Clemson grad pleads guilty to mailing 'filthy' panties

Greenville News ^ | 7/6/02 | Anna Simon

[PJeffQ]

ANDERSON -- A recent Clemson University graduate pleaded guilty Friday in federal court to using the U.S. Postal Service to mail "indecent and filthy things" that she sold through her Internet Web site.

Christine A. Vetter, who graduated in May, will be sentenced after a presentence report is completed. The maximum sentence she could face is a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in jail and two to three years of supervised release, U.S. District Judge G. Ross Anderson Jr. said.

[areafiftyone]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWW

[TADSLOS]

Well, I have to say that it's a unique way to pay off those student loans.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Postal investigators learned of Vetter's enterprise because of a disgruntled customer who had bought panties

Oh goody! Mail's here! < riiiiiiiiipppppp > < sniiiiiiiifffffffffff > Hey! What the? These aren't soiled!

[parsifal]

You got it backwards. They were probably TOO messed up for Hillary to donate for the tax writeoff. That's what got the gal busted. parsy.

[ditto h]

Man, a bottle of Tide goes a long way in her house.

[WKB]

No pictures?

[mountaineer]

Please add a "massive, retching wave of nausea" alert to this post! Yeccchhh.

[concerned about politics]

Postal investigators learned of Vetter's enterprise because of a disgruntled customer who had bought panties, McDonald said.

The guy actually complained to athorities because there wasn't enough scank? Unbelievable. rotfl!
Only in America.

[Consort]

Got any soiled, edible panties?

[dighton]

Just a Tracy Emin wannabe.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Ah, so Hillary is trying to corner the Used Underwear Market, eh? Not surprising... ;0)

[Orual]

Just a Tracy Emin wannabe.

From the (ugh) site:

"This merchant is no longer participating in the affiliate program."

EMINent good sense.

[Lockbox]

Gives new meaning to freedom of expression.

[Chad Fairbanks]

I guess if the dems win in november, the next gov't program will be The Strategic Panty Reserve...

[cynicom]

We send only our best and brightest to college.

[belleoftheball414]

Ummm, who's panties were being sold?

[hole_n_one]

Vetter's Clemson page is inaccessible.........

1st link returned performing a Google search......... The Wonderful World of Christine

[Orangedog]

The maximum sentence she could face is a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in jail and two to three years of supervised release, U.S. District Judge G. Ross Anderson Jr. said.

I don't know what I find more disturbing....the selling of soiled panties and "other related items", or the fact that this is a FEDERAL OFFENSE! (Please note, I said "disturbing", not surprizing".)

[PJeffQ]

[vbmoneyspender]

A recent Clemson University graduate pleaded guilty Friday in federal court to using the U.S. Postal Service to mail "indecent and filthy things" that she sold through her Internet Web site.

Such a pity. If only she had used the Brown to ship the brown, she wouldn't be getting charged with using USPS for improper purposes.

[PJeffQ]

More details from http://www.thecarolinachannel.com/gs/news/andersonnewsroom/stories/andersonnewsroom-154574220020705-190731.html

Woman Faces Prison For Selling Dirty Underwear
Postal Inspectors Discover Web-Based Business
Posted: 8:39 p.m. EDT July 5, 2002
Updated: 8:15 a.m. EDT July 6, 2002

ANDERSON, S.C. -- A Central, S.C., woman pleaded guilty this week to federal charges of mailing soiled underwear and other items that she sold over the Internet. According to a release from South Carolina U.S. Attorney Strom Thumond Jr., 21-year-old Christine Vetter (pictured, left) admitted in federal court that she operated a Web site offering the items for sale.

Vetter said that, from November 2000 to March 2002, she sold and mailed thousands of dollars worth of soiled underwear and other used hygiene and sex-related items on the Web site while she was a student at Clemson University at the time.

The woman faces up to five years in prison or a $250,000 fine on charges of "mailing indecent and filthy substances."

The case was investigated by U.S. Postal Service agents. The investigators learned about Vetter's business when they spotted a letter addressed to her, labeled that it contained child pornography.

The envelope did not contain any child pornography, inspectors said. They later determined that that the sender of the letter was a disgruntled customer of Vetter's Web site.

Vetter's site is no longer operating.

Copyright 2002 by TheCarolinaChannel. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed

[PJeffQ]

Clemson takes down pages of students who have graduated or left pretty fast...

I'm pretty positive that wasn't the site in question in anyway...

[PJeffQ]

Actually, it was last modified July 6, 2002, that means the university was busy today or last night...

[concerned about politics]

FEDERAL OFFENSE!

Could lead to others joining the "fad" and creating a bio public health hazard.
Remember the thread about the guy who got castrated on a kitchen table? Would a perv pay for them? Could they be shipped UPS?
Body parts would be rotting in the warehouses!
The problem , I think, is the incrementalist steps the weirdos would take. Next thing you know, they'll be asking for special body parts rights!

[PJeffQ]

I think it was postal regs they got on her on, not the sales, but sending through the U.S. Mail...

