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Bush Policies Prompt Aides to Leave (Extreme Whine Alert)
The Detroit News | Sunday, June 30, 2002 | Elizabeth Shogren

Posted on 07/01/2002 10:41:40 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER

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To: Shermy
As for the road issue, that's pathetic.

I posted this on another thread earlier and it points out in graphic detail, your road thoughts.

Just a little math to ponder: 60' (timber fire break) times 5280' (mile) times 100 miles, divided by 43560 (sq ft in acre) equals 727.27 acres cleared. At close to 500,000 acres burned to the ground, cleared, wasted and wiped out for at least 10-20years, I would call the trade-off quite good. Bear in mind that 100 miles of a sixty foot timber break is only my guess as to what would be sufficient for a safety margin. Even if it's double or triple that, the tradeoff is more than good. Then again, common sense does not exist with Enviro/nazi's!!!

41 posted on 07/01/2002 12:32:56 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Thanks, Bob, for the ping and the read. It's appropriate to insert here THE admonition given to Adam and Eve at their creation:

Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every livng thing that moves upon the earth.'"

Our President knows these words, I'm sure ...

42 posted on 07/01/2002 1:10:32 PM PDT by Pegita
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To: Pegita
'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every livng thing that moves upon the earth.'"

Very nice. Most enviros probably haven't got that far in the bible.

43 posted on 07/01/2002 1:21:12 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Most enviros probably haven't got that far in the bible.

ROFL!! ;-)

44 posted on 07/01/2002 1:30:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: BOBTHENAILER
> 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds
of the air and over every livng thing that moves upon the earth.'"

> Very nice. Most enviros probably haven't got that far in the bible.

They probably think that passage is addressed to lawyers... Who are succeeding...
45 posted on 07/01/2002 1:45:33 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Another in the plus column for Bush. Dang..if he keeps this up my score card may tie.
46 posted on 07/01/2002 2:00:40 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!
47 posted on 07/01/2002 2:04:55 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: CedarDave; AAABEST; BOBTHENAILER; brityank; farmfriend
A little bit here about the early origins of the madness we are dealing with today.

http://moxnix2.homestead.com/global2.html

GLOBAL GOVERNANCE (Part 4 of 9)
By Henry Lamb


THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT (1970s)

Not a single vote was cast against the Wilderness Act of 1964 when it
finally reached the Senate. Congress thought it was setting aside nine
million acres of wilderness so posterity could see a sample of what their
forefathers had to conquer in order to create America. The new law was the
crowning achievement of the Wilderness Society, to which its Director,
Howard Zahniser had devoted five years of constant lobbying. Though
unnoticed at the time, the new law signaled an end to the traditional
"conservation" movement and the beginning of a new environmental
"preservation" movement. The conservation movement might be characterized
by the idea that private land owners should voluntarily conserve natural
resources; the environmental preservation movement is characterized by the
notion that the government should enforce conservation measures through
extensive regulations. By this distinction, the Wilderness Society brought
the environmental movement to Congress. Robert Marshall, Benton MacKaye,
and Aldo Leopold -- all avowed socialists -- organized the Society in the
early 1930s and proclaimed their socialist ideas loudly. Marshall's 1933
book, The People's Forests, says:

"Public ownership is the only basis on which we can hope to protect the
incalculable values of the forests for wood resources, for soil and water
conservation, and for recreation . . . . Regardless of whether it might be
desirable, it is impossible under our existing form of government to
confiscate the private forests into public ownership. We cannot afford to
delay their nationalization until the form of government changes."37

This significant event failed to register a blip on the radar screen of
public awareness. Instead, public attention focused on the racial strife,
the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago, and the Viet Nam War which tore
apart the convention, the party, and the nation. The First "Earth Day" in
1970, which perhaps coincidentally was celebrated on Lenin's birthday,
April 22, was viewed as little more than a festival for flower children.
The anti-war fervor, again, brought a quarter-million protesters to the
Mall, and Watergate brought down the Nixon Presidency. The Clean Water Act
of 1972 and the Endangered Species Act of 1973 served as beacons to attract
the energies and idealism of a generation of young people who had
successfully forced the world's most powerful government to abandon a war
they saw to be unjust. The 1970s witnessed an unprecedented explosion in
the number of environmental organizations and in the number of people who
joined and supported these organizations.


48 posted on 07/01/2002 2:07:25 PM PDT by madfly
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To: MissAmericanPie
. Dang..if he keeps this up my score card may tie.

By the time he's through, if we can get the senate in Nov., your scorecard may be a lot better than a tie.

49 posted on 07/01/2002 2:16:50 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: madfly; petuniasevan
Been brewing way too long. Another good find. Petuniasevan, check out this thread.
50 posted on 07/01/2002 2:19:48 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: B4Ranch
. May they soon suffer the same as the people who have lived under their decisions while they were with environmental agencies

Very well said.

51 posted on 07/01/2002 2:22:25 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: TC Rider
the media wasn't too worried when Hillary fired all of the US Attorneys.

I can't even imagine the out cry from the media if Bush would have returned the favor. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

52 posted on 07/01/2002 2:25:35 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: EternalVigilance
see #48
53 posted on 07/01/2002 2:42:02 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Henry Lamb is a national treasure...nice post!
54 posted on 07/01/2002 2:49:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
thanks. He sure keeps at it, and serves it up so we can understand it.
55 posted on 07/01/2002 2:53:12 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Thanks for all the useful info.
56 posted on 07/01/2002 3:04:52 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree
Here is one of the greatest sources available anywhere:

http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/


57 posted on 07/01/2002 3:15:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks for the link- I appreciate good info on the environment.
58 posted on 07/01/2002 3:30:51 PM PDT by mafree
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I couldn't resist this one though. The reporter's attempts to glorify these high minded, noble crybabies only serves to make them look worse.

Thanks, Bob, I needed that. Remember the Detroit News and WJR, Paul Harvey?

The press crossed the line some time back, but especially in the last few months (the "what did he know" nonsense during wartime). Getting the townspeople outraged enough to storm the local newspaper with tar and feathers may be impossible, but at least we have each other...we band of few. (^:

59 posted on 07/01/2002 4:45:33 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every livng thing that moves upon the earth.'" Our President knows these words, I'm sure ...

So did the last one; it's just that HE thought it meant that he got all the Monica's he could stand.

60 posted on 07/01/2002 4:57:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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