No, Alaska is not melting

Carry, you can ignore the $ impact of the Opecker Princes on the enviral and legislative processes since the 1970's all you want to. Eventually this $ impact will come out.

Here is where you are wrong. You can do all the talking you want, but WHEN YOU CHECK OUT THE MONEY ACTUALLY DONATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL NGOs ON THE PUBLIC RECORD, IT COMES FROM AMERICAN CHARITABLE FOUNDATIONS.

You can call my statements equivalent to your "Opecker Princes" assertions all you want. The documentation speaks otherwise.

None of these Opecker Princes are the evil Americans in Big Oil!

Show me their donations to environmental groups. I can show you the donations from American foundations in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Does that mean that Big Oil is innocent in this enviral mess. NO!

The oil companies themselves aren't the players here. That would be too obviously illegal. It's the 501c(3) tax exempt foundations who own stock in those companies that are pulling the strings.

I for one would love to have about 10% of the ad $'s paid just to the NY Slimes by the Saudis to push their PR Image as good guys. Since the days of the first oil crisis. Hell, I could do very well on 1%.

Chicken-feed.

You need to buy and read Undue Influence, by Ron Arnold. When you get that done read his other book, Trashing the Economy. Ron'll show you the money trail in an irrefutable fashion. I know it's hard to accept that the very American citizens most blessed by our system of free-enterprise would be this evilly destructive to that system, but you have to understand the truth. It's their stupid kids who've been brainwashed by the universities and don't know how to build wealth that are on the boards of these foundations. They are Communists, for the self-interested reasons I cited above.

Once you can accept that, then you'll be ready for my book.

Remember "Native Salmon," Dave?

. It comes as no surprise that the ownership systems the politically dominant propose are to be "collectivized" among the people, but administered by an agency dedicated to their interests.

You, sir, are good. Freep mail me the website again and I will order tomorrow.

Sorry, its late and I can't remember where I stashed it.

Nice quote Gramps, the more I read, the more you guys post, the madder I get.

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