Posted on 06/30/2002 5:51:46 AM PDT by csvset
That's not what you said when you posted to Cultural Jihad. You implied that I was trying to cause trouble in an act of desperation due to my "lack of an argument". Let me refresh your memory...
I have never even talked to you on the forum before Cultural Jihad, so I have no idea what this person is trying to insinuate. You see, these kind of ridiculous assumptions are what happens when someone has not much going for them in the way of a legitimate and viable argument.
Gee, I wonder who's the one that is desperate?
Of course, you get your information from sources like "Korea, the Sadistic Country".
Yeah, NOW you tell us.
NOW I know I over-estimated my fellow man.
Now you're being silly.
Pork and chicken are cheap--less than half the cost per wieght--compared to dog.
Give it up. You've waded into water over your head. Time to head back to the kiddie pool.
You obviously don't know anything about me.
You drive the point home better than I.
Sorry again, I didn't mean to insult you. You know, at one time I considered myself to be a "libertarian". But after seeing their antics here on FR, well, let's just say I don't know what would actually be worse, a full blown liberal or a libertarian...
Go back and find the host of links I've provided in some of my earlier posts. If you'd like, I'll post more of them. I find it interesting that sites that DID have upto date images and videos have been pulled. Perhaps too much squawking from the Red Chinese?
NOW I know I over-estimated my fellow man.
From your comments and those of your friend FJC, I can see why you would feel that way. I feel the same. Not really that surprised though, as I did see some other misguided soul on another thread advocate forced child labor in China, saying that it was good for the US economy.
Posted: November 15, 2000 10:00 PM
(WSVN) In America --- dogs are companions --- pets. . . .
In Korea dogs they are a delicacy. . . tortured...and eaten. . . .
Kyenan Kum, International Aid for Korean Animals
"Everything is just incredibly cruel. . . and I cannot help to cry...and every time I go over I cry and I have nightmares."
Kyenan Kum has just returned from Korea---what she has seen---what this videotape shows---is horrifying. . .
Millions of cats and dogs are rounded up. . . . . .
Many of the animals are pets. . . . that are stolen from yards and sold in markets...
but the cramped cages are the least troubling aspect of this outrage. . . . . . . . . . . what the animals face is what will stun you...
Patrick Fraser, Investigative Reporter
"The Koreans believe that dog meat is an aphrodisiac---but to make the meat as potent as possible...they believe the animal must have an adreniline rush before it is slaughtered...to get the adreniline pumping...they want the dog to be terrified...and so they torture them."
Many dogs are hung from trees --kicked and beaten...sometimes with rocks...sometimes with poles...
Witness says
"That dog is still suffering, that dog is still alive."
This video was shot by a tourist...when the dog beater saw him...he lowered the animal to the ground...and petted him...the dog wagged his tail...still whimpering in pain...but the dog ended up here..
In another torture to create the adrenilin rush...they boil the animals alive... look at the dogs trying to escape...Kyenan has witnessed it...
Kyenan Kum
"It's not completely killed most time ....so its sometimes it alive. and then they start blow-torching to remove fur and the brown skin...and sometimes it alive."
The animals are then sold -------at open air markets---rows and rows of butchered dogs. . .promoted as an aphrodisiac in Korea. . . they will bring 300 dollars a piece. . . . . . . .and the myth that the animals make men more virile has led to the spread of the torture of dogs in other asian countries.
Susan Ashley activist
"There's just big money to made in this. it's a billion dollar a year industry"
Susan Ashley is fighting from South Florida to stop the torture of the animals in Korea ...she says she has also discovered that Korean newspapers in the us are now running ads for dog meat.
Susan Ashley activist
"There's somebody we found out in Maryland who is selling dogs."
We found out through the korean papers, they're selling them for about 800-dollars per dog here"
In North and South Korea the governments have outlawed the torture of the animals..but since it is popular...the law is obviously not enforced...to get that done opponents of the torture want the us government to help.
And so we took the tape to Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen who has three dogs of her own, to see if she thinks the us should try to help..needless to say the tape stunned her.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Congresswoman
"Oh my gosh. . . oh my gosh."
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Congresswoman
"If I hadn't seen it i would just say that does not happen."
Ros-Lehtinen says the torture must be stopped.
"Somebody could say well we eat meat here and we eat animals but we don't torture them to death and they're not domestic pets."
Ros-Lehtinen says people should ask their Congressman to help pressure Korea.
Ashley wants americans to boycott products made in Korea. . .and she wants people to urge companies sponsoring the world cup in South Korea in 2002--to withdraw their money.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Congresswoman
"We're asking these sponsors to please please stand up to the plate and step out of the sponsorship unless Korea upholds it's laws against animal cruelty."
It's hoped since the korean governments wont bend to humanatarian pressure--they will listen when the us dollars are pulled back.
and it has to be stopped quickly. . . Kum says.
Kyenan Kum
"This is inhumane totally inhumane and totally unnecessary."
Patrick Fraser Investigative Reporter
Totally unnecessary and in the year 2,000 certainly unbelievable.
Patrick Fraser Seven News.
If you want to know how to help the animals by boycotting products or pressuring the Korean government just log on to our website at http://www.wsvn.com
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