Posted on 07/08/2002 1:50:08 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
It? What form of murder, Howlin? Which members of the family, Howlin? A clue would be nice.
"The Thread"? What thread, Howlin? I'll be happy to go fetch it for you if it exists.
Your hatred of all things Bush is disgusting enough, but you went too far that time and I called you on it. The fact that you won't admit it now only proves how dishonest you are about the Bushes.
What time? Given that your standard response to any subject is "You hate Bush!", the possibilities are endless.
Your continued reference to a specific thread suggests you have something concrete in mind. What thread?
Since then, I've found (and used =) what I think is the same article of independentmind's on Rumsfeld and Carlyle but not the original thread.
It's possible it went down the memory hole if the original poster got nuked. I'll give it a try, though.
I was hoping we were going to get to dredge up the Gallup poll article, actually. Perhaps that will serve if the Carlyle article has indeed been destroyed.
I believe the title of the thread had something to do with Judicial Watch ... is that your recollection as well?
That wasn't the one I was thinking of. It had a LOT of replies though, that I remember.
Lemme see if I can explain this once and for all.
The Bush Family has been in politics a long time. Somebody around here has even offered that there are 32 presidents in the Bush family tree. (I haven't confirmed that but it's not so hard to believe.)
So, inevitably, connections to the Bush Family pop up when one is researching a particular issue or chain of events related somehow to government or politics.
I don't see how it's possible to get around perpetually mentioning members of the Bush family ... be it Prescott the grandfather, Prescott the head of the US/China Chamber of Commerce, Representative/CIA head/First Ambassador to China/Vice President/President Bush or Neil (silverado) Bush, Governor Jeb Bush of Florida or Governor/President George W. Bush.
Would you prefer I type B_sh so as to underscore the fact I couldn't care less about the Almighty Personalities but am merely forced to mention their name as part of whatever subject -- tainted blood, population control, marxist drug offensive, relations with China, etc. etc. -- I'm discussing?
What would please You, Howlin? Is it possible for you to pay attention primarily to the substance of the WORDS ON THE PAGE rather than your rank conjecture regarding my inner motives?
I find that a singularly leftist tack ... this Hate Crimes paranoia. Any chance you could get past the touchy-feely Oprah approach to this political forum dedicated to rooting out government corruption?
Because -- believe it or not -- government corruption DOES NOT begin and end with Bill Clinton. It's been ongoing a long time and promises only to continue ... particularly if we shout down every possible lead with some hue and cry over how anyone that voices the least criticism of the Administration or its actions is somehow full of hate for Bush, personally, or the nation generally.
THANKS. I was hoping you'd do that.
Well that was a very Askel-ish response if I've ever seen one ... =)
I will give it my best shot to find the thread so we might settle this. I'd really just as soon you hung up the Hate Crimes bit. I must turn in for now.
Regards, Howlin.
I don't know about Howlin, but it would please me if you would just go away. Very little would improve the forum so immeasurably as your leaving it.
I simply stated my opinion. You have yours. No one is counting votes and I have no idea what you're blathering about re "average freeper" since I've never used the phrase, consider us all "average," and do not differentiate -- except between the nice ones and the assholes.
32 Presidents???
And what tree did you fall out of
To: exodus
Please don't ping me anymore; your formatting drives me nuts.
# 664 posted on 7/8/02 10:53 PM Central by Howlin
To: exodus
do us all a favor and not answer each post to you. It is clear you don't get it.
# 663 posted on 7/8/02 10:51 PM Central by TLBSHOW
To: TLBSHOW
LOL.
# 667 posted on 7/8/02 10:54 PM Central by Howlin
TLBSHOW, Howlin, I fight in public, not behind the abuse button.
You know better, Howlin. We've been through this before.
Admin Moderator, more than a year ago I went through a running fight on two separate threads with Howlin and her friends, in which one of her supporters told me "stop talking to me," then responded to one of my posts, and then pushed the abuse button on me when I responded to her.
