'The Jeb Bush Nobody Knows' - Part 18: Jeb habla Espanol: "FL, Nuestra Casa" (See new TV ad here!)

various, including: NationalJournal.com ^ | July 13, 2002 | summer and others

[RoseofTexas]

B.S.!! The reason a lot of them vote DEMONcRAT is because the RATS were the first one to reach out to them. Since than they have been playing mind games with them. Unfortunately, the republicans dropped the ball many years ago. BUT, times are changing, and an increasing amount of Hispanic are becoming educated and smarter. Let's not past judgment here, instead let's go out and bring those lost sheep home to the party who is willing to give them A SHARE of America! The opportunities the Rats have given them, like the blacks, are the chains of bondage to govt. hand outs! If we don't win these voting block we will never again see a Republican in WH. So let's stop the bickering and join together for the good of our country, our children and grandchildren's future in America!

[RICK77]

**QUOTE: I meant the whole of the US-Hispanic "Per the US-Census 2000" And, I am talking about FL - so, maybe that is one reason we see things differently.**

> Okay maybe thats why we see things differently. But Even in Florida summer, the vast majority of Hispanics Speak English, the Significant-Majority are US-Born, so that could be a reason !!

**QUOTE: BTW, here in FL, there are also many WEALTHY Hispanics - not every Hispanic is a maid or working as a migrant work. Some are starting new businesses, buying up property and expanding businesses.**

> Summer ! Summer ! Summer ! When did I say every Hispanic is a maid and a Migrant Worker, I said Most **Mexicans** (NOT ALL HISPANICS) are migrant workers, and/or do Menial Jobs Etc... I know the Bulk of the Hispanics in the
Mid-West/North/East Coast AND FLORIDA, tend to integrate Socio-Economically quicker into America than Mexicans in the Left Coast. Also I know that in Florida (South-Eastern) in particular, there is good Businesses opened by Hispanics,
and many moore Wealthy Hispanics, but those wealthy Hispanics tend to Intermarry at High rates (weird isn't it).
I also agree Florida has more Hispanic Millionares than any other state in the Nation (Over 80% I heard).
> Can I ask you, are you Cuban American or PR ? I'm just wondering what Hispanic Sub-Group come under.
> Also I have been many times to Florida and I agree Hispanics (immigrants and US-Born) as group are well integrated into Florida and America, part of the reason, is Florida is a Conservative State (for the most part _Yahoo to that), and many of the Hispanics that go to Florida are fairly well educated and less ignorant, unlike the average Mexican Immigrant who would be lucky to have completed Junior High School (Grade 9), 65% lack a HS-Diploma and the vast majority of that have no more than Grade 8 or 9.


**QUOTE: I think you may make some valid points, but, I am also making some valid points too, especially concerning Hispanics in the schools.**

> Summer thanks ! I know I make some valid points. I may not be Hispanic but I have a fairly good knowledge of Hispanic (Immigrant & US-Born) related issues
(in part due being married to a Mex-Am). "Please" tell me specifically what *Valid Points* you think i've made !
Some of Your key points, include Wealthy Hispanics in Florida, that I can agree with, and have no issues with, though their are 2.4 Million Hispanics, in FLD & 11.5 Million in CA, 80% of the Nations Hispanic Millionares, live in Florida, and of that 60% live in the South-Eastren Florida Area. Also I agree that a sizable majority of the Largest Hispanic Orgs & Corporations are Based in Florida and the East Coast.

**QUOTE: And, I don't think Gov. Bush is speaking down to these people in any way -- he is connecting with them, through a common language many of them do speak here in FL. He is promoting America to them. Nothing wrong with that. Very much like what Reagan did, IMO.**

> Yeah But Summer ! Reagan Reached Out to Hispanics Purely as FELLOW AMERICANS. Jeb, George & the RATS, are targeting Hispanics (PARTICULARLY "IMMIGRANT" HISPANICS), as Hispanics (a seperate Ethnic Group) *NOT* Fellow Americans THATS the DIFFERENCE. When Immigrant Hispanics make up only 1 in 3 of the Hispanic Based Population, even in Florida, over 2 in 3 Hispanics-Ams are US-Born.
> Also you stated "he is connecting with them, through a common language many of them do speak here in FL" - However Spanish is not "Hispanics/Hisp-Ams" Common Langauge. I've been to Florida, and much of the youth and the vast majority of US-Born Hispanics speak little or no SPanish, they are English Dominant. To say its the Common Language of Immigrant Hispanics - OKAY - Fair Poitn, point take. However, of the 36 Million Hispanics in the USA.
17 Million Speak Spanish as their 1st or Dominant Language. The remaining 19 Million are English Dominant/Only. Its sad to say but your youth (particularly US-Born) aren't retaining their Spanish, Worse in the East Coast/Mid-West than the Left Coast.

> FINALLY - Your Point - About the Declaration of independence Okay point taken, I may have sounded a bit ignorant "sorry" ! But our original Discussion, was not really about Education. Unlike the Left Coast, thankfully Florida and the East Coast still teach the "Classics" to School Kids which includes our fine American History/Culture. Unfortunately here Cali and the S/west Public Schools are Sh*t and becoming increasingly Sh*ttier, thats why my kids go Private School and the Private School Enrollement in the Left Coast is Increasing, every year exponentially.

Awaiting your response...

Thanks !!!!!

