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A Bush Hater's Poll
Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/10/2002 11:27:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is an unofficial quick and dirty presidential poll. Apparently, there is a good sized contingent on Free Republic that believes that President Bush is:

  1. Not conservative enough
  2. Not pro-life
  3. Is a gun-grabber
  4. Is a federal power-grabber
  5. Will appoint liberal judges
  6. Is a globalist
  7. Is in it just for oil
  8. Is too soft on immigration
  9. Is too soft (or too hard) on Israel
  10. Is a crook
  11. All of the above
  12. None of the above
  13. Other (you name it)

Please list the numbers that best match the reasons you don't like Bush (or state other reasons if not on the list) and state whether you believe that President Bush should be defeated even if it means installing a Democrat in the Whitehouse.

Conversely, if you believe President Bush should be re-elected, please state why.

Please state who you would like to see win the Presidency in 2004 and whether or not you believe he/she has a chance of winning.

Thanks,
Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, you forgot Bush did not cut capital gains enough in a Down Economy, when most people are losing money on their investments. Some people are really upset about this, though it does not makes sense to me. Do people pay income taxes on negative gains?
801 posted on 07/11/2002 4:55:43 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: OneidaM
You two wild animals (That is said with the utmost of affection BTW), are the exceptions to the "THEY" that I am referring to....."THEY" know who they are.

There are "THEY" factions on all sides, and I doubt any of them know.




802 posted on 07/11/2002 4:57:15 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth

Bush/JimRob 2004


803 posted on 07/11/2002 4:58:31 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Sabertooth
Agreed Sir Poet...agreed...I still owe you answer..but I am playing nurse mail to my poor old doggie tonite,,,so pray she makes it through the night till I get her to the vet?? And when this situation settles, I'll review your question and give you an answer...I am kinda undecided on the immigration issue, and I HAVE FOLLOWED your posts on it in the past...
804 posted on 07/11/2002 5:01:34 PM PDT by Neets
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To: ArneFufkin
They are no longer law breakers. They are legally resident aliens. Let's count them, log them, assure them and vet them.

Check out my #797.

Maybe it'll do a better job of phrasing the question I've been trying to ask you since last night.




805 posted on 07/11/2002 5:06:17 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Nothing like bringing another unrelated argument from thread to thread.

And we know you have never done that! LOL!

806 posted on 07/11/2002 5:15:16 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Since this thread deals with our support of who is in the Whitehouse, I still am interested if you can spit out a YES or NO answer to Howlins question. If you say this is not the thread, well, answer her question to you on the thread where it "belongs" (that she wrote to you a few hours ago) as I am quite interested in what a "true conservative" thinks. Thanks!
807 posted on 07/11/2002 5:17:32 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: carpio
I am a family oriented, patriotic,Christian small business person. I believe that American moral and constitutional principles are simple.

Then Bush is your man. What a great endorsement of his strong suits! Thanks! :o)

808 posted on 07/11/2002 5:17:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Sabertooth
Hey Sabertooth, tonight on the local FOX Broadcast channel is starting a new program called "Pulse" and tonight one of it's forst investigations will uncover a "Visa's for sale" scam being pulled off by some of our embassy employees. Have you heard about it? The show starts here on the right coast at 9:00PM EDT
809 posted on 07/11/2002 5:19:54 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MissAmericanPie
I think he's evil and I think he has an evil agenda,

Your complete lack of spiritual discernment is showing. Want to rethink that absurd statement after spending some time in prayer?

810 posted on 07/11/2002 5:20:50 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: B. A. Conservative
Hi again, I guess somehow this one may have passed you buy, so was wondering if you could answer my question in 756, which was a reply to your comment in 733

Thanks in advance, FRiend!

811 posted on 07/11/2002 5:21:28 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ohioWfan
Your complete lack of spiritual discernment is showing. Want to rethink that absurd statement after spending some time in prayer?

Could you send that to some other people, as well? That is a reminder we could all use.

812 posted on 07/11/2002 5:22:16 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: ohioWfan
Looks like I missed out on an eventful thread, My ISP went down last night just before JimRob posted this, Maybe I'm lucky...I got some sleep for a change :-)
813 posted on 07/11/2002 5:22:18 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: ChadGore
I think you have things exactly backwards..
814 posted on 07/11/2002 5:23:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: MJY1288
I heard about the sam and the show, but not that the scam was on the show. Unfortunately I'm gonna miss it, as I'm about to step out to work.

