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El Al Pilot Reported Missile Explosion Next to Plane
Arutz Sheva ^ | July 5th, 2002 | IsraelNN.com

Posted on 07/04/2002 9:59:43 PM PDT by freeasinbeer

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61 posted on 07/05/2002 11:21:50 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: LarryLied
I don't believe there are any American illegal arms dealers/money launders in the Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich/Arkadi Gaydamak/Col. Yair Klein/Leonid Minin/Grigori Loutchansky class.

What makes you think the Ollie Norths, Barry Seals, and CIA are out of business?

62 posted on 07/05/2002 11:43:12 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Cachelot; Aleksandar Vojvoda; Amelia; Rodney King; mv1; Northpaw; DBtoo; JMJ333; Phil V.; ...
Of course I mean US "hate crime" legislation,it seems as if you would welcome it
You think? Without even bothering to make a decision as to wether it would be good or bad, I can tell you that it is coming, both in EU and the US. And that it is brought in by people like you and LarryLied.

We've seen it all now.

An advocate for "Hate Crime" laws on Free Republic. Or, more correctly, someone who defers judgement on "Hate Crime " laws but warns us that if we don't shut up, they are coming.

What is next? Universal Health Care?

63 posted on 07/05/2002 11:53:59 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Wm Bach
What makes you think the Ollie Norths, Barry Seals, and CIA are out of business?

Sorry to see Ollie retired and I'm glad the CIA finally was set loose to do what needs to be done.

Why do you equate the activity of the CIA and Ollie North under Ronald Reagan to the illegal arms dealings of Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich?

You think they are comparable?

64 posted on 07/05/2002 11:57:34 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
What is next? Universal Health Care?

For you and the nazi contingent? Probably just straitjackets. You'll go crazy scrabbling for Joos in the nooks and crannies of your demented little skull, Mr. Lied.

65 posted on 07/05/2002 12:02:15 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Ah. You are NOT a Serbian Muslim? You were just lying a bit when you said that? Or are you lying now? Or are you just a little confused?

Why don't you retrieve my exact quote,instead of just repeating heresay?
66 posted on 07/05/2002 12:26:44 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: Cachelot
And that it is brought in by people like you and LarryLied. You get what you ask for :)).

Can you just give me one example of my alleged "hate speech",or do you just hate the truth?
67 posted on 07/05/2002 12:28:06 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: Aleksandar Vojvoda
Why don't you retrieve my exact quote,instead of just repeating heresay?

Because it was me you said it to, you vacuum-brained "serbian muslim" jihadist sc*mbag you :).

Of course, anyone can find it easily enough by doing a find in forum on you, or looking at your own post being quoted on FR at least twenty times :).

The only ones blind to your little game seems to be the moderators.

68 posted on 07/05/2002 12:40:36 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Of course, anyone can find it easily enough by doing a find in forum on you, or looking at your own post being quoted on FR at least twenty times :). The only ones blind to your little game seems to be the moderators.

If it's so easy to find,then you should have no problem producing it,right?
69 posted on 07/05/2002 12:42:07 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: BlackVeil
I have always been exceedingly suspicious about that "accident" where a missile, said to be off-course, hit an El Al plane over Russia.

Was that an El Al plane? I thought it was Bulgarian.

70 posted on 07/05/2002 12:47:37 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: LarryLied
Why do you equate the activity of the CIA and Ollie North under Ronald Reagan to the illegal arms dealings of Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich?

Because you used their legality as a qualifier, and because I delight in helping readers see the an anti Israel obsession with which you are so burdened.

You think they are comparable?

Yes, they both broke the law. Serious law. Not merely comparing jaywalking with armed robbery. Exchanging cocaine for guns is a serious effing crime. What's the matter, you can't obey the law?

71 posted on 07/05/2002 1:02:26 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Cachelot
Actually, the moderators ban those who speak out against Israel much more than they do anyone else, except perhaps outspoken atheists. However, if there is no dissent in regard to your issue FR will be a boring place as everyone would be patting each other on the back. I'd much rather engage in butting heads. If you have truth on your side dissent shouldn't bother you. cheers.
72 posted on 07/05/2002 1:06:23 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
If you have truth on your side dissent shouldn't bother you

Nah, I don't mind dissent, at least as long as I can flame you if your dissent is too dumb or too close to aid and comfort to the enemy :).

