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HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVISTS AND MEDIA WILL ATTEMPT TO SABOTAGE VATICAN CLEANUP OF US SEMINARIES
LifeSite Daily News ^ | 7/2/02

Posted on 07/03/2002 9:44:15 PM PDT by Polycarp

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US Bishops and the “S” Word
By Mary Jo Anderson
© 2002 MJ Anderson

Some Catholic pundits have begun to talk sotto voce about “after Dallas” as an historic moment in the history of the Catholic Church in the United States. They use the phrase in the same manner that aging liberals use the phrase “after Kent State” or the Reagan Republicans employ “after the fall of the Berlin wall.” What do Kent State and Berlin and Dallas have in common? They are seen as watershed events—a pivot in history that sent developments in an utterly different direction. It is ironic that the poles of Catholic thought in the United States perceive that the Church will head down the same road; dissidents see that road as the path to the future, orthodox Catholics see that road as the path to perdition.

“It is not hysteria on my part to warn that the Church could be lost in the States” one priest wrote in an email. “There are dioceses where there once was a vibrant community, and today there is only secularism—Norway for instance.” “The Church will never recover” claim those Catholic Americans whose faith is like the seed that fell on rocky ground. “Did you listen to the bishops? Not one addressed the real issue of episcopal accountability. Not one offered to resign! There is no faithful leadership in the NCCB,” lament some conservative voices.

Meanwhile across the theological divide their dissident Catholic counterparts are chalking up a victory, “We succeeded in keeping homosexuality out of the document.” Counting eggs before they are hatched these liberals believe they see the AmChurch approaching over the horizon. “The US church will become the church of the laity, now” smirk the dissident Catholics in their Internet chat rooms.

The Village Voice, a pro-gay New York based newspaper summed up their view of the future–church post Dallas with this boast,

…because of this crisis, the stage has been set for the kind of debate about church governance that has not occurred since Vatican II in the early 1960s. This discussion will probably not take place before the election of a new pope, but that will happen sooner than the disappearance of the scandal. The most likely outcome of such a process is a change in the character of the American church. Some power will devolve to local bishops—and even to the laity.

Another infamous dissident, self-professed lesbian Mary Hunt, was also smug, “The bishops have met alone for the last time.” Hunt is the director of a women’s group that openly performs parody masses where women preside as “priests.” Hunt said there will be “..a shift from bishops setting the agenda to the people setting it.” Of course, “the people” Hunt has in mind are not orthodox Catholics.

There were several prelates who stood before their brother bishops in Dallas urging that the crisis could not be solved by a failure to accurately diagnose the injury to the Body. Bishop Bruskewitz has been widely praised for his courageous remarks. Cardinal Bevilacqua stated stance that “homosexuals cannot be admitted to the priesthood.” Cardinal George delivered a serious warning that the Church must find the will to be authentically Catholic in this “Protestantized, secular culture.” Another handful of bishops engaged in behind the scene efforts to persuade the NCCB committee to acknowledge that dissent from Catholic teaching must be addressed—all to no avail. One bishop decried the reality that the wider body of bishops “have no control over the agenda for the Dallas meeting.”

This is evident in the committee’s selection of two prominent liberals to address the this historic gathering, Scott Appleby of University of Notre Dame’s Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism and Peggy Steinfels, editor of the liberal journal, Commonweal. Appleby is the co-author with Mary Jo Weaver of Being Right: Conservative Catholics in America. The book sneers at prominent American orthodox defenders of the faith, such as Professor Ralph McInerny and Professor James Hitchcock. Worse, Appleby and Weaver lump these eminent Catholics with several fringe characters who hide in the hills of Idaho spouting “Catholic” prophecy. Both Appleby and Steinfels call for laicization of the Church. Both are proponents of “shared power” as an ecclessial model.

The average Catholic is confused. The nightly news lists poll numbers showing church attendance and collections are holding steady, while fully 50 % of Catholics have lost faith in their bishops. Individual bishops have delivered comforting and encouraging messages, others are overshadowed by the threats of lawsuits and the selling of assets to pay for the huge judgments. Ninety-six percent of Catholics want the Holy Father to take disciplinary action against bishops who do not remove child abusers from the ministry, according to Zogby International and Le Moyne College in Syracuse, New York.

