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Cops Search LAX Gunman's Apartment
Associated Press ^ | Fri Jul 5, 8:41 AM ET | RYAN PEARSON

Posted on 07/05/2002 7:19:29 AM PDT by anymouse

Police looking for possible links to terrorism searched the apartment of an Egyptian who opened fire at Los Angeles' airport, killing two people at Israel's El Al ticket counter before being shot to death by a guard.

The shootout came on the Fourth of July, when the possibility of terror attacks had put security on high alert around the country. The FBI, however, was withholding judgment on whether to label the attack as terrorism.

"We've never said it's not terrorism," FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin said. "We can't rule that out, but there's nothing to indicate terrorism at this point."

McLaughlin also suggested it might be a hate crime.

Israeli officials said they would consider the shooting a terror attack until proven otherwise.

The shooter was identified as Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old limousine driver who listed July 4 as his birthday on one of two driver's licenses. He opened fire in Los Angeles International Airport and was shot dead by an El Al guard.

Travelers dove to the ground or scattered for cover when gunfire erupted at the El Al counter. Ticket agent Victoria Hen, 25, and Yaakov Aminov, 46, a jeweler and father of eight who was dropping off a friend, were fatally shot before two El Al guards overwhelmed Hadayet.

The guards and a woman were wounded; another woman suffered heart problems.

The FBI released the gunman's name late Thursday as police in suburban Irvine, 35 miles southeast of the airport, searched his apartment. Police Lt. Sam Allevato said they were looking for his wife and two sons. Neighbors said they went to Egypt for the summer.

Federal agents later arrived with a search warrant to examine the apartment, from which Hadayet ran his livery service, Five Star Limo. They carried away a computer, books, binders, and boxes and bags of material.

Neighbors said Hadayet was quiet but became incensed when an upstairs neighbor hung large American and Marine Corps flags from a balcony above his front door after Sept. 11. The flags remained there Thursday night.

That neighbor declined to talk to reporters, but another neighbor, Steve Thompson, said Hadayet "complained about it to the apartment manager. He thought it was being thrown in his face."

Hadayet, who also went by the last name Ali, had California driver's licenses listing two different birth dates — April 7, 1961, and July 4, 1961 — according to the FBI.

The FBI also released a photograph of Hadayet that was taken for gun registrations.

The gunman carried a .45-caliber semiautomatic Glock pistol, a 9 mm handgun and a 6-inch knife, but had no identification, said Ron Iden, assistant director of the Los Angeles FBI office.

"He had extra ammunition and magazines ready to go," McLaughlin said.

Dr. David Parkus heard five or six shots and turned from the Singapore Airlines counter to see the gunman wrestling with a guard. A second guard charged and shot the gunman, Parkus said. As the gunman collapsed, Parkus said, he saw a hunting knife fall to the floor.

One guard was hit on the forehead with the butt of the gun and cut on the right arm, and the second guard was cut on the lower back, stabbed on the left thigh, and had a superficial gunshot wound to his right thigh, said Parkus, a trauma surgeon from Texas.

Parkus said he helped hold the gunman as he died, then performed CPR on two victims.

Thousands of people evacuated the international terminal and waited for hours to resume their travels. Thirty-five flights were delayed, affecting 10,500 passengers, during one of the airport's busiest travel periods, officials said.

Hadayet's car was found in a nearby parking structure, triggering an evacuation there until a bomb squad found nothing unusual in the black Mercedes.

Hakin Hasidh, 43, of Dusseldorf, Germany, said he was standing in the line next to the El Al counter. He heard two shots, turned and saw the gunman firing.

"The first couple of shots, everybody just stood there, frozen like I was," Hasidh said. "It's really hard to tell whether he was aiming at the counter, at people behind the counter or at people in line."

A source close to Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Peres' granddaughter was in a different part of the terminal at the time of the attack.

The attack came just days after announcement of a $9.6 billion airport redesign proposal that would require everyone coming to the airport to go through screening at a remote site before boarding trains to the terminals.