I was told by the Moderator of the first thread to "stop bothering people," even though I didn't initiate any attacks, but only defended myself.
When the same thing happened the next day on a different thread, I decided that I had had enough.
I called the Moderator and pointed out that I was being ambushed, just like the day before. I pointed out that I was on a public thread, where everybody was allowed to respond to each other, and that telling someone to "stop posting responses to me," and then responding to my posts constituted a personal attack.
Moreover, it was a personal attack Icould gey banned for, because the ambushers had already told me to stop talking to them.
I told the Moderator then, from now on I will respond to a request to "shut up" as more serious than name-calling, talking about my mother, or even pointing out that she still dressed me funny. From now on, the one thing I wouldn't accept would be "don't talk to me." I won't call you to a thread if you tell me not to, but if you're on the same thread I am, you do not tell me to shut up.
We are on a public forum, where as long as we follow the rules we are free to respond to any post, not just the ones directed at us personally. Anyone who attempts to prevent me voicing of my opinion will be pointed out to the Moderator.
During that fighting, Howlin told me that she wouldn't respond to me unless I stopped using the line breaks I use to satisfy my finely honed aesthetic sensibilities.
I honored her demand. I had forgotten that pet restriction of hers, but she plainly remembered, as demonstrated by her polite request today that I stop pinging her, again pointing out that my formating irritated her.
I apologized to Howlin, and told her that I would watch my formating in any reply I made to her.
I was polite. I was gracious. Even though her anti-formating request said "don't talk to me," I considered the fact that it was possible that my formating hurt her eyes, I decided to honor her wishes again, as I had done in the past. I didn't call the Moderator, despite my previous promise to myself and to her that I would.
While making sure that my reply posted, I noticed that TLBSHOW had told me to "shut up," also. Two in a row was too much. I called the Moderator, and pointed out to both the Moderator and TLBSHOW that we were on a public thread, and that he was free to leave the thread if he found my views unpalatable.
When I worked my way down the thread, I found that less than a minute after telling me to stop talking to her, Howlin had shown her support of TLBSHOW's attack of me. This was AFTER she told me to stop pinging her, and before I apologized to her.
What am I suposed to do? That is the same method that Howlin and her friends used on me in the past. Tell me "don't ping me,"and then ridicule me without mentioning my name, while leaving no doubt that I was the target of the attack. When I respond to the attack, they hit the abuse button, pointing out that they had asked me not to ping them, and I am the bad guy who deserves punishment.
Howlin has tricked longstanding members of FreeRepublic into being banned with that method, as others on this forun can verify.
Admin Moderator, I want to point out again that this is a public forum.
I have just as much license to talk as TLBSHOW or Howlin, even if I use line breaks every eight or nine words. I am not the only one to use HTML formating, but I am the only one Howlin ever attacked for it's use. I no longer give her the benefit of the doubt.
It's not my formating she has a problem with, she doesn't like me. Fine, that's her right. I didn't find this thread by clicking on her profile, as you can verify through the tracking system that installs FreeRepublic's cookies on my computer. If for any reason you need my permission to verify that, I hereby give my permission.
One last time, this is a public forum.
If you don't want to respond to me, don't.
If you don't want me to respond to your posts, remember if you don't post anything, I can't respond to it.
You are not required to participate.
Again .. GIVE IT UP
Tomorrow Mr. Bush is to speak about how to deal with corporate fraud and corrupt accounting practices. He should take this opportunity to call for reform not only in American business accounting practices but also in government accounting pratices.
Go read the GAO reports about HUD - Billions and billions of dollars are missing at HUD in FY 1998 and 1999. Go read the recent GAO reports on the lack of financial accountability in most federal agencies - more than a trillion dollars cannot be accounted for.
As always, the problem is hypocrisy: the pot calling the kettle black. How can anyone expect accountability of business corporations when our lawmakers, overseers and those who work in the government are not accountable for the billions of taxpayers dollars they receive?
There's that published writer logic again.
Was I nice or otherwise?
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