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Gun Crime Soars in United Kingdom Cities
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002310715,00.html ^ | July 8th 2002 | David Wooding

Posted on 07/08/2002 4:21:08 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender

GUN crime has soared by up to 50 per cent in violent inner-cities, a report reveals this week. Police gun squads are close to breaking point as armed gangs roam the streets in record numbers.

The alarming Home Office figures will blow apart Tony Blair’s pledge to beat street crime.

Worst blackspot is the West Midlands, which has seen a 50 per cent rise in offences in 12 months.

In London, gun crime leapt by 25 per cent and West Yorkshire saw an 11 per cent increase.

MPs fear Britain is now close to arming all police. Cops toting pistols and machine guns are already a common sight in parts of Manchester.

The Tories called for ministers to get a grip before the crisis worsens. They claim young hoodlums even use weapons as fashion accessories.

Shadow Home Secretary Oliver Letwin said: “The Government has issued a crime-fighting initiative a week but it has had no effect.”

The figures prove Manchester chief constable Alan Green’s claim that gun crime is at “intolerable levels.”

And the Police Federation’s spokesman for Scotland Yard’s elite SO19 firearms squad said his colleagues were “close to bursting.”

Figures on Friday will show ALL offences up six per cent in a year.

The figure could be THREE TIMES higher under a new system which will count crimes not investigated.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; firearms; gun; guncontrol; guns
MPs fear Britain is now close to arming all police. Cops toting pistols and machine guns are already a common sight in parts of Manchester.

The author of this article obviously hates firearms. I feel sorry for those people in the United Kingdom. Criminals know citizens have no handguns so they carry their handguns to get what they want out of unarmed people.

1 posted on 07/08/2002 4:21:08 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The author of this article obviously hates firearms.

One David Wooding, per byline. There's a Brit with that name in the Google photo collection, but he seems to be a scientific-research boffin and a rather nice fellow, not the nasty sort who penned that article, so I don't expect it's the right *David Wooding.*

Still, we might get some results if we'd offer a small bounty, as is sometimes done when rats get too thick in the henhouse, or when weasels get after kittens.

-archy-/-

2 posted on 07/08/2002 4:26:50 PM PDT by archy
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
The sheer ignorance of gun-grabbers is astounding. They think the answer is to arm more cops, who can't be everywhere.
They are afraid to abolish gun control for fear of being proven wrong, which of course they would be.
I read this somewhere: "When dealing with sheep-killing dogs, it does no good to place more restrictions on the sheep." I believe it applies in Great Britain, Australia, and Canada as well as here in the USA.

3 posted on 07/08/2002 4:29:58 PM PDT by Marauder
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
This just can't be true. Guns are illegal in the U.K., aren't they?

</sarcasm>

4 posted on 07/08/2002 4:30:17 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Like, duh, this is what happens when you disarm the CITIZENRY, only the CRIMINALS HAVE GUNS...
5 posted on 07/08/2002 4:35:04 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender; All
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6 posted on 07/08/2002 4:35:28 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: *bang_list
Bang
7 posted on 07/08/2002 4:36:42 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Typical leftist dupe thinking. Disarm the police and the honest citizens and everything will be hunky dory. Of course, the true leftists knew the results and eagerly awaited them so that the dupes would then demand even more government(them) control. Let Britain and Canada be a lesson to us.
8 posted on 07/08/2002 4:37:21 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Oh dear. The government needs to move decisively to crack down on this problem.

Maybe they should make handguns illegal.

9 posted on 07/08/2002 4:38:51 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I feel sorry for those people in the United Kingdom.

I don't. The UK and Europe generate more America bashing lies than the Middle East.

Fascism is just around the corner for the UK and France and they richly deserve it. This time, I hope the US doesn't lift a finger to save them from their stupidity.

11 posted on 07/08/2002 4:47:23 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
True crime figures set to reveal 40 per cent increase

By David Bamber, Home Affairs Correspondent (Filed: 07/07/2002)

The true level of crime is as much as 40 per cent higher than official figures show. Home Office statistics, drawn up by traditional methods, will this week show that 5.5 million crimes were committed in the 12 months to March 31, an increase of six per cent on the previous year. They will be dwarfed, however, by the next set of results, due to be published in October. New, more accurate methods of counting crime will reveal a huge leap in offences and show the extent of crime in Britain.

Surveys of crime levels by several police forces, obtained by The Telegraph, show that up to 6,000 more crimes are being committed every day than the current official national figures suggest.