Last year, an Algerian trained in terrorist camps financed by Osama bin Laden was convicted of plotting to blow up Los Angeles International at the height of the millennium holiday travel period. Ahmed Ressam was arrested in Washington state on Dec. 14, 1999, while entering the country from Canada in a car with a trunk full of explosives.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; egypt; elal; hadayet; israel; lax; laxshooter; losangles
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Police Lt. Sam Allevato said they were looking for his wife and two sons. Neighbors said they went to Egypt for the summer.

"He had extra ammunition and magazines ready to go," McLaughlin said.

A source close to Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Peres' granddaughter was in a different part of the terminal at the time of the attack.

Perp must have been an al Queda sleeper agent, possibly sent to take out Peres' granddaughter.

This guy was way to methodical and cool to be a wacked out limo driver. I bet they find some interesting stuff on his computer and e-mail account.

1 posted on 07/05/2002 7:19:29 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse
He had a photo taken for gun registration? You can do that if you are a non-citizen with a green card?

We know he had documents with two different birth dates on them. I wonder what else he had?

2 posted on 07/05/2002 7:26:46 AM PDT by MikeJ
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To: anymouse
But I read on Drudge it was simply an argument over being given a hard time about passport documents. I mean, we all go to the airport to get on a plane with a loaded weapon, right? Sheeple get ready to be dipped.
3 posted on 07/05/2002 7:27:24 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: anymouse
"Matt McLaughlin said. 'We can't rule that out, but there's nothing to indicate terrorism at this point.' "McLaughlin also suggested it might be a hate crime."

Distinction without a difference. C'mon guys you look foolish.

4 posted on 07/05/2002 7:28:11 AM PDT by NetValue
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To: kinghorse
Seems Matt must be asleep this morning. The news that he was an Egyptian national was only discovered early this morning when the found his car.
5 posted on 07/05/2002 7:32:25 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: jdogbearhunter; da_toolman
Ping.
6 posted on 07/05/2002 7:32:26 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: anymouse
Earlier reports said this guy was 51 years old but this article gives his age as 41.

One report on Fox last night indicated that explosive-sniffing dogs alerted on both his car and place of residence - no subsequent news on this subject to my knowledge.

Wonder if his family took all their clothes when they left for Egypt?
7 posted on 07/05/2002 7:32:52 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: anymouse
I guess they're looking for the handwritten note from Bin Laden telling him to go out and commit this act. Without it, it's just another hate crime of an ordinary Egyptian not planning to fly anywhere, but who just decided to go to the airport to pick a fight with an El Al counter agent.
8 posted on 07/05/2002 7:33:07 AM PDT by ctonious
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To: anymouse
Police Lt. Sam Allevato said they were looking for his wife and two sons. Neighbors said they went to Egypt for the summer.

Seems the terrorist had been planning this terrorist act for quite some time and got his family out of the country. Wonder if the FBI is going to visit the local mosque? Or may we just classify this as a hate crime so as not to offend the jihadist at the local mosque.

9 posted on 07/05/2002 7:33:11 AM PDT by healey22
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To: anymouse
McLaughlin also suggested it might be a hate crime.

Aren't all terrorist attacks a "hate crime" (boy do I hate that term)?

10 posted on 07/05/2002 7:35:02 AM PDT by kidd
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To: anymouse
Neighbors said Hadayet was quiet but became incensed when an upstairs neighbor hung large American and Marine Corps flags from a balcony above his front door after Sept. 11. The flags remained there Thursday night. That neighbor declined to talk to reporters, but another neighbor, Steve Thompson, said Hadayet "complained about it to the apartment manager. He thought it was being thrown in his face."

Here we go, how long until we hear about how he was driven to it due to anti-muslim sentiment.
11 posted on 07/05/2002 7:35:46 AM PDT by ewm138
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To: anymouse
Hadayet's car was found in a nearby parking structure, triggering an evacuation there until a bomb squad found nothing unusual in the black Mercedes.

A limo driver living in an apartment drives a Mercedes? All things are possible, but how odd.

12 posted on 07/05/2002 7:41:28 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: anymouse
This guy was way to methodical and cool to be a wacked out limo driver.

Why do you say he was "methodical and cool?" A report I read yesterday said he was having a heated argument with either the ticket agent or someone on the ticket counter line just before shots were fired. That's hardly something a "cool" professional would do. Also, a sleeper agent on assignment in the US would not make it known to his neighbors that the display of an American flag irritated him.

