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Moderate Muslims Under Siege
NYTimes ^ | 7.1.02 | KAHLED ABOU EL FADL

Posted on 07/02/2002 10:58:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy

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"I am terrified of you and all people who look like you,"

Imagine hearing this when you aren't even Muslim!!!!!!

BooHooHoo!!! I'm frigging heartbroken!!

I can't even stand the tone of the moderate muslims!

Well, Mr. Whiny Butt Moderate Muslim, get out of the ivory tower and start organizing and getting rid of the current leadership of American muslims organizations.

Discredit CAIR and the AMC. Debate Ibish and Hooper!!

The same way that gutsy Pakistani, Tashbih Sayyed, conradicted James Zogby on Hardball.

"Yes, It's time for you to stop all of your sobbing"

--Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders!

1 posted on 07/02/2002 10:58:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Speak louder Kahled. We can't hear you.
2 posted on 07/02/2002 11:04:10 AM PDT by dmeara
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When "moderate" American muslims compile and publish lists of the names, addresses, and associates of the "radical" muslims hiding in their midst, I might begin to think about considering the possibility that they are speaking honestly.
3 posted on 07/02/2002 11:08:05 AM PDT by per loin
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Islam in moderation is akin to taking strychnine in moderation. Sooner or later the poison kills you.
4 posted on 07/02/2002 11:11:00 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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Since Sept. 11, moderate American Muslims have been fighting an exceedingly difficult battle on many fronts. They have been struggling to deal with the proponents of a clash of civilizations, who seem intent on transforming Islam into the enemy of the West after Communism; with the fanaticism of some supporters of Israel, who seem to deal with every manifestation of Islamic activism as a direct threat to Israel's existence...

Still in denial mode. Some progress but still mostly "See what you made me do" and "it's the other guy" standard arab lines of argument. If he's a moderate, what is he doing proactively? Barely anything mentioned here. A yawner to make the NY Times reader feel like progress is being made, without giving up their guilty feelings. As always, deflect to Israel.

5 posted on 07/02/2002 11:12:47 AM PDT by Shermy
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I keep waiting for clear-thinking Muslims to start new organizations like "Muslims Against Terror" or "Muslim-American Patriots." I'm still waiting.
6 posted on 07/02/2002 11:17:26 AM PDT by Callahan
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I'm waiting for the moderate Muslims to stop telling us what Islam is all about and start going into the mosques and educating their fellow believers.

Then I'll believe that they're "moderate."

7 posted on 07/02/2002 11:22:31 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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Talk is cheap. What are you doing to purge the savages from your midst, here and world wide? Apparently not much because I haven't heard or seen it. By your docile attitude, you are aiding and abetting. Don't cry to me. As far as I am concerned, you are the enemy.
8 posted on 07/02/2002 11:24:32 AM PDT by paul51
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I spoke to soon. I found a site called IslamForToday.com that denounces terrorism using quotes from the Quoran and has pictures of Muslim-American waving American Flags. I took just a quick look, but I didn't see any pathetic exscuses, or rambling non-denials. These are the people FBI Chief Mueller should be meeting with, not CAIR.
9 posted on 07/02/2002 11:25:44 AM PDT by Callahan
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Bring that Pakistani tennis player to the US and have him speak to mosques etc. Yeah, right, when pigs fly!
10 posted on 07/02/2002 11:25:45 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Tashbih Sayyed was AMAZING!!! Why don't we ever see this incredible man anywhere else?

I couldn't believe my ears when he appeared on Hardball. He suddenly made, not only Zogby, but every "moderate" muslim look like a stooge. Matthews sure gave him the bum's rush, which was a huge disappointment.

11 posted on 07/02/2002 11:25:55 AM PDT by Deb
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http://www.islamicsupremecounc il.org

http://www.secularislam.org
12 posted on 07/02/2002 11:28:08 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Ah, you saw him too. On the run from Pakistan, and in political asylum in the US fearing for his life.

I loved how he just shut Zogby up. All of Zogby's non-denial denials, excuses and justifications for jihad went into the dumpster.

I'll buy that man a beer!
13 posted on 07/02/2002 11:29:46 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Muslims like me are grieving and in utter misery

Y'all can DO something about it. It's right there in your book, what to do. Those other misguided devils, spawns of s****, are doing things; you can, too. Take care of the problem. It is after all, YOUR problem.

15 posted on 07/02/2002 11:39:40 AM PDT by RightWhale
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NOWHERE IS AN OUTCRY FROM THE SO CALLED MUSCUM LEADERSHIP AGAINST TERRORISM!

You'll all get what you deserve.

And see the UN report today, Arab/Islam/Muscum countries are all on the bottom tiers of TRUTH, LIBERTY and even the lowly PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!~}
16 posted on 07/02/2002 11:40:01 AM PDT by funkywbr
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The billion or so "moderate" muslims were not moderate enough pour out into the streets and protest 9/11. In fact, we saw them dancing in the streets. I guess a few were silent. But even they were very likely chuckling in their beards.
17 posted on 07/02/2002 11:40:30 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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I am sure the majority of muslims believe "moderate" islam is the devil.
18 posted on 07/02/2002 11:56:25 AM PDT by rageaholic
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Any more on that guy? How did Matthews snub him?

Since truth is not Matthews aim, but rather pro-wrestling like intellectual entertainment, I wouldn't be surprised if he insulted a man of reason. But that's the general strategy on these "arguing heads" type shows. That, and the moderator asserting his superiority.

I suspect we don't hear more from moderates because they don't get the largesse of Saudi backing, which pays for pricey P.R. firm guidance. The state dept. enabling the radical CAIR doesn't help.

19 posted on 07/02/2002 11:56:36 AM PDT by Shermy
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The best revenge for you moderate Muslims is to live a good life. As long as you keep complaining about everything and blaming everyone else for it, it only makes you more pathetic. How about shutting up and doing some positive things for a change? I'm sure people will appreciate you more like that, instead of starting a new cycle of propaganda. No matter how many words you read, as long as Arab-looking people are not associated with anything positive people will continue to dislike them.

20 posted on 07/02/2002 12:09:18 PM PDT by Un669
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