Thanks for the heads up. BTW, see my post at #797 on this thread.



815 posted on 07/11/2002 5:26:51 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Ok I will
816 posted on 07/11/2002 5:27:45 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Jim Robinson
My vote......a little weak on #8, but otherwise an incredibly strong President, who will be reelected in a landslide.

IMO, more Conservative goals will be achieved in his 8 years of Presidency than in any other previous presidency, because he is a patient man who is willing to move incrementally.

817 posted on 07/11/2002 5:28:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Jim Robinson
Sure......do you want to give me some names? :o)

Actually, I need to remind myself that the most powerful thing I can do for him is to pray for wisdom and discernment in his decision making. I believe those prayers are being answered.

818 posted on 07/11/2002 5:34:28 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: MJY1288
I just got here too.........interesting thread, to say the least!
819 posted on 07/11/2002 5:35:29 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Sabertooth
I can't sya that I disagree with you on your position on our rediculous immigration policies, I don't agree with allowing illegals to butt in front of aliens who are trying to come here legally, It's a travesty in my opinion. I also know that all the complaining in the world here at FR will not fix it. I voice my complaints to a fellow named Roscoe Bartlett, he's my Congressman.

I don't blame President Bush for the situation we are in, I do find it troubling that it seems he isn't making much of an attempt to change our policies but I will give him some slack considering he has been in office for all of 17 months. BTW did you here Colin Powell canned an entrenched liberal in the State Department that was in charge og the "Visa Express" program?

820 posted on 07/11/2002 5:36:10 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Sabertooth
My goodness, I should proof read a little more often :-)
821 posted on 07/11/2002 5:42:37 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Jim Robinson
#8 for me.

I just drove to the corner of Wilcest and US59 (Houston) to take a picture of a sign that had been posted by the local merchants. The sign wasn’t there; I asked the closest proprietor what happened to it. He informed me that, “The Mexicans stole the sign and partially knocked down the pole.”

The sign said that the merchant’s parking lot was not a rally point for illegal aliens to return to Mexico or to meet upon their arrival. The sign referenced local statues and codes that I cannot remember ergo the attempt to photograph the sign.

This sign should have been unnecessary, and would be if the INS was doing their job.

Finally, I am so sick of PC crap. These people were born in Mexico. They are Mexicans. They are NOT Hispanic or Chicano they are Mexicans. I have been to Mexico and they call themselves Mexicans just like we call ourselves Americans. The folks in Mexico do not consider this a derogatory term. The poser, wannabes here in America are the ones who do not like the term.

I am not a racist. I am a realist that has lived with the invasion and a previous post is correct that many do not want to be American. They want to live in North Mexico.


822 posted on 07/11/2002 5:45:01 PM PDT by Eaker
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To: Eaker

Typical.. They just cover their ears and scream "Shut UP! Shut UP!

823 posted on 07/11/2002 6:06:43 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jim Robinson
I'll just ditto what Rush said on his program today about GWB. That his biggest problem is ceding too much on every issue to the Democrats without offering any kind of vision or agenda of his own. That GWB is not advancing the conservative cause with this ridiculous strategy(?) of constantly playing it on the defensive instead of the offensive. Rush pointed out that Bush has missed opportunities to use the power of the veto a la Reagan. Good point, Rush. It is ridiculous that Bush can't turn around and use the razor-thin margins that the Bushies whine about to his (and our) advantage.

We can argue forever about why GWB is using such poor strategy and whether or not it is deliberate on his part. But it is absolutely inarguable that he is playing it poorly.

824 posted on 07/11/2002 6:19:07 PM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: Quicksilver
Thank God; Our Beloved FRaternal Republic's President Bush -- and you!
825 posted on 07/11/2002 6:19:53 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: FreeLibertarian
He should be defeated By who?
826 posted on 07/11/2002 6:25:48 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: Wordee
Hmmmmm. Are you THINKING about ATTACKING President Bush?

Are you insane?

827 posted on 07/11/2002 6:25:53 PM PDT by thepitts
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To: Sabertooth
Bruddah, if ain't answered in 754, I have no answer!!!!
828 posted on 07/11/2002 6:27:11 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Jim Robinson
Alan Keyes is another person whom I could support if he ran for president.
829 posted on 07/11/2002 6:28:13 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Miss Marple; Jim Robinson
Gee, a newbie shows up1 What a suprise!

Why thank you for the not so warm welcome. I think. Is my opinion invalid because I registered today?