The more I hear about him, the more I think he was simply a nutcase, albeit perhaps one with strong pro-Arab views.

13 posted on 07/05/2002 7:45:57 AM PDT by beckett
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To: mombonn
You noticed that little odd item as well.Wonder if the car was hot??And he had two licences?
14 posted on 07/05/2002 7:50:28 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: anymouse

FBI agents carry items seized during a search of the home of Hesham Mohamed Hadayet on Friday, July 5, 2002, in Irvine, Calif. Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian limousine driver who listed July 4 as his birthday on one of two driver's licenses, was identified as the shooter who opened fire at Los Angeles' airport Thursday, killing two people at Israel's El Al ticket counter before being shot to death by a guard. (AP Photo/Nick Ut)

15 posted on 07/05/2002 7:51:12 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MikeJ
"We can't rule that out, but there's nothing to indicate terrorism at this point."
What we need here is a definition of the word "terrorism" so that we, the people, and our government agencies understand each other. McLaughlin also suggested it might be a hate crime.
--playing with words
Israeli officials said they would consider the shooting a terror attack until proven otherwise
Israeli officials tell it like it is. None of that meaningless PC crappola. El Al takes care of business, and they do it short and sweet.
Hadayet "complained about it to the apartment manager. He thought it [the flags] was being thrown in his face."
So, let him move his whiney self back to Egypt and be a chauffeur there.
Parkus said he helped hold the gunman as he died, then performed CPR on two victims.
This means Parkus didn't waste any effort on the shooter? Excellent. He may have spared us a long drawn out insanity defense. Thanks, Parkus.
16 posted on 07/05/2002 7:51:25 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: MikeJ

"We've never said it's not terrorism," FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin said.


17 posted on 07/05/2002 7:52:35 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
"We've never said it's not terrorism," FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin said.

Finger stuck bravely in the wind.

18 posted on 07/05/2002 7:54:30 AM PDT by ctonious
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To: anymouse
This guy was way to methodical and cool to be a wacked out limo driver(sic)
In what way was this guy "methodical"? He loaded up with two guns and a knife. Using a knife doesn't seem methodical to me. If he were methodical, he would have skipped the arguement and gotten straight to the shooting. By arguing before shooting, it seems to me that he drew unnecessary and undesirable attention to himself, thereby partially depriving himself of the weapon of complete surprise. This guy wasn't methodical and he wasn't cool.
19 posted on 07/05/2002 7:59:32 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: anymouse
Gosh, wonder why he didn't just do something at John Wayne Airport...it's certainly closer but I guess since 40% guns, et al, manage to get through the screeners at LAX it's a better spot...oh and then the Israeli airline probably doesn't fly out of John Wayne...A little too close for comfort in Orange County! Have taken literally hundreds of cabs from John Wayne and any one of them could have been this guy...no profiling intended of course! Yes, I also wonder if the wife and kids took their duds to Egypt...hum?
20 posted on 07/05/2002 8:03:04 AM PDT by TatieBug
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To: anymouse
"We can't rule that out, but there's nothing to indicate terrorism at this point."

A guy walks into an airport and fires a weapon killing two people I would say that he is a terrorist? You don't have to have a Hamas or Al-Queda membership card to be a terrorist folks.

21 posted on 07/05/2002 8:05:46 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: anymouse
>The gunman carried a .45-caliber semiautomatic Glock pistol, a 9 mm handgun and a 6-inch knife, but had no identification, said Ron Iden, assistant director of the Los Angeles FBI office.

Imagine the nerve of this guy. Tries to kill a bunch of people and has NO ID.

22 posted on 07/05/2002 8:09:05 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Ben Hecks
A rule of thrumb " BE VERY AWARE when a Muslim's family gets sent home for an extended "vacation" and the patriarch stays behind. HUGE red flag.
23 posted on 07/05/2002 8:27:53 AM PDT by L`enn
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To: anymouse
As to the two driver's licenses. July 4 == 7/4 the way we write it

April 7 == 7/4 the way Europeans write it!

Maybe coincidence, maybe misinterpretation by those looking at one or the other.

