Posted on 07/05/2002 12:22:23 PM PDT by bloggerjohn
Yes, but if the govt tells them to leave, then their pretense for the police state leaves with them. "Fighting terrorism" is merely the latest excuse for increased surveillance and control of the American people.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
(No longer relevant - see: Deconstructing the Second Amendment
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
(No longer relevant - see: War on the Constitution
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
(No longer relevant - see: Seizure Fever: The War on Property Rights
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
(No longer relevant - see: Is This man's case worth suspending the United States Constitution?
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
I'm curious...what religion is that? And is there a god of freedom and self-reliance?
How arrogant we are to think that we can stop something that most of us are afraid to admit exists.
Politicians are over rated car salespersons. They won't admit to any agenda let alone commit to solving the related problems, such as losing our basic human Rights.
Too many people want to keep it simple and stick to one topic, while the other hundred topics consume any life they believe they have.
The only way out of this is to :
1. Put God back above man.
2. Hold our politicians to Gods' Laws, no exceptions whether it's foreign or domestic affairs.
3. Begin dismanteling man's corrupt laws.
4. Eliminate America's State churches State churches
5. End government control of our educations.
6. Get America out of the UN and the UN out of America.
Reagan was reputed to have been informed by David Rockefeller that he'd not see the inside of the WH if he didn't go along with GHWB as his VP.
He has to be, otherwise he would have to face the fact that he is wasting his time as a congressman. I, being the pessimist (or realist, depending on how you look at it) I am, think there isn't anything that'll stop what is coming.
Tuor
Give me liberty or give me death.
lol! what happened to "normal?" ;)
That certainly is true. There is a town here in NC (filled by yankees but don't get me started) that have a town law on bicycle helmets that is so strict a couple of years ago the police were handing out tickets to parents even if their children were riding without a helmet in their own yard. And fireworks? Until a couple of years ago fireworks were completely banned in this state. But growing up about a mile from the border, as long as you bought a gross of bottlerockets (about 5 bucks) for the sheriff or county deputy that might catch you for his children, they just didn't care. We had roman candle fights growing up and carried .22s on the back of our motorcycles half the summer when we went hunting in the woods. But today? You try any of that today and you'd be lucky to ever see your child again
This nation is moving closer and closer to the point where safety is more important than freedom. I just finished having my engine rebuilt in my car. Right before the project started, I had to take it to the dealership for an roadside breakdown. The service manager all but chewed me out for wanting to change the 'factory' settings and said it wouldn't pass the emission testing if I were to proceed. Well I did it and it still passes. Just irked me that I apparently don't know better about what I can or can not do with my property than the authorities
Perhaps sooner.
Nah, still happens in the country.
Baal was the god of Israel's early enemies, it was a materialistic god, a gold covered idol. As I was using the term, I meant to infer that Bush is an unsubstantial god to follow, since he often offers unsubstantial political tripe (compassionate conservatism) as a vote getter rather than taking the high road.
As far as there being a God of freedom and self reliance, I think most major religions require their followers to exercise their independence by doing the right thing.
Probably.
That's right.
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