[Paul Atreides]

I love it! This scum of the Earth is running scared! Rush was right when he said they really get looney when out of power.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

Apparently these jackoffs have never bothered to listen to the recording from the Cleveland Center air traffic control. Nowhere in that recording is there any mention of any non-civilian aircraft in the area.And what exactly is this "overwhelming eveidence" they speak of that prove Flight 93 was shot down? Hmmm?

"After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

More BS. I think that most Americans would have been proud of the President for having the guts to do it and proud of the Air Force for reponing so quickly.

A-holes.

[truth_session]

So he had these people killed? Would it make him any different than Clinton?

[Nick Danger]

I know of a certain conservative web site where no plane goes down without somebody proposing that The Gubment did it. Or Clinton's henchmen. Or, you know, them.

We were all wondering where Michael Rivero went. Maybe....

[summer]

This news from Newsmax sounds to me like more evidence the Dems are determined to drive away every swing and independent voter from voting Dem. Oh well! All the better for 3rd parties and the GOP, I guess.

BTW, on a related note and FYI -- BOBTHENAILER posted, below, the following recent thread is a "classic" and should be "savored" like a "fine wine":

RAT ATTACK
[Or: The Left is self-destructing as we speak...]

[cake_crumb]

As a resident of Pennsylvania who lives under a main flyway for both military and civilian aircraft....I can tell you for a fact that this is a very BAD attempt at propaganda, meant to draw in the tinfiol hat fringe of the left wing, who are then meant to creat an urban legend about it....expect this tall tale to resurface twice more before the November elections.

[gwynapnudd]

"Pennsylvania state police officials said on Thursday debris from the plane had been found up to 8 miles away [from the crash site] in a residential community where local media have quoted residents as speaking of a second plane in the area and burning debris falling from the sky.”

It was shot down and , given the prior crashes into the WTC and the Pentagon, it was the correct action to minimize loss of life.

Believe the cover story if it makes you feel better.

[belleoftheball414]

Take a look at the nice picture they have in the middle.

http://www.democrats.com

They're so tolerant, doncha think? ::sarcasm::

Little bastards.

The worst part of all of this is that they actually think they're right...

Au revoir,

*Belle

[RasterMaster]

Anyone with a miniscule brain could figure out from the impact site that the plane plowed into the ground at a high rate of speed. Never heard any reports of debris found miles away. Besides, if a Democrat says it, it's naturally a lie with some small basis on actual events. Planes were not shot down, but if they were - better shot down than on the White House lawn.

[Husker24]

So what if they did shoot it down.

[Jorge]

Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

.... and Todd Beemer's wife being invited to the President's speech was a phoney prop and her speaking around the country, and the cell phone call from the plane and those who claimed they heard him say "let's roll" before taking on the highjackers were lying...etc etc etc.
Right.

I hope the Democrats keep this crap up so everybody can see them for the hysterical delusional mental cases they really are.

[Jhoffa_]

According to the Washposts account of Fight 93 Cheney did order it shot down, it was only till later that they determined it had crashed on it's own.

And, honestly.. it makes no difference one way or the other. The plane had to come down and the passengers knew that, as well as the Vice President.

You cannot allow someone flying a bomb to reach a target like the WTC, it's common sense. So, even if it was a shootdown how does this tarnish the Administration? Because they realized the same thing the passengers did? What does that prove and how is it bad?

[cookcounty]

""Here is a very likely scenario," says the web site. "Bush was approving the shooting down of hijacked airliners, which led Dick Cheney to order the shooting down "

What idiots.

Cheney has no authority to order anything more than another ice tea. If it was a conspiracy, it would have to be Cheney who convinced Bush to give the order. These guys can't even write plausible fiction.

[CAfraudPI]

Wasn't there eyewitnesses to the crash who stated that the airplane was upside down just prior to impact?? I do not recall any referances to the airplane exploding prior to imact with the ground.

[AlGone2001]

It's just a few months to election time, and this is their best campaign issue?

[doug from upland]

MIDI - CAMP GRENADA

Hello democrats dot commie…we will make you cry to mommy
If for battle, you’re insistent…in a game of wits your IQ’s non-existent

What a website…trite and boring…in just seconds…all are snoring
A-ho Fertik…watch him edit…we would call him stupid but that’s too much credit

Here’s a question…will you level…is your deal with the devil?
Just admit it…you are jealous…your site ought to read “We stink, click on and smell us”

You supported the Sinkmaster…for our country, a disaster
Are your kneepads now retired…or in lies and treason are you guys still mired

You are all such whining losers…and misguided hopeless boozers
Get a job…we know the pay’s not good when you’re bused in with rent-a-mob

What accounts for your behavior…lowlifes you see as your savior
It is clear…if anyone looks close…your head is in your rear

Wait a minute…here’s fair warning…if we hear of FReeper scorning
There’s no pris’ner we’ll be taking…you can bet that your whole body will be aching

We’ll have mercy…you look sickly…death for you guys will come quickly
We are ready…are you frightened…by that look we know your sphincter has just tightened

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I could not be President if I did not believe in a divine plan that supersedes all human plans. Politics is a fickle business. Polls change. Today's friend is tomorrow's adversary. People lavish praise and attention. Many times it is genuine; sometimes it is not. Yet I build my life on a foundation that will not shift. My faith frees me. Frees me to put the problem of the moment in proper perspective. Frees me to make decisions that others might not like. Frees me to try to do the right thing, even though it may not poll well.