Previously the police have recorded only incidents that were actively pursued. From April 1, however, all police forces were ordered by David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, to record every crime reported to them so that figures were more accurate. The early results have shocked Mr Blunkett, according to Home Office officials.

In the past, many minor crimes have been overlooked if there were a more serious incident to be dealt with: for instance, a theft following a murder would rarely be counted. Some crimes have also not been recorded because the victim withdraws a statement or complaint or because officers thought the offence too trivial to pursue.

The new figures obtained by The Telegraph show that in Devon and Cornwall there there were 23,894 offences committed in April and May this year - 40 per cent more than the old figures for the corresponding months in 2001.

In Humberside, total crime in April and May was up from 17,817 last year to 21,552 this year - a 21 per cent increase. Violent crime in Humberside was up 38.5 per cent, robberies more than doubled from 165 to 358, assaults rose from 1,595 to 2,497 (up 56 per cent) and vehicle crimes soared from 3,040 to 3,984 (up 31 per cent).

In Northumbria, which covers Newcastle upon Tyne, crime was up 18.5 per cent in April, compared with April last year, with violent assaults trebling.

In the Metropolitan Police area there was a monthly average of 88,000 crimes but in May this year it was 97,531, up more than 11 per cent, despite a high-profile attempt to curb street crime. The Prime Minister had promised to cut the growth in street crime by September.

13 posted on 07/08/2002 5:05:12 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
They claim young hoodlums even use weapons as fashion accessories.

When you get rid of a law-abiding gun culture, you get a lawless gun culture.

14 posted on 07/08/2002 6:12:29 PM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: zhabotinsky
The state of gun control in Britain can't be the orignal cause of the higher murder rate, because it was only like 15 years ago that Chicago (3 million) had about 20 times the murders of Britain (60 million maybe), and gun control was in place then.

By the way, I'm favorably disposed to the idea of allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons.
15 posted on 07/08/2002 6:30:28 PM PDT by happytobealive
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
That place is an island, and they can't control guns. What do the gun-control idiots in the US hope to do?
16 posted on 07/08/2002 6:34:49 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
GUN crime has soared by up to 50 per cent in violent inner-cities, a report reveals this week. Police gun squads are close to breaking point as armed gangs roam the streets in record numbers.

How can this be? Haven't they banned just about all guns, especially for city dwellers? Must be a mistake. Someone call Schumer, Fienstein, Clinton, and Boxer, et. al. and ask for clarification.</sarcasm.

Nah, don't bother, what you got wouldn't make any sense anyway.

17 posted on 07/08/2002 7:01:00 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Marauder
When dealing with sheep-killing dogs, it does no good to place more restrictions on the sheep."

Or the sheepdogs and shepherds.

18 posted on 07/08/2002 7:03:21 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: jbind
Not a great time to live in the UK.

Still nice and peaceful in the part where I live.

19 posted on 07/09/2002 12:07:50 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: 45Auto
The Prime Minister had promised to cut the growth in street crime by September.

Domestically, Blair is a limey version of klinton, which means the above sentence must be parsed. "Cut the growth" means that crime will still be increasing, but just not as fast as before. If crime increased 40% this year, but "only" 30% next year, it will be hailed as a great victory.

The writer of this article is upset that even more British police are being armed. The general sense of the article is that the problem is not that more innocents are suffering, but rather that the beloved unarmed police are being armed in greater numbers.

The article exresses no concern for the victims, and presents no suggestions as how to reduce violent crime. That's because gun control must be preserved and expanded at all costs, including the cost of innocent lives.

20 posted on 07/09/2002 12:53:45 PM PDT by 300winmag
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To: happytobealive
Chicago (3 million) had about 20 times the murders of Britain

15 years ago, Chicago still had more intrusive gun control than Britain. It may not have appeared that way on paper, but the Chicago government was, IMHO, far more intrusive and abusive in fighting against guns than the brits are even today.

21 posted on 07/09/2002 1:47:26 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
This is a good example of Gun Control in action.
22 posted on 07/09/2002 1:51:54 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Watching the situation in Britain, I feel like I am witnessing the slow disintegration of a great ship that is storm-tossed upon large rocks. Many of the crew are trapped on board and can't escape, it's falling apart and can't get free. A doomed ship, slowly, inevitably going under the waves, taking all aboard with it.


23 posted on 07/10/2002 7:13:06 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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