Serious Catholic thinkers have delivered their reasoned post-Dallas analysis to their respective audiences. H.W. Crocker, III author of the acclaimed one volume history, Triumph: The Power and Glory of the Catholic Church, wrote:

…far from being the authoritarian institution of black legend, the Catholic Church, in America in particular, has tolerated dissent to the point of criminality. When a Catholic priest can publicly embrace the agenda of the North American Man-Boy Love Association, as the now notorious Father Shanley in Boston did, and have his superiors treat this as a tolerable eccentricity, something is seriously wrong. And that wrong will not be righted by the introduction of more liberalism into the Church.

Troubled by what they perceive as the bishops plan to be more liberal—as indicated by the presence of Appleby and Steinfels-- some Catholics have even whispered the “S” word. While schism from the “AmChurch” is not an option, the fact that it is mentioned, even in frustration, is indicative of the magnitude of the crisis in the Church in the United States.

The real frustration is the dawning reality: we must extricate the Church form this sinkhole. That is the most cogent perspective, post Dallas. How can we have any confidence in such a mission?

First, the Catholic population has been aroused. The issues of orthodoxy and liberalism will be openly discussed and studied. It is the time for orthodox Catholic laymen to be very visible --respectfully—but persistently. God raises up His people to do His work. Placid, timid Catholics now know they are in a battle for the life of the Church in this nation—Dallas should be understood as a call to arms! Do the degree that Catholics laity fail to defend authentic Catholic teaching, they are themselves complicit. To the degree that Catholics fail to become involved at the schools, university, parish and diocesan levels, they are equally to blame for the state of the Church in the US in the coming years. That is a sober charge, but it is point made by a great Father of the Church, St. John Chrysostom:

“He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, it fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but even the good to do wrong.”

Secondly, the Vatican will, however slowly and with deliberative care, take a stronger hand behind the scenes. One lesson learned from this crisis may be critical for the next pope. The Vatican II understanding of collegiality is still developing. As the universal Church examines how well national conferences, such as the NCCB/USCC have or have not served their flocks, the hierarchical Church gains a clarified picture of how the Church must proceed.

And last, as the history of the Church amply reveals, we have faced each internal crisis and survived not be cause we are a faithful people but because God is faithful.

A wise priest once advised me, “When to the human heart all seems lost, that is when you understand that hope is a virtue, not just a happy wish.” Hope is a theological virtue, according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1812-1813). The Catechism instructs, “The virtue of hope…inspire[s] men’s activities…” (1818). This is a time of hope, that is, a time of activity on behalf of the hope we have in Jesus, the Bridegroom who did and will defend His Bride, the Holy Catholic Church.

Find out more about this topic in our newest audio series Dissent & Destroy: The Truth Behind the Scandals.


1 posted on 07/03/2002 9:44:15 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Siobhan; JMJ333; Domestic Church; Dumb_Ox; Aquinasfan; maryz; SoothingDave; Aunt Polgara; ...
Continued cover-up of the homopederast crisis in the Church bump
2 posted on 07/03/2002 9:45:52 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform
Ping
3 posted on 07/03/2002 9:49:21 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Polycarp
A "stay after them" bump.
4 posted on 07/03/2002 9:51:55 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Polycarp
Another infamous dissident, self-professed lesbian Mary Hunt, was also smug, “The bishops have met alone for the last time.” Hunt is the director of a women’s group that openly performs parody masses where women preside as “priests.” Hunt said there will be “..a shift from bishops setting the agenda to the people setting it.” Of course, “the people” Hunt has in mind are not orthodox Catholics.

Mary Hunt is a HUGE part of the problem. She is also one of Hillary's best friends.

5 posted on 07/03/2002 9:57:07 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Polycarp
Sam Donaldson and Cokie Roberts shouted George Will down on ABC's "This Week" because he tried to state that the vast majority of priest sexual abusers are homosexuals. NewsMax writer Phil Brennan reported, "After three or four attempts to get a word in edgewise, Will gave up."

Surprise, surprise. Malthusian population control freaks just can't stop covering for sodomy, so it seems.

6 posted on 07/03/2002 9:59:33 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Polycarp
I'm not Catholic and I don't know much about the inner workings of the Vatican, but it sounds to me as if the Catholic Church is on the verge of imploding. Or, there will be a clean sweep of conservatives out of the Catholic Church.