However, Mr. Lied is so dripping of the JewWatch kind of dementia that he sort of makes the whole FreeRepublic shine a sickly green. That I DO mind.

73 posted on 07/05/2002 1:26:26 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Aleksandar Vojvoda
If it's so easy to find,then you should have no problem producing it,right?

Probably not, if it wasn't for the fact that you still haven't answered my questions in any way, shape or form. So you see, numbskull, I have no reason to communicate any further with you, you being either a muslim or a liar (or both).

Now, if you don't mind, please b*gger off to "Serbian Underground Cafe", where you usually hang out. Is it a Serbian branch of Democratic Underground? Not that it matters much, the jihad-critters seem thick on the ground in both places :)).

74 posted on 07/05/2002 1:33:55 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Wm Bach
Yes, they both broke the law. Serious law. Not merely comparing jaywalking with armed robbery

Ok.I get you. Ronald Reagan policy to defeat communists in Central America was just as bad as Col. Yair Klein's activities in Sierra Leone, Leonid Minin's in Liberia,Arkadi Gaydamak's in Angola, Semyon Yukovich Mogilevich's oil/money laundering deals with Saddam Hussein and the Beit Alfa Trailer Company's sale of military equipment to Mugabe.

But even if I agree with that, which I don't, your argument still loses on "fallacy of tu quoque" grounds. Even given that what Reagan did was illegal, immoral or whatever, that does not excuse what Israel and Israelis have done.

75 posted on 07/05/2002 1:53:54 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Cachelot
Is it a Serbian branch of Democratic Underground?

Judging by your advocacy for "hate speech" laws maybe you are a candidate for a Democrat forum.
76 posted on 07/05/2002 1:54:07 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: Cachelot
Probably not, if it wasn't for the fact that you still haven't answered my questions in any way, shape or form. So you see, numbskull, I have no reason to communicate any further with you, you being either a muslim or a liar (or both).

The fact of the matter is that you are acting more in line of what you are accusing me of being ("numbskull","liar"). The reason for your irrational behavior is that you have no direct quote of mine that claims "hate speech", admitting being a Muslim,Serb,KLA,UCK,or any of the other diatribe,slur,or innuendo that you have directed towards me.Therefore,I can't possibly be a "liar",as you claim.
77 posted on 07/05/2002 1:58:08 PM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: Cachelot
Not that it matters much, the jihad-critters seem thick on the ground in both places :)).

I read these threads quite a bit and have dissented with both sides from time to time. Larry's views can be summed up by the following:

American taxpayers foot the bill for support of Israel
Israel has been caught spying on America.
Israel routinely sells technology and sophisticated weaponry to enemies of America.
Israel has refused extradition of criminals to America
Our blind support of Israel has strained relations with other nations and was probably the reason the Taliban attacked the Trade Center
Israelis are involved in numerous international criminal activities that affect Americans

One can disagree with them all one wants, but they do not constitute a promotion if Jihad in my opinion.

For instance, I disagree with his view that our support of Israel is the probable reason for the WTC attacks. I think if Israel weren't around they would still have attacked us.

I have my asbestos on if you feel the need to flame me for what you consider a dumb reply.

78 posted on 07/05/2002 2:00:13 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
You hit most of my points but while our support of Israel figures into the Al Qaeda attack on us, it is not the only reason and is not a reason to dump Israel. Just the opposite. We can't reward terrorists.

What caused me to look into what Israel does were the attempts to shut down all debate on these issues by slandering those who didn't adhere to one particular line. It makes perfect sense to wonder, as I did earlier, if the largest illegal arms merchants in the world were involved in a missile attack on an aircraft. Some would like their names not be discussed because they are Israeli citizens. I don't recall freepers ever giving anyone a pass like that.

79 posted on 07/05/2002 2:12:13 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Even given that what Reagan did was illegal, immoral or whatever, that does not excuse what Israel and Israelis have done.

But I don't CARE what the Israelis have done. And neither do most non-commuinists, for the simple reason that they are on the forefront in fighting the West's mortal enemy - namely islam.

A Judeo-Christian friendly, western style Israel is simply more worthy of existence than all fundy islamic nations combined. And that does buy a lot of forgiveness for whatever transgressions she may have committed.

80 posted on 07/05/2002 2:12:41 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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