Lies, Inc.: The Pledge Exposes The Failure of Government Schools

Mercurial Times ^ | 07/01/02 | Sean Finnegan

[nunya bidness]

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[doxteve]

Bump for private & homeschooling and the restoration of our nation's values instead of Antonio Gramsci's.

[Texasforever]

Bump for private & homeschooling and the restoration of our nation's values instead of Antonio Gramsci's.

This is a great article on the history of public education. I will bookmark it. Now, as for homeschooling. How far does that go? K-12? If so that is feasable but many parents do not have the education themselves for home schooling much less the time or devotion to do it. That being said, there is a real need for competition with the public school system and that will come only with some type of voucher system. Absent that there needs to be the political will to shut down schools that serve as indoctrination centers and warehouses.

[nunya bidness]

I think homeschooling goes K-12.

As far as vouchers are concerned you can bet that between the public school administrators and the teachers unions they will fight the loss of funding tooth and nail.

[Texasforever]

As far as vouchers are concerned you can bet that between the public school administrators and the teachers unions they will fight the loss of funding tooth and nail.

Well the USSC just pulled a few of their teeth. LOL

[Mo1]

Well the USSC just pulled a few of their teeth. LOL

Maybe so but these Unions will not go down without a fight

I just found out recently that the President of the Teachers Union in Philly is also associated with the Teamsters .. and there is a crowd many here are afraid of

[nunya bidness]

This is true. Although I didn't read the opinion. How did it come down?

I did see that the court ruled that kids did not have an expectation of privacy and that, as such, they could be tested for drugs and their records could be released.

The thing that struck me in reading the history of public schooling was how the schools were religious but that the bickering about which faith was the "right" one ultimately led to the loss of any faith in school.

[Crossbow Eel]

 
 

We are "One Nation Under God" ! I'll Bump To That ! It looks like the left is attacking our country !

[Texasforever]

You didn't see the thread on the USSC upholding Cincinnati’s Voucher program? I'll see if I can find it.

[nunya bidness]

I don't think you read what I wrote.

[nunya bidness]

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[nunya bidness]

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[rwfromkansas]

Very good article. Thanks.

I still am screaming and complaining over the Pledge decision, but it is good to be reminded of the BIG picture and one of the problems that caused it in the first place. Thanks for the article.

[Demidog]

I think I said it elsewhere that there is an extremely odd trust placed in our public schools. Parents cannot trust the schools to deliver an educated youth. So why trust them with moral teaching of any kind?

Public schools need to be abolished and all funds which are directed to them need to be returned to the people post haste. Now's the time to do it.

[nunya bidness]

You are quite welcome. Hopefully the word will get out that the pledge is the symptom and not the disease.

[Crossbow Eel]

 
 

I did but I guess you have more faith then I do?

[nunya bidness]

I doubt it. My Lord and savior prefers a personal relationship absent government intervention.

Romans 13, notwithstanding.

[homeschool mama]

** Now, as for homeschooling. How far does that go? K-12? If so that is feasable but many parents do not have the education themselves for home schooling much less the time or devotion to do it.**

Homeschooling can be from k-12, yes. The commitment to school one's child at home rather than in a public setting is great. We're finishing our 6th year homeschooling and have no regrets or reservations of continuing on to 7th. There are about 1.7 million homeschoolers in the United States at present. That figure is growing by 10-15% yearly. I would venture to say that the desire and interest to homeschool is obviously growing. These particular parents seek the best for their children. In their case, homeschooling is the best.

HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) has stats on nat'l test scores of homeschoolers compared to their public schooled peers. In addition, there are stats on parents who don't hold a college degree...their children still exceed the nat'l testing by 20-30%. Same goes for those with parents holding advanced degrees.

There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of avenues to use in making the schooling experience enriching and worthwhile. The one on one tutoring alone makes all the difference. More difficult classes can be conducted using cd-rom/video, internet class, coop class, or attending class at the local junior college. Most homeschooled youth become self learners....lifelong learners.

I lead a homeschool support group of 34 families. The education levels of the parents run the course of barely a high school diploma to a PhD. The commitment to their children is the same. Devotion to their children is paramount.

[AnnaZ]

An excellent read on the history of the publik skools. They stink. (Please, I live in the LAUSD. I know stink.)

 

However, the greater danger I see arises from the mandatory detachment/obsolescence of a Higher Being at all levels of public life, in other words a State Religion of Secular Humanism, which will lead to, ultimately, the loss of the Predicate Author/Authority of Liberty.