[bigjoesaddle]

LOL

"YOU CALL THESE SOILED? THESE ARE MEARELY STAINED! I'LL GET HER! I WANNA SEE CHUNKS IN THESE PANTIES, DAB NABBIT! IF I WANTED STAINED PANTIES, I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR STAINED PANTIES!! BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, SHE THINKS A FEW STAINS WILL SATISFY ME??? I'M CALLING THE POLICE AND GET HER!

[PJeffQ]

Read the second story posted down further in the article...
the way a customer complained seemed to be a little more complicated than first glance...

[FormerLurker]

You'd think the government would have more important things to do than prosecuting an enterprising young college student over spoiled panties.

Don't they have to prove "criminal intent", or is that only reserved for the real criminals?

[PJeffQ]

She sent the stuff through the mail... so she "knowingly" sent it... ignorance of the law isn't an excuse apparently... she may get jail time the way the federal sentencing guidelines work...

[IronJack]

a disgruntled customer who had bought panties

Whazza matter? Too clean?

[FormerLurker]

She sent the stuff through the mail... so she "knowingly" sent it... ignorance of the law isn't an excuse apparently... she may get jail time the way the federal sentencing guidelines work...

How can you have criminal intent if you don't know the act is a crime? To me, having "criminal intent" hangs upon the fact a person knows an act to be illegal yet does it anyways.

And just when did this law come about, as one could say that MANY people violate this law routinely when they subscribe to Hustler or Penthouse. What about all of the mail orders related to "sex toys"? Do they use UPS to get around this little known "law"?

[Thumper1960]

Hey kids! College students, especially!

Don't send those soiled clothes home to Mom for her to wash for ya!

It's illegal!!!

Hasn't the Postal "Service" or the Feds anything better to do?

[AdA$tra]

Hasn't the Postal "Service" or the Feds anything better to do?

I worked for a guy who co-mingled escrow funds with operating funds. When the cycle stopped suddenly, he was holding a 300k check that belonged to USPS for a post office building. They had to know that us rank-and-file, peon employees had nothing to do with his check bouncing habit. It didn't stop them from grilling everyone, even the delivery driver, for several days. They visibly took a certain amount of personal pleasure from watching each of us squirm. Don't mess with the postal inspectors. To their credit the FBI agents were much nicer. They actually just asked for our help in figuring things out. I am sure you do not want to mess with them either though :-)

[SarahW]

There's always Fed X

[TC Rider]

I don't know what I find more disturbing....the selling of soiled panties and "other related items", or the fact that this is a FEDERAL OFFENSE! (Please note, I said "disturbing", not surprizing".)

I'm not happy about bacteria ridden, biological products, body fluids, secretions, etc bouncing through the mail.

If it was a medical lab sending unlabeled, unsecured specimens, biopsy samples, etc they'd be hung out to dry.

I applaud the Postal Inspectors. This may be a wake up call to others that want to mail their secretions, excretions and various other fluids.

[AF68]

You're right. Don't mess with postal inspectors. Most postal inspectors make the stereotypical machinegun-toting postal worker, teetering at the abyss of madness, look like a candidate for sainthood. They're a nasty lot.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

I thought I saw Janet Reno walking around Tallahassee with some used women's panties wrapped around her face. She will have to shop elsewhere now.

[general_re]

Is it important that she's a Clemson grad? Is soiled underwear a degree program at Clemson or something?

[Tijeras_Slim]

Just imagine what these pervs would pay for Ol' Crusty (the polyester superfund site) :)

[Bubba_Leroy]

Christine Vetter and a friend, courtesy of the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.

If she was selling her friends underwear, it would explain the disgruntled customer.

[Bubba_Leroy]

So are they going to go after all of these websites next?

[Slyfox]

...she could face is a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in jail and two to three years of supervised release

I wonder if they will force her to work in the prison laundry.

[Drew68]

They later determined that that the sender of the letter was a disgruntled customer of Vetter's Web site.

Well now that was a shitty thing to do.

[Senator Pardek]

True story - I used to work with a former stripper, and she had a similar webite. She would send out her paid for panties, sprinkled with the juice that comes out of a can of tuna (ya can't make this stuff up).

[Mulder]

While the federal government is snooping through the mail looking for panties, our borders remain wide open for the enemies of America to walk across.

That's okay though. Reichland security is working on a plan to make us all safe. They'll just take away more of our Rights.

[Mulder]

She would send out her paid for panties, sprinkled with the juice that comes out of a can of tuna (ya can't make this stuff up).

LOL! What a scam.

Did "customers" who paid extra get the juice from two cans of tuna?

[Drew68]

Christine Vetter and a friend, courtesy of the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.

While I want nothing to do with er dirty panties, she definately scores an 8 out of 10 on the "cuteness" factor.

I feel sorry for this girl. With as many of these "used panties for sale" sites that are out there, she probably had no idea what she was doing was illegal (yeah, I know, ignorance of the law, blah, blah, blah).

Now she is humiliated and has her name and face in the papers, her reputation tarnished and her standing as a law-abiding citizen ruined for what she had assumed would be a very personal and private transaction to raise some money.

I think the guy who ratted her out is a pencil-dicked asshole and I hope that the Laws of Karma strike him tenfold.

[PJeffQ]

Textiles is...