Pressured by U.S., Israel Battles a Burgeoning 'White Slave' Trade

Forward ^ | 6/28/02 | MATTHEW GUTMAN

[woofer]

Funny how this article tries very hard to make it sound as if the Israelis allows slavery. It was very obvious to me within the first couple of sentences that white slavery was the issue.

Real slavery is only being practiced under islamist regimes like Sudan and a few African countries. White slavery is being perpetrated against western Europe and even in the US by criminals that prey upon weak and desperate girls, whether at the bus station or from the former eastern bloc countries.

[Phil V.]

But prosecutors have said their work will continue to be low-key as long as citizens are not bothered by the phenomenon en masse.

In the present atmosphere defined daily by terrorism and fears of terrorism one is inclined to give Israeli society a pass. But there were years of "relative calm" between intifada I and II. Where was the Israeli conscience then?

[BrooklynGOP]

But there were years of "relative calm" between intifada I and II.

Relative calm? Relative to what?

[Phil V.]

relative to the firestorm of violence subsequent to October 2000

[BrooklynGOP]

relative to the firestorm of violence subsequent to October 2000

So that's the benchmark now?

[Phil V.]

Yes, I believe that most view the future of Israel and Palestine from the benchmark of violence established between Oct 2000 and now as opposed to the years after Oslo when there was "relative calm". Of course a few of us would prefer to measure today's level of insanity using the earlier benchmark. But then, depending on one's agenda, there are as many benchmarks as are needed to make one's point.

[nothingnew]

...smuggled from Ukraine into Egypt and from there over the Israeli border by Bedouins.

It's time to ask all these ME countries the obvious question:

Whose bed o uin??

FMCDH

[etcetera]

Bedouins are Muslims. So Muslims are still active in slave trading in the 21st Century. I suppose there's some excuse for this in the Koran.

[LarryLied]

Yes, the Bedouins did it. They have many contacts in the Ukraine and the Russian Mafia.

[BrooklynGOP]

Yes, I believe that most view the future of Israel and Palestine from the benchmark of violence established between Oct 2000 and now as opposed to the years after Oslo when there was "relative calm".

No, that's what Arafat and the rest of the terrorists would want you to do.

[Phil V.]

Are you saying that the Israelis are not preoccupied with fear of terrorism? Are you saying that the social compalcency that allows the trading of women into bondage is simple compalcency - "not me, hence not my problem"?

How DO YOU explain Israel's seeming complacency WRT this trading in human "service"?

[BrooklynGOP]

Yes, the Bedouins did it. They have many contacts in the Ukraine and the Russian Mafia.

You might want to read up on russian hookers in Dubai, Egypt, etc.

[Lurker]

It doesn't look they are being complacent to me. They've made arrests, and will undoubtedly make more.

But, when 10 or 15 people a week are being murdered by psycopaths strapping bombs to children, the local gendarmes tend to focus their energies elsewhere. Quite understandably IMO.

Why don't you seem upset at the fact the the home countries of these 'bedouins' aren't stopping the smuggling?

L

[Britton J Wingfield]

In the present atmosphere defined daily by terrorism and fears of terrorism one is inclined to give Israeli society a pass. But there were years of "relative calm" between intifada I and II. Where was the Israeli conscience then?

Same place as the American conscience. This goes on in the US, too. We both work to stamp it out, though admittedly it's far from the highest priority in either case.

[LarryLied]

What is the ratio Dore Gold uses to compare Israeli deaths to American deaths?

40 to 1?

Assuming that is the number, America has 120,000 women sold into sex slavery every year.

Seems high to me.

[Phil V.]

Why don't you seem upset at the fact the the home countries of these 'bedouins' aren't stopping the smuggling?

Because G_d did not choose those people and burden them with a covenant that requires of them better behavior. G_d chose Israel.

. . . in essence, for the same reason that most on this forum find those other populations more . . . uh . . . "disposable".

[BrooklynGOP]

40 to 1? Assuming that is the number, America has 120,000 women sold into sex slavery every year.

Your ratio is all kinds of wrong. Those women are not Jews. 3000 is just a number that's in Israel. If you really care like you pretending to be, why don't you give us a figure of all the women from ex USSR republics who are hooking around the world?

[Shermy]

Since you ask, I read about it a lot on the net, especially in the Asian communities and Eastern Euro mob type situations.

Here's a sad story out in Cali story for you:

Landlord's son pleads guilty 2-year sentence likely in Berkeley sex-smuggling case

I've also seen stories about South Americans and others keeping domestics as virtual slaves. For example, the Saudi Princess tale from Florida.

[LarryLied]

My point is there is an image being projected which is false. We are allies with Pakistan but no one has any illusions about what that country is all about. While it is good America supports Israel, it is not healthy for Israel or us to give Israel a pass on whatever she does or allows to be done. Winking at sex slavery is only part of the problem.

So far I see no inclination to condemn this. All I hear is the Clinton excuse: "Everybody does it!...what about Asia?...what about the USA?..."

If major Jewish groups in America spent less time trying to block those moralistic conservative Christians from being confirmed to the bench and turned their attention to sex slavery in Israel the problem would end almost immediately.