24 posted on 07/05/2002 8:32:48 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: anniegetyourgun
FBI agents remove items seized during a search of the home of alleged airport gunman Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, Friday, July 5, in Irvine, Calif. Hadayet, 41, who also went by the last name Ali, was shot dead by an airline security guard at Los Angeles International Airport, Thursday, July 4, 2002, after he opened fire at an El Al airline ticket counter, killing two people and injuring four. (AP Photo/Nick Ut)


25 posted on 07/05/2002 8:34:20 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: mombonn
A limo driver living in an apartment drives a Mercedes? All things are possible, but how odd.

A shining example of "the new economy" ---
a valuable, entrepreneurial addition to the service sector...
performing a task that "Americans don't want".
</sarcasm>

26 posted on 07/05/2002 8:35:56 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Channel surfing, msnbc says statement from White House (Ari) stating no reason to believe shooting at LAX was terrorist related, looks like lone gunman.

My word, how stoopid do these people think we are? (head down, shaking in disbelief)

27 posted on 07/05/2002 8:40:51 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: BohDaThone
Good observation.
28 posted on 07/05/2002 8:46:10 AM PDT by Gaston
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To: mombonn
A limo driver living in an apartment drives a Mercedes?

Knowing the model year might help.

30 posted on 07/05/2002 8:54:48 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: anymouse
Hakin Hasidh, 43, of Dusseldorf, Germany, said he was standing in the line next to the El Al counter. He heard two shots, turned and saw the gunman firing.

"The first couple of shots, everybody just stood there, frozen like I was," Hasidh said. "It's really hard to tell whether he was aiming at the counter, at people behind the counter or at people in line."

A source close to Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Peres' granddaughter was in a different part of the terminal at the time of the attack.

Should be pretty easy for a limousine driver to get access to secure areas at LAX. Logical job for a sleeper. I wonder if he had gotten orders to go after Peres's granddaughter. If so, I wonder how the orders would have been communicated.

I also wonder if it's just a coincidence that a 43-year-old Arab man living in Germany just happened to be standing nearby.

31 posted on 07/05/2002 8:56:11 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: anymouse
how the F one 'profiler's dream' have 2 (VALID)CALIFORNIA DRIVERS LICENSES SIMULTANEOUSLY?! G0D HELP US...
32 posted on 07/05/2002 8:56:48 AM PDT by 1234
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To: kidd
Aren't all terrorist attacks a "hate crime" (boy do I hate that term)?

I'm with you on this. But can we go a little further and ask, Aren't all crimes hate crimes?

33 posted on 07/05/2002 9:08:38 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: TheOtherOne
FBI agents remove items seized during a search of the home of alleged airport gunman Hesham Mohamed Hadayet

I wonder if one of those Centurions found a wooden stirring spoon.

34 posted on 07/05/2002 9:08:41 AM PDT by ctonious
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To: mombonn
another story I read said the authorities were searching a Toyota Camry. Perhaps he had two cars?
35 posted on 07/05/2002 9:12:22 AM PDT by The Energizer
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To: BohDaThone
From antother story. Mahfouz said that July 4 was Hadayet's birthday and that Hadayet had called his father on Thursday as he knew his father would want to wish him happy birthday. Mahfouz is a brother in law living in Egypt.
36 posted on 07/05/2002 9:13:24 AM PDT by Gaston
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To: The Energizer
another story I read said the authorities were searching a Toyota Camry. Perhaps he had two cars?

Judging from the incident in which the FBI stopped the wrong car and shot a Boy Scout in the face, more likely they can't tell a Camry from a Mercedes.

37 posted on 07/05/2002 9:15:48 AM PDT by ctonious
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To: 1234
Are a regular driver's license and a chauffeur's license two different licenses? I do not drive, so I'm not sure if they are. He had a limo service, so he would need both, I would assume.

g

38 posted on 07/05/2002 9:28:22 AM PDT by Geezerette
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To: beckett
First rule of war is that the first reports of an attack are always wrong. Subsequent quotes from eye witnesses say the guy walked right up to the counter and started blasting point blank at the counter agent and then to the people waiting in line. He wasn't waving the guns around threatening people, he just calmly aimed and fired off single rounds into the people around him that looked jewish.

If not for the quick reactions of the El Al security and some civilian heros that tackled this well armed man, he would have kept reloading and firing until his ammo was gone.

