posted on 10/18/2013 8:42:42 PM PDT by JusticePiece
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