You did not comment on what I said. Do you disagree with me? I would be interested in any critique you have concerning my comments

Via con Dios.

830 posted on 07/11/2002 6:38:57 PM PDT by noRinoforme
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To: Jim Robinson; Texasforever; ohioWfan; rintense; Howlin; kayak; swheats
1. Not conservative enough I would like to see him take a stand more often. But I realize he didn't exactly arrive in office with a mandate and he campaigned as a Moderate and that = Compromise and considering he is the President of all the people, not just me, I can live with his decisions so far.

2. Not pro-life Buffalo Dung, He is the most "Pro Life" President since Roe-v-Wade became law

3. Is a gun-grabber Horse Hockey

4. Is a federal power-grabber His proposals have been for states rights

5. Will appoint liberal judges When Pigs fly

6. Is a globalist Just more slander from the Nattering Nabobs

7. Is in it just for oil Leftist Drivel

8. Is too soft on immigration So far he is the first President in my life to propose and enact restrictions, and yet nobody gives him credit. The all or nothing crowd wants him "necklaced" for "supposedly" thinking of amnesty (A NYT's divide and Conquer plot)

9 Is too soft (or too hard) on Israel As Israel has stated! they almost made him an honorary member of the Lachoud(sp)? Party because of his Moral clarity on his willingness to tell it like it is on the Palestinian situation

10. Is a crook Probably the most trustworthy President in decades

11. All of the above Place the crackpipe on the desk and slowly back away from the keyboard

12. None of the above He needs improvement on #8 but he inherited the mess

13. Other (you name it) Back in December of 2000, this country almost become a Bananna Republic when Al (count-em-again) Gore attempted to steal the presidential election, with the help of his Lawyers and his eneblers in the Press. With the country divided as it was just 18 moths ago. I think we have witnessed the most rapid and dramatic change in public opinion of a President in our nations history.

When George W. Bush took the oath of office, not too many people thought he would be much, they said he could forget about his "Huge" tax cut, they said he wouldn't be respected on the world stage, they said he wouldn't be able to get us out of the ABM treaty without another arms race with Russia. They said he didn't have much of a personality and of coarse they told us how stupid he was. Not only has he been "misunderestimated" but he has outsmarted them at every turn. In a short 17 months he has done more to change the direction of this country than Reagan did his first 5 years. Not to mention he's one helluvagood wartime President.

I will now slip into my Nomex Jammies for the scorching I'm gonna recieve from the unnapeasables and malcontents :-)

831 posted on 07/11/2002 6:39:17 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
This thread has served its purpose. It was a challenge for the dump Bush crowd to give a viable alternative beyond let the "democrats have it". Once again the challenge was not met. It proves that there are many that can state a problem but few that can pose a solution.
832 posted on 07/11/2002 6:48:08 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Sabertooth
I apologize for not addressing your serious inquiry which I belive was; "if we give amnesty to the thugs, scofflaws and disreputable arrogants ... what can be said to those who queued up and played by the rules waiting for legal entry?

C'mon IN!!! Tooth, this isn't a moral dilemma ... it's a political reality. They're here. They're staying as long as they can eat, breathe, pray and guard their family. So, folks in the INS queue .... expidited approval is my order. If there is lingering resentment ... life is a bitch sometimes and tell it to gals on "The View'.

833 posted on 07/11/2002 6:51:49 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever
It proves that there are many that can state a problem but few that can pose a solution.

Surely you're not arguing the lack of a solution indicates no problem?

Other solution approaches have been proposed, assuming a large part of the problem is party leadership, rather than oval office.

834 posted on 07/11/2002 6:54:30 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: Starwind
Solution = Problem

835 posted on 07/11/2002 6:57:23 PM PDT by ned
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To: Texasforever
I could have predicted that if I had an ISP last night. I've glanced over some of the more rabid attacks and all I can say is there are some lonely miserable people in this world. Who could live with people who carry around that much baggage? If I were a psychologist I would hate to take on the case log here on FR :-)
836 posted on 07/11/2002 6:58:19 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Starwind
Other solution approaches have been proposed,

Fair enough. Post what you feel is a serious solution proposal and we can discuss it. Make sure you flag the poster that put it forward. Thanks.

837 posted on 07/11/2002 7:05:17 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
The "lesser evil" argument does not wash with me.

I can pick and choose between working for Republicans, or on Texas textbook issues, property rights, and gun rights.