Is there a chance of a closeted homosexual priest taking the current Pope's place after his death? Imagine the implications if that occurred.

7 posted on 07/03/2002 10:17:10 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: All
bttt.
8 posted on 07/03/2002 10:21:17 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Paul Atreides
Hard to say how widespread the "Lavender mafia" has managed to sink its fangs into Christendom.

This has been going on, as a matter of concern for conservatives, since about the late '70s. Catholics in America are roughly divided into conservative and more liberal factions. As with the rest of the culture war in U.S. society, it's a battle royal, that's for sure. Most Catholics I know deplore the homosexualization which has gone on in various parts of the Church. There will have to be a serious crackdown or the institution will be marginalized. The bishops must decide where they stand.

9 posted on 07/03/2002 10:25:06 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Polycarp
Father John Trigilio of the Harrisburg diocese said to Rose that the totalitarian gay subculture in the seminaries, which includes the faculties, made his 12 years in the schools something out of Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago."
I have a hard time believing this.

What I don't have trouble believing:
The next battle in this war for freedom against the gay-media axis is again in the Catholic Church.

GLAD is fascism. They work to destroy.
10 posted on 07/03/2002 10:28:56 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Polycarp
"...The piece quoted a homosexual priest saying, "We're all sort of like Anne Frank's family, up in the attic, waiting for the Nazis to come."..."

Sigh...

If only this were actually true.

11 posted on 07/04/2002 3:10:02 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: Polycarp
The Lavender Mafia sabotaged the Pope's order for an investigation back years ago. Of course they're going to sabotage any real changes this time as well. It's now up to the Catholics in the pews. Pope John Paul, bless him, is too ill to deal with this aggressively. The homosexual child-predators are problems throughout the church world-wide.
12 posted on 07/04/2002 3:11:52 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Polycarp
president of Family Legal Services, Bane is a radical

Of course she's a radical. Anyone associated with these sodomite groups are radical. Their message is a radical departure from natural law. That, in and of itself, makes them radical in the truest sense of the word.

13 posted on 07/04/2002 3:26:13 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Polycarp; Siobhan; maryz; american colleen; eastsider; *Catholic_list
BUMP CITY!
14 posted on 07/04/2002 3:27:47 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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The ability of the church to spin this as a media problem is amazing....and a bit scary.

The true soul of the problem lies in the heart of the church,,,,its blind eyes and concealed & protected criminals.

why anyone would donate to this corrupt bunch is astonishing. It amounts to nothing more than the defense fund for clinton....wealthy people or those without common sense paying off criminal activity.......and some wonder why i dont practice anymore

15 posted on 07/04/2002 3:35:31 AM PDT by Kakaze
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To: Polycarp
three-fourths of the media...are homosexuals

Almost got it but not quite. The majority of homosexuals do not support "inter-generational" sex as best I can determine.

It appears that within that community is a militant sub-group that activity supports such practices and wants them to continue in all institutions, including the Catholic church.

One can only conclude that it is this radical sub-group that is dominating the media.

I wouldn't let any major media editor, publisher, or talking head near small or teen-age boys.

In this case they must be judged guilty until proven otherwise, because a failure to aggressively pursue the roots of the Church's problems is aiding and abetting the child abusers and assuring that "inter-generational" sex will remain a prominent part of a future church.
16 posted on 07/04/2002 3:38:41 AM PDT by cgbg
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To: Kakaze
The true soul of the problem lies in the heart of the church

I agree with that. However, the rest of your statement seems a bit reactionary. I look at the financial disclosures of our church and the bulk of my tithe stays here locally for our ministries and facilities.

That being said, what we need now is a group of strong conservative clergy to take the lead in this process of "cleaning" out the church of deviants. The other moderates and even the few liberal clergy among them will not have the backbone to get the job done.

FReegards
Pete

17 posted on 07/04/2002 3:50:24 AM PDT by peteram
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To: Polycarp
Action item: buy a copy of Michael Rose's "Goodbye, Good Men".
18 posted on 07/04/2002 3:54:24 AM PDT by Russ7
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To: scripter
Bump for later...
19 posted on 07/04/2002 9:29:10 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Polycarp
bttt
20 posted on 07/04/2002 9:30:46 AM PDT by Don Myers
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