This guy was a professional killer, but not an assassin. An assassin would have double tapped his victims.

The Egyptian's have already nabbed his family and they are probably in for some not so pleasant interrogations. Let's hope they get some facts before they get some torture induced phoney confessions. :(
39 posted on 07/05/2002 9:38:14 AM PDT by anymouse
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had California driver's licenses listing two different birth dates — April 7, 1961, and July 4, 1961 — according to the FBI.
Same date in different formats: 4-7-1961 and 7-4-1961. Egypt probably uses dd-mm-yyyy date format.
40 posted on 07/05/2002 9:44:36 AM PDT by Quicksilver
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To: Quicksilver
GUNMAN DESCRIBED AS QUIET.

I want this comment striken from every news article here on out. Why must they put this in? Is it to somehow blame society for his "falling down" episode? NOTE TO NEWS MEDIA: ALL THESE ARAB TERRORISTS ARE GOING TO BE MOUSEY QUIET IN THE USA. STOP TELLING US IT WAS A SHY QUIET MAN. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE MOSQUE TO WITNESS HIS DEMEANOR WHEN RECITING ALL THE EVILS THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS HAVE BROUGHT UPON HIS RACE AND RELIGION? QUIET=DETERMINED. QUIET=DANGEROUS.

My neighbor is Egyptian and he is about as assuming as a church mouse or a chihuahua. Do I trust him? As far as I can throw him.

41 posted on 07/05/2002 9:48:45 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: anymouse
Five Star Limo
42 posted on 07/05/2002 9:54:43 AM PDT by robomurph
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To: robomurph
Islamic Center of Irvine
43 posted on 07/05/2002 10:08:06 AM PDT by robomurph
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To: ctonious
Just another isolated incident, folks. Now go be good consumers and buy a new couch or refrigerator. Nothing to see here, move along now...
44 posted on 07/05/2002 10:11:15 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: robomurph

Nice shooting, Murph.

45 posted on 07/05/2002 10:11:20 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse; Travis McGee
If not for the quick reactions of the El Al security and some civilian heros that tackled this well armed man, he would have kept reloading and firing until his ammo was gone.........

Do other airlines at LAX have armed security guards? If not, will they be able to after this?
46 posted on 07/05/2002 10:15:42 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: snippy_about_it
My word, how stoopid do these people think we are? (head down, shaking in disbelief)

I agree, but it makes them look stupid to the entire world. If only one plane had crashed into the World Trade centre, would they still be telling us it was a tragic accident? Probably.

It seems the survial of big business comes way way before the man on the street and if they really want to turn the people against the government, they should carry on doin what they are doin and we will continue to get the results we have been gettin.

"Power to the People"

47 posted on 07/05/2002 10:16:17 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: MikeJ
The FBI also released a photograph of Hadayet that was taken for gun registrations.

I was curious about this point too. In CA, much to State Sen. Jack Scott's dismay, we don't photograph gun buyers. I wonder if he had a "gun card" to work as a cesurity guard.

(On a side note: Jack Scott's solution to the problem of crazed Egyptian gunman is to disarm as many Americans as possible. Of course, at this point, I'm just making a joke. But give Scott enough time, and this will turn from a joke into a scoop!)

48 posted on 07/05/2002 10:22:23 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: anymouse
The absolute certitude with which you describe an event at which you were not present undermines your credibility. Please tell us, who refuted the several eyewitnesses who said the shooter was arguing just before shots were fired?

Also, you passed over my observation that "professional sleeper agent" would never let his neighbors know that the display of an American flag irritated him.

The evidence is clearly trending towards this guy being a simple nutcase with Arab sympathies. If you think it helps to war effort to make him out to be an al-Qaeda heavyweight, you are sorely mistaken. On the contrary, making him out to be what he is not only helps the enemy spread confusion and fear.

49 posted on 07/05/2002 10:23:52 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Freee-dame
Elal security took care of the problem immediately. I wish we would do the same. Saw reporter interviewing a security guard on tv yesterday. Question to guard,"what did you do when the shooting began?" Answer, "we ran outside" Now don't you feel safe?
50 posted on 07/05/2002 10:40:38 AM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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