Electing Republicans in November does not even make the cut.....they have abandoned their Conservative base...even though my spouse and I made over 800 phone bank calls in Florida during the first week of November 2000.

Live and learn.....

838 posted on 07/11/2002 7:08:39 PM PDT by Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson
President G.W. Bush wants to preserve America. I trust him. He doesn't see any American as the enemy. He goes beyond party squabblins by encouraging all Americans to fight the enemy. He has my vote and support. (Every person I am in contact with is gently pursuaded to join his crusade.)
839 posted on 07/11/2002 7:09:03 PM PDT by shetlan
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To: MJY1288
I agree with you on all counts.

What I find unfortunate is the fact that most stands or decisions Bush makes for conservative issues are not broadcast on the news media. Every issue that could make him appear doubleminded or caving to the Dems is constantly shown nightly as though it were real news.

It is so frustrating that the majority of my information I have come to find on the internet and Freerepublic.

For all of the third party folks, I can't understand how they could expect any different behaviour when it's most of the players now changing their party affiliation just to get elected. Doesn't mean their politics have changed just that they're willing to do whatever means necessary to accomplish their agenda or timetable.

President Bush is the best thing that America has for this time. You bet I'll vote for him again. Look at the alternatives.
840 posted on 07/11/2002 7:09:54 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Don Myers; Keyes For President; rdf; rdavis84; Scholastic; kristinn
"Alan Keyes is another person whom I could support if he ran for president."

Ditto on that one.

841 posted on 07/11/2002 7:10:24 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Since this thread deals with our support of who is in the Whitehouse, I still am interested if you can spit out a YES or NO answer to Howlins question. If you say this is not the thread, well, answer her question to you on the thread where it "belongs" (that she wrote to you a few hours ago) as I am quite interested in what a "true conservative" thinks. Thanks!"

I am not going to answer that inappropriate question on this thread or any thread. If I do not wish to comment on an issue, I shouldn't have to.

Stop harrassing me.

842 posted on 07/11/2002 7:12:17 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Texasforever; B. A. Conservative
Fair enough. Post what you feel is a serious solution proposal and we can discuss it. Make sure you flag the poster that put it forward.

I posted some thoughts on another thread here,

I thought B. A. Conservative's thread MY VOTE IS FOR SALE was constructive and likewise directed at the party.

843 posted on 07/11/2002 7:14:23 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: ned
Ned, the FR "Here's the Problem" threads mirror Ross Perot's fraud to every annoying, cynical and insincere ploy.

If I started a thread "County Nazis Steal My Land and Life" .... and I laid out a sad tale of my County assessor asking me to move my LARGE fishing shack 25 feet back from the shorelinr so no domicile issues and their accompanying tax assssments would occur. I caused a ruckus, the police and sherrifs showed up, I'm surprised the British military didn't try to house themselves in my quarters! It was a hair-trigger riot waiting to happen ... well, if I could get my dog to wake up. I made all this up of course but ....

You know what solution based ned and Texasforever would advise "Move the shack Back as asked dumbshit" LOL.

So, I'm not under the iron fist of Pol Pot? Can you prove that with a link? LOL Weird Science!!!

844 posted on 07/11/2002 7:15:39 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Starwind
Thanks I am going to break your comments down a bit so we can actually focus. Give me some time to do that.
845 posted on 07/11/2002 7:19:46 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: MJY1288
8. Is too soft on immigration So far he is the first President in my life to propose and enact restrictions, and yet nobody gives him credit. The all or nothing crowd wants him "necklaced" for "supposedly" thinking of amnesty (A NYT's divide and Conquer plot)

Please post links to his proposed and enacted restrictions.

846 posted on 07/11/2002 7:27:12 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: ArneFufkin
You can always count on me for an answer!! Let's see if we can simplify all of this:

Solution = Problem = Reality

I hope that helps!! LOL

847 posted on 07/11/2002 7:29:05 PM PDT by ned
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To: Jim Robinson
I am going to report you the side bar moderator for this vanity post.

What you want another fifty bucks or you going to keep this going?

848 posted on 07/11/2002 7:29:50 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: ned
I love math with no cipherin' or guzintas!
849 posted on 07/11/2002 7:31:31 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Eaker
This sign should have been unnecessary, and would be if the INS was doing their job.

Could you elaborate. Who's not doing their job? The troops on the ground or the generals at HQ?

850 posted on 07/11/2002 7:31:33 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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