...Pastor Mark Craig, was telling me that my re-election was the first Governor to win back-to-back, four-year terms in the history of the State of Texas. It was a beginning, not an end... People are starved for faithfulness. He talked of the need for honesty in government. He warned that leaders who cheat on their wives will cheat their country, will cheat their colleagues, will cheat themselves.
President Bush's statement of faith

[Our man in washington]

Here's a party game for news junkies:

It's called "Democrat for a Day." Player one comes up with a negative event, such as a company going bankrupt, a dog getting sick on a car ride, whatever. All other players then write on an index card how that event can be blamed on President Bush. Player one then reads off the cards, and each player votes for the explanation that best captures the Democrat's way of thinking, with no one allowed to vote for their own explanation.

Scores are automatically doubled if the players can create an explanation that shows that President Bush was not neglectful, but actually malicious.

Here's an example of how the game might be played:

The event "Cousin Floyd's Dog dying at the age of 17."

Explanation #1: "In his many speeches, Bush has not once explained the need for better veteranary medicine, instead spending his time waging a war against the poorest people on earth to cover up the fact he stole the election. Like most Republicans, Bush doesn't care about dogs, since they aren't campaign donors." (This gets only single credit, since it's only the uncaring angle.)

Explanation #2: "Bill Clinton has been remarkably silent in his criticism of President Bush. Considering Clinton understands better than anyone else how Bush is destroying the nation, it's obvious that Clinton has been intimidated into silence. The death of Clinton's dog Buddy is no coincidence. Note how it happened right when Bush was trying to get support for the war. Bush realized, of course, that if the truth ever came to light, millions of dog owners would never vote Republican again. To reduce possible damage to the Republican party, Bush decided to reduce the number of dog owners in the country as much as possible. Because of watchdogs like Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky, he realized he couldn't get away with killing the owners (yet), but he could kill the dogs. Hundreds of dogs die in this country ever day. It's time the gutless press persued the logical explanation." (Maliciousness implied. Double credit.)

Anyway, have fun!

[Our man in washington]

Here's a party game for news junkies:

It's called "Democrat for a Day." Player one comes up with a negative event, such as a company going bankrupt, a dog getting sick on a car ride, whatever. All other players then write on an index card how that event can be blamed on President Bush. Player one then reads off the cards, and each player votes for the explanation that best captures the Democrat's way of thinking, with no one allowed to vote for their own explanation.

Scores are automatically doubled if the players can create an explanation that shows that President Bush was not neglectful, but actually malicious.

Here's an example of how the game might be played:

The event "Cousin Floyd's Dog dying at the age of 17."

Explanation #1: "In his many speeches, Bush has not once explained the need for better veteranary medicine, instead spending his time waging a war against the poorest people on earth to cover up the fact he stole the election. Like most Republicans, Bush doesn't care about dogs, since they aren't campaign donors." (This gets only single credit, since it's only the uncaring angle.)

Explanation #2: "Bill Clinton has been remarkably silent in his criticism of President Bush. Considering Clinton understands better than anyone else how Bush is destroying the nation, it's obvious that Clinton has been intimidated into silence. The death of Clinton's dog Buddy is no coincidence. Note how it happened right when Bush was trying to get support for the war. Bush realized, of course, that if the truth ever came to light, millions of dog owners would never vote Republican again. To reduce possible damage to the Republican party, Bush decided to reduce the number of dog owners in the country as much as possible. Because of watchdogs like Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky, he realized he couldn't get away with killing the owners (yet), but he could kill the dogs. Hundreds of dogs die in this country ever day. It's time the gutless press persued the logical explanation." (Maliciousness implied. Double credit.)

Anyway, have fun!

[RichInOC]

I don't know whether to be angry that these punks are so amoral and low-class as to suggest Bush and Cheney murdered the people on Flight 93 for a fundraising gimmick...or feel sorry for them because Fertik and his fellow honchos at dem's.com are heavy-duty political players, closely tied to the Clintons and current DNC leadership, and this crap is the best they can come up with almost a year after 9/11. Sad.

[Lucky2]

The party of the rat is so vile, so disgusting, so ignorant, such lying scum sucking vermon, that they would stoop to saying something this deceitful. I've gotten to the point that if one is a demorat, I'm not interested in even carrying on a conversation with them let alone wanting to get to know them! They stink and may they rot in their own filthy sh*t.