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Posted on 07/13/2002 3:25:04 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: one_particular_harbour; IronJack; Bigun; antivenom
I'm disappointed. I thought that of all the people that I pinged that you would start some discussion! Sighhhhhhh. The whole concept of Bill of Attainder is upsetting because I don't really understand it. On one hand it sounds protective of the citizen and the rights guarented under the Constitution and then it also sounds sinister and overpowering. Is this something that we should be wary of and how it is used?
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I am connecting this with the Ninth and Tenth Amendments also the 16th?
To: Luis Gonzalez; dixie sass
You got the Cliff notes on this? That was my question. I was gonna ask how many days we had to "peruse and comment!"
To: Taxman
I went back to the article and found that apparently many references to Bill of Attaindment, but nothing specific in the USC.
I am trying to learn more about this. I want to find out how it affects our rights as American Citizens in everday life.
To: PistolPaknMama
Gazillion days!!!!
This is not a test, I repeat, this is not a test, lol. I am trying to understand the whole concept.
To: All
I guess that the best thing for me to do is go back and start listing the questions that I have regarding this.
To: Vandon; kjenerette
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I am connecting this with the Ninth and Tenth Amendments also the 16th? Maybe also the 14th?
If, from what I understand, we are granted certain inalienable rights and these rights are supposed to be protected by the government - no ifs, ands or buts allowed -then how can the Bill of Attaninder be used against the citizenery? That doesn't make sense.
To: dixie sass
I'm disappointed. Tarnation, woman! You figure us all for speed readers!?
This post has most of us consulting our constitution and legal dictionaries.....good one.
Aim small, miss small.
To: IronJack
From what I understand in the article, IJ, that isn't the only thing they are used for.
"...The only statement in the U.S.C. that reflects most of the original intention of the mandates is from Cummings v. Missouri (1867). It states, "A bill of attainder, is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without judicial trial and includes any legislative act which takes away the life, liberty or property of a particular named or easily ascertainable person or group of persons because the legislature thinks them guilty of conduct which deserves punishment."..." What constitutes punishment though - consfication of land, a slap on the wrist, blockading, liens, fines... what? It is not clear at all.
To: SC Swamp Fox
lol, sorry.
To: IronJack
See post 13#
Comment #31 Removed by Moderator
To: Vandon; kjenerette; IronJack
BILL OF ATTAINDER - An act of the legislature by which one or more persons are declared to be attainted, and their property confiscated. The Constitution of the United States declares that no state shall pass any bill of attainder.
During the revolutionary war bills of attainder and ex post facto acts of confiscation were passed to a wide extent. The evils resulting from them, in times of more cool reflection, were discovered to have far outweighed any imagined good.
I found this definition in the 'lectric lexicon.
To: dixie sass
Bump for later.
To: dixie sass
Thanks, I look forward to checking it out.
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07/14/2002 3:17:06 PM PDT
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AuntB
To: AuntB
Welcome
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