[summer]

Rose, Any comment you can offer re post #142? I am just missing the boat here on why Rick is upset about Gov. Bush's successful communiation with non-Cuban Hispanic FL voters. Thanks. :)

[summer]

And, thanks for your reply #141!!!! I just now saw it! :)

[summer]

Rick, All I can say is maybe this woman can give you an answer to all your questions, as for some reason -- she liked the idea behind Gov. Bush's Spanish tv commerical without even seeing it:

Maria Padilla can be reached at 407-420-5162 or mpadilla@orlandosentinel.com.

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The Orlando Sentinel

COMMENTARY


María T. Padilla

Spicy TV fare flavors search for Bush's ad

by Maria T. Padilla

Published July 10, 2002

Curious about Gov. Jeb Bush's Spanish-language TV message to a cross-section of Hispanic voters, I alternated between Univision and Telemundo, the two networks over which Bush's $250,000 campaign is airing.

I wondered if Bush would make an appearance at 4 p.m. on Univision, in which case he would be sandwiched between El Gordo y la Flaca or The Fat Man and the Skinny Woman. The fat man spends a lot of time in a hot tub, where his guests, usually a beauty of the week, join him. The skinny woman keeps things from getting too risqué.

But I didn't see the governor.

Another day I switched over to Al Rojo Vivo or Red Hot, an evening news show on Telemundo starring the Puerto Rico-born Maria Celeste Ararrás, who just landed a lucrative contract to do this show about two-headed animals and other surreal tales.

Still, no Bush.

I moved to a later time slot and caught Cristina. The queen of Spanish-language talk shows was wearing a tight-fitting black bunny suit with ears -- not a good idea for Cuban-born Cristina, who is well into her middle years. Her guests didn't fare better.

The women were wearing French maid costumes and were asked to crawl on all fours with a strawberry in their mouths, dip it in chocolate and return to where their mates sat. His job was to retrieve the strawberry from her mouth.

Surely, Bush would not appear here.

It's on to the novelas or soap operas, which I grew up watching with my mother. The competition is much stiffer now.

There's Pedro El Escamoso, about a gigolo with a gold tooth; and El Clon, about love prohibited set in the Middle East with Brazilian actors who are dubbed in Spanish.

It was getting weird waiting for Jeb's ad, and that's too bad. For the Orlando Sentinel story about the commercial indicated that a light bulb had gone off in Jeb's head.

Just like Spanish-language TV is not the same as American television, all of Florida's Hispanics are not the same.

They do not wish to be addressed as if they were. Certainly not Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Colombians, Dominicans, or any other group.

Jeb's commercial finally acknowledges the differences, depicting the flags of various Hispanic groups, including Puerto Rico.

Now, for some time the Bush family has claimed a special relationship with a faction of Puerto Rico's pro-statehood party -- although it's hard to figure out exactly what the Bushes have done for Puerto Rico statehood.

Meanwhile, just like the ever-changing cast of characters in a novela, Central Florida also is filling up with Puerto Ricans who were born on the mainland; they have roots in the Democratic Party. What to do?

The Bush family began to see the light during the 2000 presidential campaign.

In an interview back then, Jeb's son, George P. Bush, grasped that Central Florida is dominated by Puerto Ricans. BUT they all don't come from the island, and they're all not Republicans, either.

Gov. Bush must have taken this to data to heart. Two years later, he is addressing Hispanics in a different way than I recall from his 1998 campaign.

Which means it just might be worth wading through hours of Spanish-language TV to see this commercial.

Maria Padilla can be reached at 407-420-5162 or mpadilla@orlandosentinel.com.

[RICK77]

Hi Both

Thanks for your replies. Much appreciated !

[summer]

My pleasure, and I do hope you write to that columnist, as she seems to take an opposing view on this matter from you -- and, perhaps she can share it with you. :)

[summer]

Hi Illbay, I thought you might be interested in this news:

Election 2002: Bush gets endorsement from Puerto Rican mayors
[GOP and Dem leaders back Jeb!] :)

[summer]

Re "Jeb's Secret Strength - Latinos" from Newsmax. Sounds like Newsmax is catching up with the news here on FR! :)

[summer]

RE: Jeb's secret strength: Latinos (Newsmax, Oct 2002)

[M Kehoe]

Buenos dias mi amiga. Aqui es un bumpo para te.

5.56mm

[summer]

Gracias!

[summer]

[Translation of post #151: Hello my friend. Here is a bump for you.]

[summer]

Actually, "Buenos dias" = Good day

[windchime]

Aqui es un bumpo para te.

Confession: I copied your translation above.:) The last time I tried to write Spanish was in college (long ago).

[SevenofNine]

OH Summer

NO Way Jeb spanish is perfect Al Gore be spitting out nails because I think his spanish is not as good as Jeb is

Remember Jeb work down in Mexico for while so perhaps he pick up there

Once you been in country for long time you pick up language and culture

[summer]

Es la verdad. :)

[summer]

No problemo. :)

[summer]

Please forgive my indulgence here, as I am pinging my JEB! list to all 25 threads JUST THIS ONE TIME, on this ONE day so close to the end of Campaign 2002.

I did so in the hope you will simply bump your FAVORITE thread!

I read somewhere that positive news about a candidate at the very last minute will sway an undecided voter to vote for that candidate.

Consequently, this is a one-time, last minute, push -- so please do bump a thread.

Who knows, your bump may be the one that an undecided lurker sees! And, every vote does count.

Thanks for your help here! :)

[kinganamort]

ELECTION BUMP
GO JEB

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